49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
pretty much...this was never gonna be a .500 team no way no how.

IF we had slightly better QB play we'd be at least 3-2. people need to focus on individual player grow and see who's got a place on this team for the future. Gotta look past the wins and losses year 1 into a rebuild.

Some of the people complaining, just didn't want Shanny or just like to complain and are getting their "moment" to do it. sad

This. People who were going to complain no matter what happened short of a 16-0 season.

nope. some people just do not see the so called improvement and improved culture of the team that others do and choose to hold the coach responsible for it in large measure. you can slap a label on those people if you want but that is the way it is for many people here

LOL I asked you to give me a detailed analysis of why you think the team is NOT improving and I get a bunch of one liners that tell me nothing.

ok.. i expect more from a mod than a bunch of snark .its almost like you are trying to bait posters like sunny did back in the day.. yesterday you asked and i gave you answers. you can slap a label of one liners on them but thats your problem. i can easily tell you that your blather on why our team is improving so much as you see it. tells me nothing either. this forum is about different opinions. since when did he become popular for mods to just call people out and then attack them when they answer. then you roll out the shock and awe when there are threads in the parking lot in regards to moderators. that deserves a big fat lol

lol so you can't even explain your one liners in detail would have been a better answer than attack Kolohe

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
lol so you can't even explain your one liners in detail would have been a better answer than attack Kolohe

oh,. yes its time to hear from the protectors of the mods. one hand washes the other here. nope. i see the same mistakes and penalties now as i did a month ago. no improvement there and its just not young kids. that goes to the coaches/teachers we have here.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
lol so you can't even explain your one liners in detail would have been a better answer than attack Kolohe

oh,. yes its time to hear from the protectors of the mods. one hand washes the other here. nope. i see the same mistakes and penalties now as i did a month ago. no improvement there and its just not young kids. that goes to the coaches/teachers we have here.

protectors of the Mods ? lol can't stop attacking can you.

its cool if you can't explain what you post, just man up to it

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
pretty much...this was never gonna be a .500 team no way no how.

IF we had slightly better QB play we'd be at least 3-2. people need to focus on individual player grow and see who's got a place on this team for the future. Gotta look past the wins and losses year 1 into a rebuild.

Some of the people complaining, just didn't want Shanny or just like to complain and are getting their "moment" to do it. sad

This. People who were going to complain no matter what happened short of a 16-0 season.

nope. some people just do not see the so called improvement and improved culture of the team that others do and choose to hold the coach responsible for it in large measure. you can slap a label on those people if you want but that is the way it is for many people here

LOL I asked you to give me a detailed analysis of why you think the team is NOT improving and I get a bunch of one liners that tell me nothing.

ok.. i expect more from a mod than a bunch of snark .its almost like you are trying to bait posters like sunny did back in the day.. yesterday you asked and i gave you answers. you can slap a label of one liners on them but thats your problem. i can easily tell you that your blather on why our team is improving so much as you see it. tells me nothing either. this forum is about different opinions. since when did he become popular for mods to just call people out and then attack them when they answer. then you roll out the shock and awe when there are threads in the parking lot in regards to moderators. that deserves a big fat lol

When all else fails bring up the fact that I'm a mod. Asking for a detailed analysis of how the team is NOT improving is snark? I won't even get into the snark you put out on this site save for PM's if you want. You're doing nothing but making this personal, I mean who brings up the Parking Lot (a place I don't even frequent) while discussing football?

Your one liners don't tell me anything, example this is your first one:

1. Bad QB play.

OK Hoyer has played bad, but looked at what Blaine Gabbert and Kaepernick were doing this time last year.....ranked dead last where as Brian Hoyer is currently ranked 13th in passing. Sure he's played bad but he's shown that he can get through his reads, hit receivers down field and check down when needed to. Both gabbert and Kaepernick struggled like no other doing that last season which is why they were ranked 30-32nd in passing week in and week out.

That's not all I wanted to say, but is that so hard then to just throw silly one liners at me? I mean if you're gonna lay blame on the head coach at least help us understand you.

Btw, 49ers offense is currently 22nd, this time last year they were ranked 32nd!!!

How is that NOT improvement?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

pretty much...this was never gonna be a .500 team no way no how.

IF we had slightly better QB play we'd be at least 3-2. people need to focus on individual player grow and see who's got a place on this team for the future. Gotta look past the wins and losses year 1 into a rebuild.

Some of the people complaining, just didn't want Shanny or just like to complain and are getting their "moment" to do it. sad

This. People who were going to complain no matter what happened short of a 16-0 season.

I do not care about the wins and losses.
to be a successful year I want to see, the offense improve to around 20th in pts and yards and the defense to improve to around average, I expect more from the defense because of the immediate benefit of ditching Chip Kelly's defense killing scheme. These two things seem on track.
The big criticism that will remain is the lack of a FQBotF.

I would also like to see KS improve his situational awareness/clock management and for the team to cut down on penalties. I believe there will be improvements in both areas as the season goes on.

The worry about kicking the QB can down the road:
Getting a 30 year old starter while The team has a ways to go before it will be competitive puts the team in competitive mode while the QB is likely in decline.
Waiting to draft a young QB into a system that some takes 3 years to understand puts the young QB into a position where he will hit his stride in the system as players that are acquired today are moving on in FA.
Maybe the best answer is Cousins as a bridge and a 1st round QB to develop.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

pretty much...this was never gonna be a .500 team no way no how.

IF we had slightly better QB play we'd be at least 3-2. people need to focus on individual player grow and see who's got a place on this team for the future. Gotta look past the wins and losses year 1 into a rebuild.

Some of the people complaining, just didn't want Shanny or just like to complain and are getting their "moment" to do it. sad

This. People who were going to complain no matter what happened short of a 16-0 season.

nope. some people just do not see the so called improvement and improved culture of the team that others do and choose to hold the coach responsible for it in large measure. you can slap a label on those people if you want but that is the way it is for many people here

LOL I asked you to give me a detailed analysis of why you think the team is NOT improving and I get a bunch of one liners that tell me nothing.

ok.. i expect more from a mod than a bunch of snark .its almost like you are trying to bait posters like sunny did back in the day.. yesterday you asked and i gave you answers. you can slap a label of one liners on them but thats your problem. i can easily tell you that your blather on why our team is improving so much as you see it. tells me nothing either. this forum is about different opinions. since when did he become popular for mods to just call people out and then attack them when they answer. then you roll out the shock and awe when there are threads in the parking lot in regards to moderators. that deserves a big fat lol

When all else fails bring up the fact that I'm a mod. Asking for a detailed analysis of how the team is NOT improving is snark? I won't even get into the snark you put out on this site save for PM's if you want. You're doing nothing but making this personal, I mean who brings up the Parking Lot (a place I don't even frequent) while discussing football?

Your one liners don't tell me anything, example this is your first one:

1. Bad QB play.

OK Hoyer has played bad, but looked at what Blaine Gabbert and Kaepernick were doing this time last year.....ranked dead last where as Brian Hoyer is currently ranked 13th in passing. Sure he's played bad but he's shown that he can get through his reads, hit receivers down field and check down when needed to. Both gabbert and Kaepernick struggled like no other doing that last season which is why they were ranked 30-32nd in passing week in and week out.

That's not all I wanted to say, but is that so hard then to just throw silly one liners at me? I mean if you're gonna lay blame on the head coach at least help us understand you.

Btw, 49ers offense is currently 22nd, this time last year they were ranked 32nd!!!

How is that NOT improvement?

Hoyer ranks 37th in QB rating. He may be better than Blaine but the bar literally goes no lower. Kap is better than Hoyer.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

When all else fails bring up the fact that I'm a mod. Asking for a detailed analysis of how the team is NOT improving is snark? I won't even get into the snark you put out on this site save for PM's if you want. You're doing nothing but making this personal, I mean who brings up the Parking Lot (a place I don't even frequent) while discussing football?

Your one liners don't tell me anything, example this is your first one:

1. Bad QB play.

OK Hoyer has played bad, but looked at what Blaine Gabbert and Kaepernick were doing this time last year.....ranked dead last where as Brian Hoyer is currently ranked 13th in passing. Sure he's played bad but he's shown that he can get through his reads, hit receivers down field and check down when needed to. Both gabbert and Kaepernick struggled like no other doing that last season which is why they were ranked 30-32nd in passing week in and week out.

That's not all I wanted to say, but is that so hard then to just throw silly one liners at me? I mean if you're gonna lay blame on the head coach at least help us understand you.

Btw, 49ers offense is currently 22nd, this time last year they were ranked 32nd!!!

How is that NOT improvement?

Yep correct. They don't understand about our 49ers offense improved when they are blind and don't understand about football games. Smh.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Hoyer ranks 37th in QB rating. He may be better than Blaine but the bar literally goes no lower. Kap is better than Hoyer.

based on rating ? lol

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Hoyer ranks 37th in QB rating. He may be better than Blaine but the bar literally goes no lower. Kap is better than Hoyer.

QB rating. lol

I'm talking about overall play? Does that rating factor in when Kaepernick passed for 4 yards in Chicago?

Originally posted by Kolohe:
QB rating. lol

I'm talking about overall play? Does that rating factor in when Kaepernick passed for 4 yards in Chicago?

thank god i didnt watch that game

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
QB rating. lol

I'm talking about overall play? Does that rating factor in when Kaepernick passed for 4 yards in Chicago?

thank god i didnt watch that game

I did.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Hoyer ranks 37th in QB rating. He may be better than Blaine but the bar literally goes no lower. Kap is better than Hoyer.

QB rating. lol

I'm talking about overall play? Does that rating factor in when Kaepernick passed for 4 yards in Chicago?

LOL? Are you trying to pass off yards as the only meaningful QB statistic? No need to factor in TDs, INTs, comp%, because total yards really do tell the whole story and never need context.
Hoyer's overall play is terrible and Brian Hoyer is nowhere near the 13th best QB in the NFL this year.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
QB rating. lol

I'm talking about overall play? Does that rating factor in when Kaepernick passed for 4 yards in Chicago?

thank god i didnt watch that game

I did.

i almost went to that game but decided to go to Miami the week before

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Hoyer ranks 37th in QB rating. He may be better than Blaine but the bar literally goes no lower. Kap is better than Hoyer.

based on rating ? lol

What would you base it on?

Why not just call me a liar for posting his QB rank like you did when I pointed out that the 49ers led the league in penalties called? You keep avoiding that one.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Hoyer ranks 37th in QB rating. He may be better than Blaine but the bar literally goes no lower. Kap is better than Hoyer.

QB rating. lol

I'm talking about overall play? Does that rating factor in when Kaepernick passed for 4 yards in Chicago?

LOL? Are you trying to pass off yards as the only meaningful QB statistic? No need to factor in TDs, INTs, comp%, because total yards really do tell the whole story and never need context.
Hoyer's overall play is terrible and Brian Hoyer is nowhere near the 13th best QB in the NFL this year.

so tell us the more of the story of that 4 yard passing day