49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NinerGM:
This isn't just about this season. The league has caught up since 2019.

San Francisco 49ers' Anemic Offense Once Again Exposed in Loss to Packers (2021)

Dude, show me one other coach in the league that could accomplish what Kyle has, all with a backup QB. Bellichick the only other one I can think of.

Originally posted by wysiwyg:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by wysiwyg:
I just had a burrito with Tapatio and I just Kyled in my undies

Next time I hope you are qiicker and drop your Kyle in the restroom where.it.belongs

I tried

Most importantly I hope you wiped.well, Kyle-berries are no fun to deal with

This guy has been riding the defense and Mike McDaniel the whole time he has been here. You can see how McDaniel has changed Miami. I'd be absolutely shocked if we beat the Rams next week.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
This isn't just about this season. The league has caught up since 2019.

San Francisco 49ers' Anemic Offense Once Again Exposed in Loss to Packers (2021)

I've said this before, but I think Kyle has become to dependent on Deebo..

Can't believe people are still defending this mediocre head coach

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Can I also remind people that Denver's head coach had to hire another assistant head coach yesterday to help him with "in-game decisions".

Shanahan lost to this guy. And his team put up 10 points after a dominant defensive performance.

No one talks about how shanahan's greatest success as a HC are tied to the QB everyone hates and a defense he has nothing to do with.

I think the evidence is pretty clear that Shanahan won despite Jimmy G, not because of him. The odds of Jimmy G ever having a starting season as good as 2019 again are very, very low.

I say this as someone who wanted Jimmy to be the guy after he got here. He just isn't. The league has way too much game film on him now and knows how to exploit his weaknesses, and Jimmy doesn't have a good enough game to overcome that. Coaches are not going to be able to do anything to hide that anymore. Even when Shanahan is doing great at playcalls - something he's clearly not doing right now - Jimmy isn't gonna give you that extra ability a QB needs to win these games.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NinerGM:
This isn't just about this season. The league has caught up since 2019.

San Francisco 49ers' Anemic Offense Once Again Exposed in Loss to Packers (2021)

Dude, show me one other coach in the league that could accomplish what Kyle has, all with a backup QB. Bellichick the only other one I can think of.

Doug Pederson actually won the SB (unlike Shanny) with a backup QB.

Would you like to have Pederson as our HC?

That's what I thought.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Niners' greatest success under Shanny has been because of the defenses under Saleh and Ryans.

Ryan is a second year DC and his unit is lightyears beyond shanahan.

Sad but true

Offenses and defenses are too different to make this comparison, IMO.

Defense is about harnessing talent and pointing it in the right direction. Goal of a defense is to create chao and disruption, and to be opportunistic.

Offenses are about rhythm, timing, precision. It's an orchestra. And it needs a top end conductor (QB) to truly bring all the instruments into harmony consistently enough to win year in and year out. Sometimes a team can get by with the community theater orchestra because their defense is so good, but it's rare.

Long winded excuse. Shanahan is a crap head coach and nothing more than a schemer who doesn't even adapt that scheme to maximize talent.

The only adaptations he does make are ones that get his starting QB killed (and his career in the process).

Remember when he called a shotgun delay with jimmy g after he snapped Lance's ankle? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

You are welcome to your opinion. Just don't come complain to me when the next HC sucks much more than Shanahan, because odds are he will.

Don't want Kyle canned but Sean Payton wouldn't fail on this team. One things for sure he'll run up the score and keep attacking

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Someone start a coubtdown to when Shanahan gets fired.

I called him shanaloser when he was hired. 6 years later I look like nostradamus

Great idea, we need Rita Oak to draw a picture of Sharty every day till he gets fired.

Originally posted by captveg:
I think the evidence is pretty clear that Shanahan won despite Jimmy G, not because of him. The odds of Jimmy G ever having a starting season as good as 2019 again are very, very low.

I say this as someone who wanted Jimmy to be the guy after he got here. He just isn't. The league has way too much game film on him now and knows how to exploit his weaknesses, and Jimmy doesn't have a good enough game to overcome that. Coaches are not going to be able to do anything to hide that anymore. Even when Shanahan is doing great at playcalls - something he's clearly not doing right now - Jimmy isn't gonna give you that extra ability a QB needs to win these games.

OMG finally. A voice of reason. Jimmy is a BACKUP QB. Period. The fact our team has been this successful with a backup at the most important position is a testament to Kyle's coaching abilities, not the other way around.

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Don't want Kyle canned but Sean Payton wouldn't fail on this team. One things for sure he'll run up the score and keep attacking

Will he have Brees? Even Payton was limited on offense without his HoF QB last year.

I want Shanny to be more aggressive, too. Would being more aggressive with Jimmy G change the results? I doubt it

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Niners' greatest success under Shanny has been because of the defenses under Saleh and Ryans.

Ryan is a second year DC and his unit is lightyears beyond shanahan.

Sad but true

Offenses and defenses are too different to make this comparison, IMO.

Defense is about harnessing talent and pointing it in the right direction. Goal of a defense is to create chao and disruption, and to be opportunistic.

Offenses are about rhythm, timing, precision. It's an orchestra. And it needs a top end conductor (QB) to truly bring all the instruments into harmony consistently enough to win year in and year out. Sometimes a team can get by with the community theater orchestra because their defense is so good, but it's rare.

Long winded excuse. Shanahan is a crap head coach and nothing more than a schemer who doesn't even adapt that scheme to maximize talent.

The only adaptations he does make are ones that get his starting QB killed (and his career in the process).

Remember when he called a shotgun delay with jimmy g after he snapped Lance's ankle? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

You are welcome to your opinion. Just don't come complain to me when the next HC sucks much more than Shanahan, because odds are he will.

Don't want Kyle canned but Sean Payton wouldn't fail on this team. One things for sure he'll run up the score and keep attacking

What's Payton's record without Brees?

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Niners' greatest success under Shanny has been because of the defenses under Saleh and Ryans.

Ryan is a second year DC and his unit is lightyears beyond shanahan.

Sad but true

Offenses and defenses are too different to make this comparison, IMO.

Defense is about harnessing talent and pointing it in the right direction. Goal of a defense is to create chao and disruption, and to be opportunistic.

Offenses are about rhythm, timing, precision. It's an orchestra. And it needs a top end conductor (QB) to truly bring all the instruments into harmony consistently enough to win year in and year out. Sometimes a team can get by with the community theater orchestra because their defense is so good, but it's rare.

Long winded excuse. Shanahan is a crap head coach and nothing more than a schemer who doesn't even adapt that scheme to maximize talent.

The only adaptations he does make are ones that get his starting QB killed (and his career in the process).

Remember when he called a shotgun delay with jimmy g after he snapped Lance's ankle? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

You are welcome to your opinion. Just don't come complain to me when the next HC sucks much more than Shanahan, because odds are he will.

Don't want Kyle canned but Sean Payton wouldn't fail on this team. One things for sure he'll run up the score and keep attacking

You think Payton would take this team farther than Kyle with Jimmy as his QB? Wow. I respectfully disagree. You know how often he wants to throw the ball? Jimmy would have 3 ints per game.

Kyle is a genius because he schemed away Jimmy's limitations and did that wideback crap last year. They should have been a 5-12 team, but they made an NFC championship game.

Now the bag of tricks is empty, and defenses have figured everything out. What else can you do for a limited passer?

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by JMC52:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Niners' greatest success under Shanny has been because of the defenses under Saleh and Ryans.

Ryan is a second year DC and his unit is lightyears beyond shanahan.

Sad but true

Offenses and defenses are too different to make this comparison, IMO.

Defense is about harnessing talent and pointing it in the right direction. Goal of a defense is to create chao and disruption, and to be opportunistic.

Offenses are about rhythm, timing, precision. It's an orchestra. And it needs a top end conductor (QB) to truly bring all the instruments into harmony consistently enough to win year in and year out. Sometimes a team can get by with the community theater orchestra because their defense is so good, but it's rare.

Long winded excuse. Shanahan is a crap head coach and nothing more than a schemer who doesn't even adapt that scheme to maximize talent.

The only adaptations he does make are ones that get his starting QB killed (and his career in the process).

Remember when he called a shotgun delay with jimmy g after he snapped Lance's ankle? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

You are welcome to your opinion. Just don't come complain to me when the next HC sucks much more than Shanahan, because odds are he will.

Don't want Kyle canned but Sean Payton wouldn't fail on this team. One things for sure he'll run up the score and keep attacking

What's Payton's record without Brees?

Did Payton trade for Brees?

Did Kyle trade for Brady/Stafford/Rogers?

Is Kyle the GM?