49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 9ers4u:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by 9moon:
I just gave it to you... he HOSTED a Super Bowl party.. did you not cater it ?

Man I am glad Kyle is our HC. f**k what 9moon says.

i think hes trolling honestly he was maybe the only person to say Bosa wasnt worth the #2 pick and last year he was saying how Deebo isnta good WR he was even saying that halfway through this past season

i think he just wants engagement

yeah, I was also trolling the time I said that Harbaugh did not sign an extension because it was going to be his last year with us..

I was also trolling the time I said Devin White would be a good pick and would take Jamarr Chase and some PK name McPherson..

Deebo had a great year, everyone saw that, and if we aren't going to give him the money he may be asking for, then it woulda been wise to trade him to get several picks including a 1st rounder..

Firstly, do you know what Deebo is asking for?

Secondly, if we traded Deebo it'll be the single most dumbest thing Shanny could allow. Extending Deebo and Bosa should be the top priorities on Shanny's off-season plate.

This exactly. Although I would put it on Lynch's plate. Shanny coaches, Lynch runs the roster is my understanding.

HOW much do you think Deebo is worth and will be asking for?

I believe Hopkins getting about 25 a year, if not mistaken? Deebo had an awesome year, it'll be wise for his agent to at least start with 25 a year..

I thought the usage this year was a little silly. First off it's not sustainable to plow Deebo through the entire D play after play. Second you drive up his market value dramatically. I remember LeVeon Bell running receiver routes he wanted to be paid the combined dollars of a top RB and a top WR. Course he was a bit of a clown and didn't get it, but Deebo is no clown. Deebo can rightly ask for not only top WR money but added money for run game work. That said, the #1 rule in the NFL is when you hit on your draft picks you keep those guys around. We are not some farm team that develops talent for the rest of the NFL. We learned our lesson with Buck. We got cute, declined to pay him, flipped him for Kinlaw. Do you honestly want to flip Deebo for AJ Jenkins or some such?

Edit to say dollars are going up over time. Realize Carr is around a $40 mil price tag per year. This makes JG's $27 look like a bargain. This Deebo deal may break the bank now but soon enough you'll see lesser receivers get even bigger deals it's how it works. With Trey on the rookie deal and JG contract coming off the books it's no time to be cheap.

so to make a long story short, you will give Deebo his 25 if that's what he wants ?

Funny how people think Deebo is asking for anything. It's all run by the agents. The players don't want any part of it.

Player to agent here's some money to get me the best deal in the NFL

Agent to player here's the best deal I got you

Thanks...pen to paper

Don't read to much into it.. I'm merely asking if the team SHOULD give Deebo 25 a year if he or his agent asks for that much..

That's what he's worth, so long as it comes with injury protections for the 49ers. And if not, then a slightly lower salary with more guarantees. But this is what the best WRs in the NFL are making now. That's the market. That's what you have to pay to keep someone like that.

Yup. Imagine if we let him walk we replace him with some prospect who ends up being Jalen Hurd talent impact wise and Deebo signs with the Rams. Always pay fair market value for your studs on a first contract after rookie deal. No way on Earth you want studs entering their prime balling out somewhere else. I mean is anyone upset we have Fred and Kittle around long term? No they are upset seeing Buck ball out in a Colts uni.

True. But it's even more so important for Deebo, because while Buckner is an elite player, interior defensive linemen are easier to find than elite widebacks — there is basically 1. Maybe Chase will be used more like that going forward, and there are a couple of guys used for both positions, but as of now there is no one quite like Deebo,in that he's ELITE at both positions.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by 9moon:
I just gave it to you... he HOSTED a Super Bowl party.. did you not cater it ?

Man I am glad Kyle is our HC. f**k what 9moon says.

i think hes trolling honestly he was maybe the only person to say Bosa wasnt worth the #2 pick and last year he was saying how Deebo isnta good WR he was even saying that halfway through this past season

i think he just wants engagement

yeah, I was also trolling the time I said that Harbaugh did not sign an extension because it was going to be his last year with us..

I was also trolling the time I said Devin White would be a good pick and would take Jamarr Chase and some PK name McPherson..

Deebo had a great year, everyone saw that, and if we aren't going to give him the money he may be asking for, then it woulda been wise to trade him to get several picks including a 1st rounder..

Firstly, do you know what Deebo is asking for?

Secondly, if we traded Deebo it'll be the single most dumbest thing Shanny could allow. Extending Deebo and Bosa should be the top priorities on Shanny's off-season plate.

This exactly. Although I would put it on Lynch's plate. Shanny coaches, Lynch runs the roster is my understanding.

That's what they say publicly but everyone knows this is Kyle's team, he can veto any move and Kyle gets what he wants.

I think it's more a healthy collaboration between the two. They both respect one another and listen to the input. A good GM respects his coach and wants to give him tools for his success. Great combo imo I like these guys.

Kyle has veto power over any Lynch move. Kyle was the prize for Jed and his opinion is the one that matters IMO.

Agree it's Kyle's team. Very similar in organization to McVay/Walsh. Key here is for Kyle to be humble enough to listen to the guys he hired to help him evaluate players. Joe Williams, Solomon Thomas, Pettis misfires - is where I think Kyle may not have listened to his brain trust and went off on his own. Still he's done very well to go from bottom feeder team to Super bowl appearance in 3 years. I think he's gotten better drafting since 2019. I think the 2021 draft with Aubry, Huff, and Mitchell (and Trey Lance) was key to the 49ers making the playoffs.

Solomon Thomas my understanding had Lynch written all over it. I mean they are both Stanford guys and actually took a college class together.

Well that's an interesting observation, because if Kyle is the offensive Guru, then John should have a bit more say in defensive personnel because of his defensive background. Again, that points to a good working relationship where both are using their skills to the best of the whole without any sort of power struggle or ego agenda. That's a great positive for the team vs the HarBaalke regime where there was constant power struggles between the GM and the HC.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Well that's an interesting observation, because if Kyle is the offensive Guru, then John should have a bit more say in defensive personnel because of his defensive background. Again, that points to a good working relationship where both are using their skills to the best of the whole without any sort of power struggle or ego agenda. That's a great positive for the team vs the HarBaalke regime where there was constant power struggles between the GM and the HC.

That was my understanding also, that Kyle had major say in O and JL had major say in D. Still, i believe that except in a very few cases, McKinnon, plus our last WR/RB who never got off IR, Joe Woods (JL definitely got talked into that), and 1 or 2 others (Solomon and Reuben for JL), our guys have done a stellar job.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Well that's an interesting observation, because if Kyle is the offensive Guru, then John should have a bit more say in defensive personnel because of his defensive background. Again, that points to a good working relationship where both are using their skills to the best of the whole without any sort of power struggle or ego agenda. That's a great positive for the team vs the HarBaalke regime where there was constant power struggles between the GM and the HC.

That was my understanding also, that Kyle had major say in O and JL had major say in D. Still, i believe that except in a very few cases, McKinnon, plus our last WR/RB who never got off IR, Joe Woods (JL definitely got talked into that), and 1 or 2 others (Solomon and Reuben for JL), our guys have done a stellar job.

All NFL team miss with a majority of their picks.

You need to be good with high picks (bosa duh...solomon thomas whiff) and lucky to get a gem elsewhere every year

2 impact players a year is HOF GM stuff

SF has more than compensated the high busts with low draft/UDFA/cheap FA stars

Kittle
Warner
etc.

We could do better but overall Lynch and pals keep adding talent

Coach isn't going to the NFL scouting Combine?

Originally posted by BMoore56:
Coach isn't going to the NFL scouting Combine?

Busy interviewing candidates and filling out his coaching vacancies. Also, a number of coaching staffs across the league are starting to pass on going to the combine. Not really much to be gained there for them. The personnel people/scouts can handle everything. The important stuff is always 1) tape 2) private visits

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by BMoore56:
Coach isn't going to the NFL scouting Combine?

Busy interviewing candidates and filling out his coaching vacancies. Also, a number of coaching staffs across the league are starting to pass on going to the combine. Not really much to be gained there for them. The personnel people/scouts can handle everything. The important stuff is always 1) tape 2) private visits

This there's a handful of teams that aren't sending their coaching staff. We got Lynch/Peters and the scouting department going to the combine. Let them earn their checks.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by BMoore56:
Coach isn't going to the NFL scouting Combine?

Busy interviewing candidates and filling out his coaching vacancies. Also, a number of coaching staffs across the league are starting to pass on going to the combine. Not really much to be gained there for them. The personnel people/scouts can handle everything. The important stuff is always 1) tape 2) private visits

This there's a handful of teams that aren't sending their coaching staff. We got Lynch/Peters and the scouting department going to the combine. Let them earn their checks.

Plus Shanny can avoid the inevitable media questions about Jimmy G.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Plus Shanny can avoid the inevitable media questions about Jimmy G.

That's what Lynch is being paid to do He will be talking tomorrow at the combine.

I'm sure we will get some nuggets on Jimmy, the coaching staff and FA.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Busy interviewing candidates and filling out his coaching vacancies. Also, a number of coaching staffs across the league are starting to pass on going to the combine. Not really much to be gained there for them. The personnel people/scouts can handle everything. The important stuff is always 1) tape 2) private visits

There will still be a lot of Pro Days. More and more elite players are opting for that rather than stand around and be herded from one spot to another. It also gives them longer to recover from any nagging injuries they incurred during the season.

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Well that's an interesting observation, because if Kyle is the offensive Guru, then John should have a bit more say in defensive personnel because of his defensive background. Again, that points to a good working relationship where both are using their skills to the best of the whole without any sort of power struggle or ego agenda. That's a great positive for the team vs the HarBaalke regime where there was constant power struggles between the GM and the HC.

That was my understanding also, that Kyle had major say in O and JL had major say in D. Still, i believe that except in a very few cases, McKinnon, plus our last WR/RB who never got off IR, Joe Woods (JL definitely got talked into that), and 1 or 2 others (Solomon and Reuben for JL), our guys have done a stellar job.

All NFL team miss with a majority of their picks.

You need to be good with high picks (bosa duh...solomon thomas whiff) and lucky to get a gem elsewhere every year

2 impact players a year is HOF GM stuff

SF has more than compensated the high busts with low draft/UDFA/cheap FA stars

Kittle
Warner
etc.

We could do better but overall Lynch and pals keep adding talent

All NFL teams make misses.

not all NFL teams skip QB workouts when they dont have a QB on the roster. I know this mahomes take has been beaten to death but once again it's the major problem.

first time coach
first time GM with no GM experience or front office experience.

our mistakes are obvious, because all the koolaid drinking fans are ok with the heads of our organization learning on the job instead of having adults in the room.

we turned down Brady. That's all I have to say.

keep drinking that koolaid, fools.

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

we turned down Brady. That's all I have to say.

Well Bill Walsh said he saw potential in Gio Carmazzi.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

we turned down Brady. That's all I have to say.

Well Bill Walsh said he saw potential in Gio Carmazzi.

Drafted Gio over someone else what was his name again... oh yeah.. Brady!

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

we turned down Brady. That's all I have to say.

Well Bill Walsh said he saw potential in Gio Carmazzi.

Drafted Gio over someone else what was his name again... oh yeah.. Brady!

everybody turned down Brady... multiple times

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
everybody turned down Brady... multiple times

Right. You can't be ripped for not drafting player that lasted until the 6th round. Especially when he drafted Brady's favorite player in the 3rd round in 1979.