49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Tua went from a 90 qb rating to a 117 under McDaniels so far. At some point you got to take your qb, surround him with speed and talent and elevate him. But it's hard to do that when you're scheming ways to turn your qb's and receivers into running backs. I'm surprised he hasn't turned Kittle into a fullback just yet but the night is still young.

Shanny is one of the better offensive minds but it's time to pull back the excuses.

whatever he's turned Kittle into it's not good. When was the last time this guy was even given a shot to make a big play?

You are what your record is as a great coach said. Right now he's not that good a coach. We played 3 teams that frankly don't look good. We are 1-2. Offense the problem in 2 games. KS picked the offense. He's responsible for it 100.

I'm just disgusted. The offense so far through 3 games hS been completely putrid. Kyle has lost his ability ro be innovative. There's no excuse. Jimmy had a s**t night, but we know he isn't a s**t qb. It goes beyond Jimmy. Kyle looks miserable. He isn't having fun. It shows. The offense was s**tneven with Trey. It's like he's not even trying.

Fire Kyle and move on. Guy isn't good enough. His offensive scheme sucks

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yup Kyle has his warts too, but toss Kyle a good QB and this offense is scoring a ton of points. Hopefully that's Lance down the road. Fans need to accept and support that because that's the route they're going. Or they can just scream fire Kyle and think we can magically find a better HC lol.

I get what you're saying NY but you absolutely cannot tell me that after 6 years the head coach has had no or little say in what QB he has on his team. You just can't - especially an offensive minded HC. It's like not holding the CEO accountable for the VPs that are in the organization for 6 years. Jimmy isn't here by accident. No you don't magically find another coach and I can't even say I'm there yet, BUT accountability is accountability and what I saw last night isn't just about Jimmy.

Agree. People like to blame this and that forgetting Shanny is the HC responsible for this and that.

Bottom line is after 6 years, he's gone through crappy ass QBs and the offense is still a mess. Our RBs suck and we have used a lot of draft capital to find good ones. Same goes for the OL.

Kyle hasn't figured out after three games the Deebo runs have been exposed. They do not work.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Tua went from a 90 qb rating to a 117 under McDaniels so far. At some point you got to take your qb, surround him with speed and talent and elevate him. But it's hard to do that when you're scheming ways to turn your qb's and receivers into running backs. I'm surprised he hasn't turned Kittle into a fullback just yet but the night is still young.

Shanny is one of the better offensive minds but it's time to pull back the excuses.

Miami has years of high draft picks and spent top end money on FAs (because they had too) for years…at some point you'd think they hit and also get a competent play caller in there. I do wish SF spent some cash on proven vets at areas of need. Personnel wise I don't think Kyle is amazing there.

without a doubt Kyle has to be better. But fumbling snaps, throwing into double coverage, missing wide open receivers downfield. Under throwing guys, inaccurate passes on easy 3rd completions etc etc that s**t adds up and makes wins damn near impossible in the NFL.

while I hate the Deebo runs from the backfield, he's clearly getting the ball out of Jimmy's hands as fast as possible and giving the ball to his best playmaker. Every HC has his warts and kyle doesn't get a pass there either

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'm just disgusted. The offense so far through 3 games hS been completely putrid. Kyle has lost his ability ro be innovative. There's no excuse. Jimmy had a s**t night, but we know he isn't a s**t qb. It goes beyond Jimmy. Kyle looks miserable. He isn't having fun. It shows. The offense was s**tneven with Trey. It's like he's not even trying.

I wouldn't be having fun if my QB ran out of the end zone, was throwing into double coverages for INTs, fumbling snaps and was f**king up perfectly schemed passes to our best players.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Who's saying he doesn't have faults? The lows overall have coming with backup level QB play for the most part. Like any good HC you need good QB play. I don't give a s**t if you're Bill Walsh you can't win meaningful games over a long season when forced to play your backup QBs.

We're 6 years in. At what point is he responsible for the choice of QB and the lack of development at that position? That's a fault of his imo.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Tua went from a 90 qb rating to a 117 under McDaniels so far. At some point you got to take your qb, surround him with speed and talent and elevate him. But it's hard to do that when you're scheming ways to turn your qb's and receivers into running backs. I'm surprised he hasn't turned Kittle into a fullback just yet but the night is still young.

Shanny is one of the better offensive minds but it's time to pull back the excuses.

The running game has also suffered. We really do miss McDaniels.

Originally posted by Method:
Fire Kyle and move on. Guy isn't good enough. His offensive scheme sucks

F Jimmy. JUST POUND THE BALL.

JUST DO IT! 🤣

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yup Kyle has his warts too, but toss Kyle a good QB and this offense is scoring a ton of points. Hopefully that's Lance down the road. Fans need to accept and support that because that's the route they're going. Or they can just scream fire Kyle and think we can magically find a better HC lol.

I get what you're saying NY but you absolutely cannot tell me that after 6 years the head coach has had no or little say in what QB he has on his team. You just can't - especially an offensive minded HC. It's like not holding the CEO accountable for the VPs that are in the organization for 6 years. Jimmy isn't here by accident. No you don't magically find another coach and I can't even say I'm there yet, BUT accountability is accountability and what I saw last night isn't just about Jimmy.

I never said that I said it's hard to win meaningful games over long stretches of and NFL season when forced to play your backups at QB.

no Jimmy is kinda here by accident. Dude was on his way out, trade was almost done and he went and got surgery. They clearly didn't want him as the starter this yr and gave him backup money to sit and hold a clip board. He has value as a backup to his team (and really any team). This is a long season and a ton of things can and will happen.

injuries suck but are part of the game.

Originally posted by 9erson3:
The running game has also suffered. We really do miss McDaniels.

The running game was fine with Lance. Miami has one of the worst run games in the league so far, they're avging 3.3 ypc

Originally posted by 9erson3:
The running game has also suffered. We really do miss McDaniels.

IRONICALLY, They only ran 18X last night in a close scoring game, NO WAY enough with Jimmy Fail at QB.

Wilson average 6.3, JUST POUND THE BALL. F JIMMY.

POUND MORE WITH MASON, MACK, WHOEVER. F JIMMY.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Tua went from a 90 qb rating to a 117 under McDaniels so far. At some point you got to take your qb, surround him with speed and talent and elevate him. But it's hard to do that when you're scheming ways to turn your qb's and receivers into running backs. I'm surprised he hasn't turned Kittle into a fullback just yet but the night is still young.

Shanny is one of the better offensive minds but it's time to pull back the excuses.

Miami has years of high draft picks and spent top end money on FAs (because they had too) for years…at some point you'd think they hit and also get a competent play caller in there. I do wish SF spent some cash on proven vets at areas of need. Personnel wise I don't think Kyle is amazing there.

without a doubt Kyle has to be better. But fumbling snaps, throwing into double coverage, missing wide open receivers downfield. Under throwing guys, inaccurate passes on easy 3rd completions etc etc that s**t adds up and makes wins damn near impossible in the NFL.

while I hate the Deebo runs from the backfield, he's clearly getting the ball out of Jimmy's hands as fast as possible and giving the ball to his best playmaker. Every HC has his warts and kyle doesn't get a pass there either

This is some f**king b******t and it passes me off.

Kyle inherited a team with a s**tLOAD of caps pace, and s**tLOAD of picks. This team was absolutely ready to be built from the ground up in Kyle's image What the f**k do they do? They f**king wasted it in the likes of Solomon Thomas rueben foster, Joe Williams dante pettis trey sermon etc. They give nasty contracts out to guys who don't even take the field.

f**k that. Kyle needs to be accountable for the current state of the offense. It's 100% on him.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
This is some f**king b******t and it passes me off.

Kyle inherited a team with a s**tLOAD of caps pace, and s**tLOAD of picks. This team was absolutely ready to be built from the ground up in Kyle's image What the f**k do they do? They f**king wasted it in the likes of Solomon Thomas rueben foster, Joe Williams dante pettis trey sermon etc. They give nasty contracts out to guys who don't even take the field.

f**k that. Kyle needs to be accountable for the current state of the offense. It's 100% on him.

The "current state of the offense" is Jimmy Fail at QB, TW down, JUST POUND THE BALL #1 FIRST AND FOREMOST TO SETUP ANYTHING ELSE, YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS GOING FORWARD, if you want to win games that is.

Remember who carried the team deep into the play offs and NFCC last season, Deebo, Mitchell and the running game and the D, NOT JIMMY FAIL.