49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You aren't wrong. Take away that ST's TD against the packers and the offense averaged 15.33 ppg while the defense gave up an average of only 15.66 ppg.

I mean no one scored anything in that GB game. The weather was atrocious and when they did get in the RZ Jimmy tossed a pick. I've showed a ton of missed reads from Jimmy in that NFCC, why is that on Kyle? Build the perfect call vs a coverage, play is there and the QB either misses it or can't execute it.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Koldo:
The main reason the team made it to the NFCCG last season was Demeco Ryans and his defense, but some people here are not ready to hear truths.

K dude lol

Case in point.

One could also argue Kyle has dedicated the resources into making his defense a top defensive unit. Not sure if you are trying to discredit Kyle of not but the majority of his top draft picks and free agents have been on the defensive side of the ball.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You aren't wrong. Take away that ST's TD against the packers and the offense averaged 15.33 ppg while the defense gave up an average of only 15.66 ppg.

I mean no one scored anything in that GB game. The weather was atrocious and when they did get in the RZ Jimmy tossed a pick. I've showed a ton of missed reads from Jimmy in that NFCC, why is that on Kyle? Build the perfect call vs a coverage, play is there and the QB either misses it or can't execute it.

I haven't re-watched the game against the Packers, so I can't say for sure what the real Issues we're. I do remember It being a crazy game overall though. Many miscues on offense too. It actually felt as though everyone was on a different page that game lol. Tbh, If not for AR missing a wide open receiver at the end of the game, none of us would be talking about what went wrong In the NFCCG against the Rams.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You aren't wrong. Take away that ST's TD against the packers and the offense averaged 15.33 ppg while the defense gave up an average of only 15.66 ppg.

I mean no one scored anything in that GB game. The weather was atrocious and when they did get in the RZ Jimmy tossed a pick. I've showed a ton of missed reads from Jimmy in that NFCC, why is that on Kyle? Build the perfect call vs a coverage, play is there and the QB either misses it or can't execute it.

I never blamed Kyle for the NFCCG. We wore Deebo the hell out, had a 6th round rookie starting RB and a half dead starting QB who is limited even when fully healthy. Things should be better on offense this season. I see us averaging 28+ ppg on offense.

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Koldo:
The main reason the team made it to the NFCCG last season was Demeco Ryans and his defense, but some people here are not ready to hear truths.

K dude lol

Case in point.

One could also argue Kyle has dedicated the resources into making his defense a top defensive unit. Not sure if you are trying to discredit Kyle of not but the majority of his top draft picks and free agents have been on the defensive side of the ball.

Kyle gets it.

https://247sports.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/Article/San-Francisco-49ers-coach-Kyle-Shanahan-pushed-for-Mario-Williams-over-Reggie-Bush-in-2006-51447762/
"I went around the room and asked all of them who they thought we should draft, and I started with Kyle because he was the youngest," Casserly said, per the Mercury News. "Kyle said we should take Mario Williams, because he was the best player for the franchise. Think about that. He was an offensive coach, we needed a running back, and he said we should take the defensive player … That's why I always thought he would be a head coach, because he can see the big picture."

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You aren't wrong. Take away that ST's TD against the packers and the offense averaged 15.33 ppg while the defense gave up an average of only 15.66 ppg.

I mean no one scored anything in that GB game. The weather was atrocious and when they did get in the RZ Jimmy tossed a pick. I've showed a ton of missed reads from Jimmy in that NFCC, why is that on Kyle? Build the perfect call vs a coverage, play is there and the QB either misses it or can't execute it.

Jimmy f**king executes and makes quick right reads Aiyuk goes off and we dominate Bengals oline to ring 6. Beyond ready for Trey and just a new qb in general

Originally posted by miked1978:
One could also argue Kyle has dedicated the resources into making his defense a top defensive unit. Not sure if you are trying to discredit Kyle of not but the majority of his top draft picks and free agents have been on the defensive side of the ball.

He's been trying to discredit our HC for a while

Originally posted by miked1978:
One could also argue Kyle has dedicated the resources into making his defense a top defensive unit. Not sure if you are trying to discredit Kyle of not but the majority of his top draft picks and free agents have been on the defensive side of the ball.

We've used just as much draft capital on the offense as we have we the defense. We used 3 first round picks on Lance. I think Kyle and Lynch understand the Importance of building a well rounded, balanced team.

Originally posted by thl408:
Kyle gets it.

https://247sports.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/Article/San-Francisco-49ers-coach-Kyle-Shanahan-pushed-for-Mario-Williams-over-Reggie-Bush-in-2006-51447762/
"I went around the room and asked all of them who they thought we should draft, and I started with Kyle because he was the youngest," Casserly said, per the Mercury News. "Kyle said we should take Mario Williams, because he was the best player for the franchise. Think about that. He was an offensive coach, we needed a running back, and he said we should take the defensive player … That's why I always thought he would be a head coach, because he can see the big picture."

Yup in order to be a good offensive play caller you need to learn the defense inside/out. You gotta understand what can stop your offense. He values pass rushers and so does Lynch. That's a core principal in building a roster for them.

Kyle has mastered manipulating a defense's expectations…he understands the rules that apply to a coverage or how a DB/LBer is taught to cover a receiver on a route. I remember him talking to a ref right before a play saying Kittle is gonna get held on this play and to be watching. Sure enough it happened.

He understands how each element of a given concept will impact a defense, even if the point is to run a 4 yard run now, but that play will setup an explosive later in the game.

No one's perfect, but kyle is a damn good HC. You can see how he adapts (problem solves) based on personnel and how teams are playing defense against SF. I'm excited to see the new elements he's adding with a new QB and how the offense evolves.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by miked1978:
One could also argue Kyle has dedicated the resources into making his defense a top defensive unit. Not sure if you are trying to discredit Kyle of not but the majority of his top draft picks and free agents have been on the defensive side of the ball.

He's been trying to discredit our HC for a while

Unlike you, I'm not content with Kyle being labeled as "the best young mind in football" by NFL Network hosts or media pundits.

I only care about the team winning the Super Bowl. And so far he's fallen short of expectations.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by miked1978:
One could also argue Kyle has dedicated the resources into making his defense a top defensive unit. Not sure if you are trying to discredit Kyle of not but the majority of his top draft picks and free agents have been on the defensive side of the ball.

He's been trying to discredit our HC for a while

Unlike you, I'm not content with Kyle being labeled as "the best young mind in football" by NFL Network hosts or media pundits.

I only care about the team winning the Super Bowl. And so far he's fallen short of expectations.

I foresee this changing over the next 2-3 years. Kyle has a stacked roster and his hand picked QB now. Kyle may not have any more excuses left barring any major injuries but I feel confident enough to say that he won't need any excuses either.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You probably could but this is just pared down to 'our' list. And honestly, it just helps me ensure I look at everything and not get too caught up in just one aspect.

Top of that list has clearly been QB…just look at the teams record when we're tossing out backup level talent at QB vs a guy that actually is a starter even if it's at an avg level.

you can toss in play by play issues that helped lead to a loss, but in the grand scheme of wins and losses we know what mattered most. Give Kyle a FQB and we probably have two rings.

QB is enmeshed in like 5 of the 7 bad trends we have. So yes.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Koldo:
The main reason the team made it to the NFCCG last season was Demeco Ryans and his defense, but some people here are not ready to hear truths.

(Offense was putrid in the playoffs).

You aren't wrong. Take away that ST's TD against the packers and the offense averaged 15.33 ppg while the defense gave up an average of only 15.66 ppg.

And that was with the defense being 15th in the RZ and 17th on 3rd downs. Imagine if they shore up those two issues!

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I foresee this changing over the next 2-3 years. Kyle has a stacked roster and his hand picked QB now. Kyle may not have any more excuses left barring any major injuries but I feel confident enough to say that he won't need any excuses either.

Agreed. We have a stacked roster to go along with a QB who has potential to be great. Time for Kyle bring it home and give us all something to smile about.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Koldo:
The main reason the team made it to the NFCCG last season was Demeco Ryans and his defense, but some people here are not ready to hear truths.

(Offense was putrid in the playoffs).

You aren't wrong. Take away that ST's TD against the packers and the offense averaged 15.33 ppg while the defense gave up an average of only 15.66 ppg.

And that was with the defense being 15th in the RZ and 17th on 3rd downs. Imagine if they shore up those two issues!

They may have that issue solved now that they have a guy who can man up on the outside. I remember seeing our corners getting beat 1v1 on the outside in the endzone a lot. It will help having a pass rusher opposite Bosa for 3rd downs if Drake Jackson turns out to be that guy.