49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
pretty much...this was never gonna be a .500 team no way no how.

Yep. Our 9ers still suck, which shouldn't surprise anyone.

So far however, they're incomparably more fun to watch this year than they were the previous two years.

The true pleasure in this year's crappy team IMO, and on offense in particular, is that when plays don't work you can usually pinpoint the individual player of marginal talent which caused the play not to work. You can say "Oh, that run play got blown up because Tomlinson isn't very good and missed his block", or because Hoyer isn't very good and missed an open read, or because Goodwin dropped the pass, etc., etc., etc.

Over the last two years on top of talent problems we've had misbegotten scheme and play calling problems. Just being a team for which the major problem is a lack of talent is a HUGE improvement, even if it doesn't show up in the W/L column.

Logic!

it does exist!

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Giants is our only chance for a W

I hope they give TO and Chad OchoCinco a shot....not because their going to help them or have anything left but the comedy those two should bring.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

pretty much...this was never gonna be a .500 team no way no how.

IF we had slightly better QB play we'd be at least 3-2. people need to focus on individual player grow and see who's got a place on this team for the future. Gotta look past the wins and losses year 1 into a rebuild.

Some of the people complaining, just didn't want Shanny or just like to complain and are getting their "moment" to do it. sad

This. People who were going to complain no matter what happened short of a 16-0 season.

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
pretty much...this was never gonna be a .500 team no way no how.

Yep. Our 9ers still suck, which shouldn't surprise anyone.

So far however, they're incomparably more fun to watch this year than they were the previous two years.

The true pleasure in this year's crappy team IMO, and on offense in particular, is that when plays don't work you can usually pinpoint the individual player of marginal talent which caused the play not to work. You can say "Oh, that run play got blown up because Tomlinson isn't very good and missed his block", or because Hoyer isn't very good and missed an open read, or because Goodwin dropped the pass, etc., etc., etc.

Over the last two years on top of talent problems we've had misbegotten scheme and play calling problems. Just being a team for which the major problem is a lack of talent is a HUGE improvement, even if it doesn't show up in the W/L column.

This is good. Plays are getting players open. Things are working on the design end. The execution is not.

Originally posted by paulk205:

(a) however is something to talk about. As I wrote in my original email, losing games makes sense if you are developing young talent who will be with you for years when the next great team is assembled.

Nice post Paul.

This is ultimately it for me this year. Lay down two battle tested real NFL schemes (one that can take 3 years to master) and get as many snaps as you can for your young players who will be part of the foundation going forward. I look at individual performances each week within this context.

And most fans are missing it. It's calculated. This is literally an extended pre season designed to install the systems and get the youth up to speed within the systems.

And each week, just like a pre season game, a new player is highlighted:

Hoyer - as bipolar as it gets BUT clearly, the playbook is wide open with him and as a result, the other 10 grow faster.
Taylor - highlighted two weeks ago
Kittle - highlighted this week
Hyde - coaches have seen enough; time to develop Breida
Breida - highlighted this week while Hyde sat
Goodwin - highlighted the past two weeks
T.Brown - highlighted this week in outside zone (our future)
Tartt & Ward - our future
Thomas - learning 3 positions (our future)
Buckner - duh
Armstead - ? but learning 3 positions
Jones - nice player learning from Mitchell
Robinson - had his best game
Witherspoon - was put in for Dontae but got a concussion (our future?)
Tank - our future at 6T
Williams - our future (new contract)
Juice - our future
Foster - our future
Taylor/Bolden/Mostert/Colbert/Nelson/Pinion - our present and future (all studs already)

And soon we'll start to see Blair, Pita and maybe BeatHard too at some point.

This is all calculated with targeting and developing the youth. Guys like Bowman, Mitchell, Celek, Garcon, Paulsen, etc. are going to see less and less snaps and in fact, we're already seeing that and that was the plan all along...as it should be!

The fact that we're taking that approach AND staying competitive during system installs, with so much youth and while having the 2nd most players on I.R. is a HUGE testament to our Head Coach.

Forget the W-L's...this is how you evaluate a rebuild.

And kuddos to Kyle for executing the FO plan. It's the right plan for tomorrow.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by paulk205:

(a) however is something to talk about. As I wrote in my original email, losing games makes sense if you are developing young talent who will be with you for years when the next great team is assembled.

Nice post Paul.

This is ultimately it for me this year. Lay down two battle tested real NFL schemes and get as many snaps as you can for your ting players who will be part of the foundation going forward. I look at individual performances each week within this context.

And most fans are missing it. It's calculated. This is literally an extended pre season designed to install the systems and get the youth up to speed with the systems. And each week, just like a pre season game, a new player is highlighted

Hoyer - as bipolar as it gets BUT clearly, the playbook is wide open with him and as a, result, the other 10 grow faster.
Taylor - highlighted two weeks ago
Kittle - highlighted this week
Hyde - coaches have seen enough; time to develop Breida
Breida - highlighted this week while Hyde sat
Goodwin - highlighted the past two weeks
T.Brown - highlighted this week in outside zone (our future)
Tartt & Ward - our future
Thomas - learning 3 positions (our future)
Buckner - duh
Armstead - ?
Jones - nice player learning from Mitchell
Robinson - had his best game
Witherspoon - was put in for Dontae but got a concussion
Tank - our future at 6T
Williams - out future
Juice - our future
Foster - our future
Taylor/Bolden/Mostert/Colbert/Nelson/Pinion - our present and future (all studs)

And soon we'll start to see Blair, Pita and maybe BeatHard too at some point.

This is all calculated with targeting and developing the youth. Guys like Bowman, Mitchell, Celek, Garcon, Paulsen, etc. are going to see less and less snaps and in fact, we're already seeing that and that was the plan all along...as it should be!

The fact that we're taking that approach AND staying competitive during system installs, with so much youth and while having the 2nd most players on I.R. is a HUGE testament to our Head Coach.

And kuddos to Kyle for executing the FO plan. It's the right plan for tomorrow.

you fail to see the small picture. we are 0-5 and have too many penalties. that is on the coaches. shanahan sucks.

Originally posted by defenderDX:
Let's get 3 wins to show that we are that much better than Kelly's 2 win team! woooo!

This isn't the NBA. Your #1 pick has a 50% bust ratio. Darnold, Rosen the stats say someone will bet on the wrong horse and you're right back at square 1. Take the Cousins route and go Barkley. See Dalvin Cook. Just 1 injury away from a bust.

Win as many as you can should always be the strategy. Youworry about 2018 in 2018.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
Let's get 3 wins to show that we are that much better than Kelly's 2 win team! woooo!

This isn't the NBA. Your #1 pick has a 50% bust ratio. Darnold, Rosen the stats say someone will bet on the wrong horse and you're right back at square 1. Take the Cousins route and go Barkley. See Dalvin Cook. Just 1 injury away from a bust.

Win as many as you can should always be the strategy. Youworry about 2018 in 2018.

yeah, when it still matters and there is still a point. that's come and gone.

Originally posted by defenderDX:

yeah, when it still matters and there is still a point. that's come and gone.

I'll give you that. I don't want us to pull a Kap and win a meaningless game in week 16. I don't start the year there though.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
Let's get 3 wins to show that we are that much better than Kelly's 2 win team! woooo!

This isn't the NBA. Your #1 pick has a 50% bust ratio. Darnold, Rosen the stats say someone will bet on the wrong horse and you're right back at square 1. Take the Cousins route and go Barkley. See Dalvin Cook. Just 1 injury away from a bust.

Win as many as you can should always be the strategy. Youworry about 2018 in 2018.

USC QB draft picks have been terrible since Palmer.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

yeah, when it still matters and there is still a point. that's come and gone.

I'll give you that. I don't want us to pull a Kap and win a meaningless game in week 16. I don't start the year there though.

yeah nobody does man. it's like you guys must think we want to lose before the season even starts.

headline:

Kyle's Amazing Gameplans Derailed by Inept Players.

I wonder what those anonymous sources are planning if this continues.

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

yeah, when it still matters and there is still a point. that's come and gone.

I'll give you that. I don't want us to pull a Kap and win a meaningless game in week 16. I don't start the year there though.

yeah nobody does man. it's like you guys must think we want to lose before the season even starts.

that win didn't hurt us (hindsight)

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by paulk205:

(a) however is something to talk about. As I wrote in my original email, losing games makes sense if you are developing young talent who will be with you for years when the next great team is assembled.

Nice post Paul.

This is ultimately it for me this year. Lay down two battle tested real NFL schemes (one that can take 3 years to master) and get as many snaps as you can for your young players who will be part of the foundation going forward. I look at individual performances each week within this context.

And most fans are missing it. It's calculated. This is literally an extended pre season designed to install the systems and get the youth up to speed within the systems.

And each week, just like a pre season game, a new player is highlighted:

Hoyer - as bipolar as it gets BUT clearly, the playbook is wide open with him and as a result, the other 10 grow faster.
Taylor - highlighted two weeks ago
Kittle - highlighted this week
Hyde - coaches have seen enough; time to develop Breida
Breida - highlighted this week while Hyde sat
Goodwin - highlighted the past two weeks
T.Brown - highlighted this week in outside zone (our future)
Tartt & Ward - our future
Thomas - learning 3 positions (our future)
Buckner - duh
Armstead - ? but learning 3 positions
Jones - nice player learning from Mitchell
Robinson - had his best game
Witherspoon - was put in for Dontae but got a concussion (our future?)
Tank - our future at 6T
Williams - our future (new contract)
Juice - our future
Foster - our future
Taylor/Bolden/Mostert/Colbert/Nelson/Pinion - our present and future (all studs already)

And soon we'll start to see Blair, Pita and maybe BeatHard too at some point.

This is all calculated with targeting and developing the youth. Guys like Bowman, Mitchell, Celek, Garcon, Paulsen, etc. are going to see less and less snaps and in fact, we're already seeing that and that was the plan all along...as it should be!

The fact that we're taking that approach AND staying competitive during system installs, with so much youth and while having the 2nd most players on I.R. is a HUGE testament to our Head Coach.

Forget the W-L's...this is how you evaluate a rebuild.

And kuddos to Kyle for executing the FO plan. It's the right plan for tomorrow.

This X 1000

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Giants is our only chance for a W

Am I the only person on the planet who thinks we can beat the Cardinals at home? We should have beat them in their house.