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Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Stafford is only 34. He can easily have another 3 to 4 peak years. I wouldn't call a 5 year plan a short term plan.

Fair point... just depends on how well he ages. Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers have aged well. Matt Ryan has declined at Age 36.

Reports are saying though that the Rams are looking to extend Stafford, who is only signed through 2022. That's going to be a huge contract for the next few years. They'll be competitive with him at QB, but their cap should be maxed out in the next few years and they haven't had a first round pick since 2016. I could certainly see them falling off in the same way the Seahawks did---after Russell Wilson signed his contract, the Seahawks were always a playoff team, but their rosters never felt very balanced and were not the world-wreckers we saw them in 2012-2014.

I'm very curious how the Rams look next year.

Woods coming off ACL
OBJ UFA and likely won't be ready to play with his ACL coming so late in the season
Whitworth retiring
Donald - I highly doubt he actually retires considering he has a chance to break the all time sack record but he brought it up so either he's looking for a new deal or it's on his mind. If he retires it's a HUGE HUGE loss for them.
Austin Corbett and Brian Allen - starting C and RG both UFA
Von Miller UFA
Darious Williams UFA

Their first pick in the draft unless they make a trade will be a 3rd round comp pick, then a 4th round comp pick.

Maybe they use all their comp picks and find draft gems and keep it going but that's a tough ask. Obviously we're not in much better draft pick shape but we should get some exta ammo from Jimmy trade. We also are in better cap shape once the Jimmy deal is done and having Trey on his rookie deal gives us a lot more wiggle room in FA.

As for Stafford he's still "young" in QB age but that guy has taken a beating over the years. We'll see his longevity.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
* Chocked in Super Bowl as OC with a big lead.

* Chocked in Super Bowl with a lead.

* Chocked in the NFCCG with a lead.

Not a big game coach. If you are up in big games he routinely finds ways to lose.

Facts are facts guys.

Interesting facts you have there
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
* Chocked in Super Bowl as OC with a big lead.

* Chocked in Super Bowl with a lead.

* Chocked in the NFCCG with a lead.

Not a big game coach. If you are up in big games he routinely finds ways to lose.

Facts are facts guys.

Interesting facts you have there

Those are facts.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
* Chocked in Super Bowl as OC with a big lead.

* Chocked in Super Bowl with a lead.

* Chocked in the NFCCG with a lead.

Not a big game coach. If you are up in big games he routinely finds ways to lose.

Facts are facts guys.

Interesting facts you have there

Those are facts.

Kyle Shanahan's team lost in those games. Those are facts.

Saying Kyle Shanahan chocked in those games is a stupid opinion.

Learn the difference.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
* Chocked in Super Bowl as OC with a big lead.

* Chocked in Super Bowl with a lead.

* Chocked in the NFCCG with a lead.

Not a big game coach. If you are up in big games he routinely finds ways to lose.

Facts are facts guys.

Interesting facts you have there

A guy is a choke artist or failure.... until he isn't.
Steve Young could never win the Super Bowl.... until he did. Stafford was a choke artist for much of his career, until he won it a few days ago. Andy Reid was a very good NFL coach for a long time, until he did.

Of course, on the flip side, Marty Schottenheimer was a very good coach for a very long time, but the farthest he could ever get was AFCCG losses on the Browns and Chiefs. Jim Kelly and the Bills, Marino and the Dolphins, Rivers and the Chargers, could never win it.

It's just a choice on whether you want to believe in a guy. I think it's too early to really know if Shanahan is going to be in the former or latter category.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
* Chocked in Super Bowl as OC with a big lead.

* Chocked in Super Bowl with a lead.

* Chocked in the NFCCG with a lead.

Not a big game coach. If you are up in big games he routinely finds ways to lose.

Facts are facts guys.

I agree. Until he wins the big game these collapses will continue to haunt him and the team. He's 0-3 in these situations and makes different mistakes each time.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
* Chocked in Super Bowl as OC with a big lead.

* Chocked in Super Bowl with a lead.

* Chocked in the NFCCG with a lead.

Not a big game coach. If you are up in big games he routinely finds ways to lose.

Facts are facts guys.

Interesting facts you have there

Those are facts.

Kyle Shanahan's team lost in those games. Those are facts.

Saying Kyle Shanahan chocked in those games is a stupid opinion.

Learn the difference.

Eh... I'm an ardent Shanahan supporter, but we can't just dismiss those losses because of "it's a team game". He shoulders some of the responsibility (and he admits to it in his press conferences).

As OC for the Falcons, as HC for us... he makes wide-scale decisions that yes... the players have to execute... but he's the one that ultimately decides to go for it , or not go for it. He's the one that says, let's run vs. let's pass.
I don't know who needs to hear this but it's "Choked" not "Chocked"
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
* Chocked in Super Bowl as OC with a big lead.

* Chocked in Super Bowl with a lead.

* Chocked in the NFCCG with a lead.

Not a big game coach. If you are up in big games he routinely finds ways to lose.

Facts are facts guys.

Interesting facts you have there

A guy is a choke artist or failure.... until he isn't.
Steve Young could never win the Super Bowl.... until he did. Stafford was a choke artist for much of his career, until he won it a few days ago. Andy Reid was a very good NFL coach for a long time, until he did.

Of course, on the flip side, Marty Schottenheimer was a very good coach for a very long time, but the farthest he could ever get was AFCCG losses on the Browns and Chiefs. Jim Kelly and the Bills, Marino and the Dolphins, Rivers and the Chargers, could never win it.

It's just a choice on whether you want to believe in a guy. I think it's too early to really know if Shanahan is going to be in the former or latter category.

Yes. And John Elway, and Bill Cowher, and so many more.
Originally posted by Wubbie:
A guy is a choke artist or failure.... until he isn't.
Steve Young could never win the Super Bowl.... until he did. Stafford was a choke artist for much of his career, until he won it a few days ago. Andy Reid was a very good NFL coach for a long time, until he did.

Of course, on the flip side, Marty Schottenheimer was a very good coach for a very long time, but the farthest he could ever get was AFCCG losses on the Browns and Chiefs. Jim Kelly and the Bills, Marino and the Dolphins, Rivers and the Chargers, could never win it.

It's just a choice on whether you want to believe in a guy. I think it's too early to really know if Shanahan is going to be in the former or latter category.

As of now he's in the latter category but that can change.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
* Chocked in Super Bowl as OC with a big lead.

* Chocked in Super Bowl with a lead.

* Chocked in the NFCCG with a lead.

Not a big game coach. If you are up in big games he routinely finds ways to lose.

Facts are facts guys.

Contact the press!!!
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
* Chocked in Super Bowl as OC with a big lead.

* Chocked in Super Bowl with a lead.

* Chocked in the NFCCG with a lead.

Not a big game coach. If you are up in big games he routinely finds ways to lose.

Facts are facts guys.

Interesting facts you have there

Those are facts.

And we should believe the guy who can't spell "choked" to know what a fact is?
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
* Chocked in Super Bowl as OC with a big lead.

* Chocked in Super Bowl with a lead.

* Chocked in the NFCCG with a lead.

Not a big game coach. If you are up in big games he routinely finds ways to lose.

Facts are facts guys.

Interesting facts you have there

Those are facts.

And we should believe the guy who can't spell "choked" to know what a fact is?

That's how it's spelt in San Diego.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
* Choked in Super Bowl as OC with a big lead.

* Choked in Super Bowl with a lead.

* Choked in the NFCCG with a lead.

Not a big game coach. If you are up in big games he routinely finds ways to lose.

Facts are facts guys.

Better? Still facts!

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
* Choked in Super Bowl as OC with a big lead.

* Choked in Super Bowl with a lead.

* Choked in the NFCCG with a lead.

Not a big game coach. If you are up in big games he routinely finds ways to lose.

Facts are facts guys.

Better? Still facts!


*won in the NFC Championship as a OC

*won in the NFC Championship

*won in the Divisional playoff game

those aren't big games?
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