49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by cciowa:
he was horrible vs the rams.... blame the players.. blame jimmy.. but the delay of game penalty on 4th and 2 was on kyle and horrid.. i also recall when the game was tied... what did we do.. go away from the run and then have a delay of game.... stuff like that is on kyle and had nothing to do with the players or tartts dropped pick.. i am just saying. for the third time...... i hope he has learned if we ever get in those spots again.

the film is there.. the rams lined up an avg of 8 in the box to take away the run. so we passed. the throws weren't made.

The Rams gameplan was to take away the run and it worked. Kyle can only do so much

Now ask yourself this. How many times did we succeed against and how many times did we face an 8 man box in 2019?

i don't have the numbers in front of me. but it wasn't every play and when they did jimmy made the throws as he was a 3rd down conversion machine

jimmy 2019 >>> jimmy 2021

I don't disagree with that.

I would also say.

Run blocking 2019 >>> run blocking 2021

i mean, we took the league by storm by running more than the usual team. we were also running very well designed plays that the league wasn't prepared for. (made luke kuechly retire )

it also helped to face two playoff teams that weren't major run stoppers in Minn, GB given up 4.3 and 4.7 respectively for the season. 49ers 2021 avg per rush was 4.3, compared to 4.6 in 2019.

i feel they were even probably better in 2021, just injuries late in the season handicapped us, but didn't lose the last game for us

We had twice as many explosive runs in 2019 than we had in 2021. And twice as many rushing TD's, I believe.

Edit: we had 83 runs of 20+ yards in 2019 and 49 in 2021. The TD's were virtually the same.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by cciowa:
he was horrible vs the rams.... blame the players.. blame jimmy.. but the delay of game penalty on 4th and 2 was on kyle and horrid.. i also recall when the game was tied... what did we do.. go away from the run and then have a delay of game.... stuff like that is on kyle and had nothing to do with the players or tartts dropped pick.. i am just saying. for the third time...... i hope he has learned if we ever get in those spots again.

the film is there.. the rams lined up an avg of 8 in the box to take away the run. so we passed. the throws weren't made.

The Rams gameplan was to take away the run and it worked. Kyle can only do so much

Now ask yourself this. How many times did we succeed against and how many times did we face an 8 man box in 2019?

i don't have the numbers in front of me. but it wasn't every play and when they did jimmy made the throws as he was a 3rd down conversion machine

jimmy 2019 >>> jimmy 2021

I don't disagree with that.

I would also say.

Run blocking 2019 >>> run blocking 2021

i mean, we took the league by storm by running more than the usual team. we were also running very well designed plays that the league wasn't prepared for. (made luke kuechly retire )

it also helped to face two playoff teams that weren't major run stoppers in Minn, GB given up 4.3 and 4.7 respectively for the season. 49ers 2021 avg per rush was 4.3, compared to 4.6 in 2019.

i feel they were even probably better in 2021, just injuries late in the season handicapped us, but didn't lose the last game for us

We had twice as many explosive runs in 2019 than we had in 2021. And twice as many rushing TD's, I believe.

Edit: we had 83 runs of 20+ yards in 2019 and 49 in 2021. The TD's were virtually the same.

we also had our core RBs in 2019 and trying use rookies and guys off the PS due to injuries in 2021. but we still kept the avg close between those seasons

the Mostert injury was a major blow for the 2021 season

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by cciowa:
he was horrible vs the rams.... blame the players.. blame jimmy.. but the delay of game penalty on 4th and 2 was on kyle and horrid.. i also recall when the game was tied... what did we do.. go away from the run and then have a delay of game.... stuff like that is on kyle and had nothing to do with the players or tartts dropped pick.. i am just saying. for the third time...... i hope he has learned if we ever get in those spots again.

the film is there.. the rams lined up an avg of 8 in the box to take away the run. so we passed. the throws weren't made.

The Rams gameplan was to take away the run and it worked. Kyle can only do so much

Now ask yourself this. How many times did we succeed against and how many times did we face an 8 man box in 2019?

i don't have the numbers in front of me. but it wasn't every play and when they did jimmy made the throws as he was a 3rd down conversion machine

jimmy 2019 >>> jimmy 2021

I don't disagree with that.

I would also say.

Run blocking 2019 >>> run blocking 2021

i mean, we took the league by storm by running more than the usual team. we were also running very well designed plays that the league wasn't prepared for. (made luke kuechly retire )

it also helped to face two playoff teams that weren't major run stoppers in Minn, GB given up 4.3 and 4.7 respectively for the season. 49ers 2021 avg per rush was 4.3, compared to 4.6 in 2019.

i feel they were even probably better in 2021, just injuries late in the season handicapped us, but didn't lose the last game for us

We had twice as many explosive runs in 2019 than we had in 2021. And twice as many rushing TD's, I believe.

Edit: we had 83 runs of 20+ yards in 2019 and 49 in 2021. The TD's were virtually the same.

we also had our core RBs in 2019 and trying use rookies and guys off the PS due to injuries in 2021. but we still kept the avg close between those seasons

the Mostert injury was a major blow for the 2021 season

Perhaps but it seems that a majority of active posters on the O line topic seem to want to give a huge pass to the O line for its poor performances and place blame everywhere else but.

Kyle said in his presser that this is the best roster he's had since he's been there. More fuel for you know who………

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by cciowa:
he was horrible vs the rams.... blame the players.. blame jimmy.. but the delay of game penalty on 4th and 2 was on kyle and horrid.. i also recall when the game was tied... what did we do.. go away from the run and then have a delay of game.... stuff like that is on kyle and had nothing to do with the players or tartts dropped pick.. i am just saying. for the third time...... i hope he has learned if we ever get in those spots again.

the film is there.. the rams lined up an avg of 8 in the box to take away the run. so we passed. the throws weren't made.

The Rams gameplan was to take away the run and it worked. Kyle can only do so much

Now ask yourself this. How many times did we succeed against and how many times did we face an 8 man box in 2019?

i don't have the numbers in front of me. but it wasn't every play and when they did jimmy made the throws as he was a 3rd down conversion machine

jimmy 2019 >>> jimmy 2021

I don't disagree with that.

I would also say.

Run blocking 2019 >>> run blocking 2021

i mean, we took the league by storm by running more than the usual team. we were also running very well designed plays that the league wasn't prepared for. (made luke kuechly retire )

it also helped to face two playoff teams that weren't major run stoppers in Minn, GB given up 4.3 and 4.7 respectively for the season. 49ers 2021 avg per rush was 4.3, compared to 4.6 in 2019.

i feel they were even probably better in 2021, just injuries late in the season handicapped us, but didn't lose the last game for us

We had twice as many explosive runs in 2019 than we had in 2021. And twice as many rushing TD's, I believe.

Edit: we had 83 runs of 20+ yards in 2019 and 49 in 2021. The TD's were virtually the same.

we also had our core RBs in 2019 and trying use rookies and guys off the PS due to injuries in 2021. but we still kept the avg close between those seasons

the Mostert injury was a major blow for the 2021 season

Perhaps but it seems that a majority of active posters on the O line topic seem to want to give a huge pass to the O line for its poor performances and place blame everywhere else but.

it's because they weren't the issue until they got injured and still.. in the final game they gave jimmy enough time to make a play.. we were one possesion away in the end so it wasn't a blow out like other OL posters are campaigning

Originally posted by FL9er:
Kyle said in his presser that this is the best roster he's had since he's been there. More fuel for you know who………

Well, his ground game definitely looks unstoppable. His offensive linemen are bigger and so is his RBs and QBs.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by cciowa:
he was horrible vs the rams.... blame the players.. blame jimmy.. but the delay of game penalty on 4th and 2 was on kyle and horrid.. i also recall when the game was tied... what did we do.. go away from the run and then have a delay of game.... stuff like that is on kyle and had nothing to do with the players or tartts dropped pick.. i am just saying. for the third time...... i hope he has learned if we ever get in those spots again.

the film is there.. the rams lined up an avg of 8 in the box to take away the run. so we passed. the throws weren't made.

The Rams gameplan was to take away the run and it worked. Kyle can only do so much

Now ask yourself this. How many times did we succeed against and how many times did we face an 8 man box in 2019?

i don't have the numbers in front of me. but it wasn't every play and when they did jimmy made the throws as he was a 3rd down conversion machine

jimmy 2019 >>> jimmy 2021

I don't disagree with that.

I would also say.

Run blocking 2019 >>> run blocking 2021

i mean, we took the league by storm by running more than the usual team. we were also running very well designed plays that the league wasn't prepared for. (made luke kuechly retire )

it also helped to face two playoff teams that weren't major run stoppers in Minn, GB given up 4.3 and 4.7 respectively for the season. 49ers 2021 avg per rush was 4.3, compared to 4.6 in 2019.

i feel they were even probably better in 2021, just injuries late in the season handicapped us, but didn't lose the last game for us

We had twice as many explosive runs in 2019 than we had in 2021. And twice as many rushing TD's, I believe.

Edit: we had 83 runs of 20+ yards in 2019 and 49 in 2021. The TD's were virtually the same.

we also had our core RBs in 2019 and trying use rookies and guys off the PS due to injuries in 2021. but we still kept the avg close between those seasons

the Mostert injury was a major blow for the 2021 season

Perhaps but it seems that a majority of active posters on the O line topic seem to want to give a huge pass to the O line for its poor performances and place blame everywhere else but.

it's because they weren't the issue until they got injured and still.. in the final game they gave jimmy enough time to make a play.. we were one possesion away in the end so it wasn't a blow out like other OL posters are campaigning

If you had to distribute blame on the offense, what percentage would you place on the o line this last post season?

Originally posted by FL9er:
Kyle said in his presser that this is the best roster he's had since he's been there. More fuel for you know who………

We feel special....

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by cciowa:
he was horrible vs the rams.... blame the players.. blame jimmy.. but the delay of game penalty on 4th and 2 was on kyle and horrid.. i also recall when the game was tied... what did we do.. go away from the run and then have a delay of game.... stuff like that is on kyle and had nothing to do with the players or tartts dropped pick.. i am just saying. for the third time...... i hope he has learned if we ever get in those spots again.

the film is there.. the rams lined up an avg of 8 in the box to take away the run. so we passed. the throws weren't made.

The Rams gameplan was to take away the run and it worked. Kyle can only do so much

Now ask yourself this. How many times did we succeed against and how many times did we face an 8 man box in 2019?

i don't have the numbers in front of me. but it wasn't every play and when they did jimmy made the throws as he was a 3rd down conversion machine

jimmy 2019 >>> jimmy 2021

I don't disagree with that.

I would also say.

Run blocking 2019 >>> run blocking 2021

i mean, we took the league by storm by running more than the usual team. we were also running very well designed plays that the league wasn't prepared for. (made luke kuechly retire )

it also helped to face two playoff teams that weren't major run stoppers in Minn, GB given up 4.3 and 4.7 respectively for the season. 49ers 2021 avg per rush was 4.3, compared to 4.6 in 2019.

i feel they were even probably better in 2021, just injuries late in the season handicapped us, but didn't lose the last game for us

We had twice as many explosive runs in 2019 than we had in 2021. And twice as many rushing TD's, I believe.

Edit: we had 83 runs of 20+ yards in 2019 and 49 in 2021. The TD's were virtually the same.

we also had our core RBs in 2019 and trying use rookies and guys off the PS due to injuries in 2021. but we still kept the avg close between those seasons

the Mostert injury was a major blow for the 2021 season

Perhaps but it seems that a majority of active posters on the O line topic seem to want to give a huge pass to the O line for its poor performances and place blame everywhere else but.

it's because they weren't the issue until they got injured and still.. in the final game they gave jimmy enough time to make a play.. we were one possesion away in the end so it wasn't a blow out like other OL posters are campaigning

If you had to distribute blame on the offense, what percentage would you place on the o line this last post season?

blame pie chart

https://www.meta-chart.com/share/untitled-78615

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by cciowa:
he was horrible vs the rams.... blame the players.. blame jimmy.. but the delay of game penalty on 4th and 2 was on kyle and horrid.. i also recall when the game was tied... what did we do.. go away from the run and then have a delay of game.... stuff like that is on kyle and had nothing to do with the players or tartts dropped pick.. i am just saying. for the third time...... i hope he has learned if we ever get in those spots again.

the film is there.. the rams lined up an avg of 8 in the box to take away the run. so we passed. the throws weren't made.

The Rams gameplan was to take away the run and it worked. Kyle can only do so much

Now ask yourself this. How many times did we succeed against and how many times did we face an 8 man box in 2019?

i don't have the numbers in front of me. but it wasn't every play and when they did jimmy made the throws as he was a 3rd down conversion machine

jimmy 2019 >>> jimmy 2021

I don't disagree with that.

I would also say.

Run blocking 2019 >>> run blocking 2021

i mean, we took the league by storm by running more than the usual team. we were also running very well designed plays that the league wasn't prepared for. (made luke kuechly retire )

it also helped to face two playoff teams that weren't major run stoppers in Minn, GB given up 4.3 and 4.7 respectively for the season. 49ers 2021 avg per rush was 4.3, compared to 4.6 in 2019.

i feel they were even probably better in 2021, just injuries late in the season handicapped us, but didn't lose the last game for us

We had twice as many explosive runs in 2019 than we had in 2021. And twice as many rushing TD's, I believe.

Edit: we had 83 runs of 20+ yards in 2019 and 49 in 2021. The TD's were virtually the same.

we also had our core RBs in 2019 and trying use rookies and guys off the PS due to injuries in 2021. but we still kept the avg close between those seasons

the Mostert injury was a major blow for the 2021 season

Perhaps but it seems that a majority of active posters on the O line topic seem to want to give a huge pass to the O line for its poor performances and place blame everywhere else but.

it's because they weren't the issue until they got injured and still.. in the final game they gave jimmy enough time to make a play.. we were one possesion away in the end so it wasn't a blow out like other OL posters are campaigning

If you had to distribute blame on the offense, what percentage would you place on the o line this last post season?

blame pie chart

https://www.meta-chart.com/share/untitled-78615

Nice. I would put QB and O line about even but I do like your overall distribution.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
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https://www.meta-chart.com/share/untitled-78615

Thats where I would be too.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Uh, I think it's more dependent on the team staying healthy than whatever your problem with his play calling is.

Injuries are part of the game. That has nothing to do with his overall play calling In the 4th Q of big games. Let's just hope we see a more aggressive approach now we have Lance at QB, and less punting on 4th n 2 when you desperately need a first down.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by cciowa:
he was horrible vs the rams.... blame the players.. blame jimmy.. but the delay of game penalty on 4th and 2 was on kyle and horrid.. i also recall when the game was tied... what did we do.. go away from the run and then have a delay of game.... stuff like that is on kyle and had nothing to do with the players or tartts dropped pick.. i am just saying. for the third time...... i hope he has learned if we ever get in those spots again.

the film is there.. the rams lined up an avg of 8 in the box to take away the run. so we passed. the throws weren't made.

The Rams gameplan was to take away the run and it worked. Kyle can only do so much

Now ask yourself this. How many times did we succeed against and how many times did we face an 8 man box in 2019?

i don't have the numbers in front of me. but it wasn't every play and when they did jimmy made the throws as he was a 3rd down conversion machine

jimmy 2019 >>> jimmy 2021

I don't disagree with that.

I would also say.

Run blocking 2019 >>> run blocking 2021

i mean, we took the league by storm by running more than the usual team. we were also running very well designed plays that the league wasn't prepared for. (made luke kuechly retire )

it also helped to face two playoff teams that weren't major run stoppers in Minn, GB given up 4.3 and 4.7 respectively for the season. 49ers 2021 avg per rush was 4.3, compared to 4.6 in 2019.

i feel they were even probably better in 2021, just injuries late in the season handicapped us, but didn't lose the last game for us

We had twice as many explosive runs in 2019 than we had in 2021. And twice as many rushing TD's, I believe.

Edit: we had 83 runs of 20+ yards in 2019 and 49 in 2021. The TD's were virtually the same.

we also had our core RBs in 2019 and trying use rookies and guys off the PS due to injuries in 2021. but we still kept the avg close between those seasons

the Mostert injury was a major blow for the 2021 season

Perhaps but it seems that a majority of active posters on the O line topic seem to want to give a huge pass to the O line for its poor performances and place blame everywhere else but.

it's because they weren't the issue until they got injured and still.. in the final game they gave jimmy enough time to make a play.. we were one possesion away in the end so it wasn't a blow out like other OL posters are campaigning

If you had to distribute blame on the offense, what percentage would you place on the o line this last post season?

blame pie chart

https://www.meta-chart.com/share/untitled-78615

Nice. I would put QB and O line about even but I do like your overall distribution.

This. But that's fun!

Kyle would say it's all him, of course.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by cciowa:
he was horrible vs the rams.... blame the players.. blame jimmy.. but the delay of game penalty on 4th and 2 was on kyle and horrid.. i also recall when the game was tied... what did we do.. go away from the run and then have a delay of game.... stuff like that is on kyle and had nothing to do with the players or tartts dropped pick.. i am just saying. for the third time...... i hope he has learned if we ever get in those spots again.

the film is there.. the rams lined up an avg of 8 in the box to take away the run. so we passed. the throws weren't made.

The Rams gameplan was to take away the run and it worked. Kyle can only do so much

Now ask yourself this. How many times did we succeed against and how many times did we face an 8 man box in 2019?

i don't have the numbers in front of me. but it wasn't every play and when they did jimmy made the throws as he was a 3rd down conversion machine

jimmy 2019 >>> jimmy 2021

I don't disagree with that.

I would also say.

Run blocking 2019 >>> run blocking 2021

i mean, we took the league by storm by running more than the usual team. we were also running very well designed plays that the league wasn't prepared for. (made luke kuechly retire )

it also helped to face two playoff teams that weren't major run stoppers in Minn, GB given up 4.3 and 4.7 respectively for the season. 49ers 2021 avg per rush was 4.3, compared to 4.6 in 2019.

i feel they were even probably better in 2021, just injuries late in the season handicapped us, but didn't lose the last game for us

We had twice as many explosive runs in 2019 than we had in 2021. And twice as many rushing TD's, I believe.

Edit: we had 83 runs of 20+ yards in 2019 and 49 in 2021. The TD's were virtually the same.

we also had our core RBs in 2019 and trying use rookies and guys off the PS due to injuries in 2021. but we still kept the avg close between those seasons

the Mostert injury was a major blow for the 2021 season

Perhaps but it seems that a majority of active posters on the O line topic seem to want to give a huge pass to the O line for its poor performances and place blame everywhere else but.

it's because they weren't the issue until they got injured and still.. in the final game they gave jimmy enough time to make a play.. we were one possesion away in the end so it wasn't a blow out like other OL posters are campaigning

If you had to distribute blame on the offense, what percentage would you place on the o line this last post season?

blame pie chart

https://www.meta-chart.com/share/untitled-78615

Nice. I would put QB and O line about even but I do like your overall distribution.

This. But that's fun!

Kyle would say it's all him, of course.

QB, Kyle, O-Line, secondary, In that order.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Uh, I think it's more dependent on the team staying healthy than whatever your problem with his play calling is.

Injuries are part of the game. That has nothing to do with his overall play calling In the 4th Q of big games. Let's just hope we see a more aggressive approach now we have Lance at QB, and less punting on 4th n 2 when you desperately need a first down.

I've always thought that there is a mental component to injuries. Why is it that Kyle always preaches to come into training camp already in shape? I think that reflects a certain mindset and attitude with regards to injury prevention. The last two years, I think ShanaLynch has really tried to prioritize durability a bit more than talent. I hope that will show up on the field and in the 2022 season as us losing out on being the in the top spot for most injured team in the NFL this year.

He's also beefed up the 4th qtr run game with actually drafting RB's now instead of going the UDFA way these past two years.