49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by evil:
How do you know that CJ gives us as good or a better chance ? You don't.

We don't know where CJ sits with the mental aspect of the game, the speed at which it is played at and his knowledge of the offense and scheme. Kyle sees him everyday both on and off of the field, we do not. Hoyer may not be playing too well but that does not mean CJ is hovering around or above Hoyers current level.

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Polkadots:
816, genuine question. Why is it, when speaking of improvement, people cite the historically bad defense last year and compare it to this year (or offense, or scoring differential, etc.)? I have said from the beginning you cannot compare between years because you can't properly isolate all the variables, so any comparison is all but useless. I continually state you have to judge improvement in 2017 on a week to week, game to game basis. And, that basis alone.

I'd agree....I feel some think that this is Year 3 of the Post Harbs rebuild. I do not. This is Year one of a ZBS WCO and a Cover 3 based 43 and I judge based on that. 5 games is too small a sample size for me to make any definitive conclusions. Offense seems to get guys open at a higher rate than the results are showing due to errors and I think the defense is worse than it currents stats say. Personally I give it a whole season and then craft some conclusion. But that's just me.

When I watch the breakdowns done here, I see a lot of missed opportunities on offense. Most on Hoyer, but there are plenty of mistakes to go around.

Why do you believe the defense is worse than the stats suggest? I think some of the inferior offenses they have played masks some glaring weaknesses. And, that may manifest this weekend against Washington.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Again, you continue to list disagreements with what the team made and don't get me wrong, I agree with you some. But you don't think the head coach is on his team about penalties. Here's an example that I say Shanahan is, Shanahan before the season has never got one delay of game penalty in two seasons. Now he has one, because he made it a point to get the call in with time left on the call to give the QB more time to adjust and call audibles. Again, Trent Taylor's OP was not a 50/50 call, it was a straight up horrible call that pretty much cost the game vs. LA. 49ers scored 39 points vs. LA, when was the last time the 49ers scored 30+ points? I'll tell you what it wasn't last year or the year before!!!

But again, tell me how has the team NOT improved, keep in mind it's only week 5 or 6 now I see tons of improvement from last year to this season.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Polkadots:
816, genuine question. Why is it, when speaking of improvement, people cite the historically bad defense last year and compare it to this year (or offense, or scoring differential, etc.)? I have said from the beginning you cannot compare between years because you can't properly isolate all the variables, so any comparison is all but useless. I continually state you have to judge improvement in 2017 on a week to week, game to game basis. And, that basis alone.

I'd agree....I feel some think that this is Year 3 of the Post Harbs rebuild. I do not. This is Year one of a ZBS WCO and a Cover 3 based 43 and I judge based on that. 5 games is too small a sample size for me to make any definitive conclusions. Offense seems to get guys open at a higher rate than the results are showing due to errors and I think the defense is worse than it currents stats say. Personally I give it a whole season and then craft some conclusion. But that's just me.

When I watch the breakdowns done here, I see a lot of missed opportunities on offense. Most on Hoyer, but there are plenty of mistakes to go around.

Why do you believe the defense is worse than the stats suggest? I think some of the inferior offenses they have played masks some glaring weaknesses. And, that may manifest this weekend against Washington.

Current stats say we are one of the worst D's in the League.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Polkadots:
816, genuine question. Why is it, when speaking of improvement, people cite the historically bad defense last year and compare it to this year (or offense, or scoring differential, etc.)? I have said from the beginning you cannot compare between years because you can't properly isolate all the variables, so any comparison is all but useless. I continually state you have to judge improvement in 2017 on a week to week, game to game basis. And, that basis alone.

I'd agree....I feel some think that this is Year 3 of the Post Harbs rebuild. I do not. This is Year one of a ZBS WCO and a Cover 3 based 43 and I judge based on that. 5 games is too small a sample size for me to make any definitive conclusions. Offense seems to get guys open at a higher rate than the results are showing due to errors and I think the defense is worse than it currents stats say. Personally I give it a whole season and then craft some conclusion. But that's just me.

When I watch the breakdowns done here, I see a lot of missed opportunities on offense. Most on Hoyer, but there are plenty of mistakes to go around.

Why do you believe the defense is worse than the stats suggest? I think some of the inferior offenses they have played masks some glaring weaknesses. And, that may manifest this weekend against Washington.

Current stats say we are one of the worst D's in the League.

Originally posted by acrownlessking:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
the only person here that is whining has been you by repeating yourself in every post keep clinging to "we were told". like move on jesus christ

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Did he get to you that bad? lol

He won.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Again, you continue to list disagreements with what the team made and don't get me wrong, I agree with you some. But you don't think the head coach is on his team about penalties. Here's an example that I say Shanahan is, Shanahan before the season has never got one delay of game penalty in two seasons. Now he has one, because he made it a point to get the call in with time left on the call to give the QB more time to adjust and call audibles. Again, Trent Taylor's OP was not a 50/50 call, it was a straight up horrible call that pretty much cost the game vs. LA. 49ers scored 39 points vs. LA, when was the last time the 49ers scored 30+ points? I'll tell you what it wasn't last year or the year before!!!

But again, tell me how has the team NOT improved, keep in mind it's only week 5 or 6 now I see tons of improvement from last year to this season.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Again, you continue to list disagreements with what the team made and don't get me wrong, I agree with you some. But you don't think the head coach is on his team about penalties. Here's an example that I say Shanahan is, Shanahan before the season has never got one delay of game penalty in two seasons. Now he has one, because he made it a point to get the call in with time left on the call to give the QB more time to adjust and call audibles. Again, Trent Taylor's OP was not a 50/50 call, it was a straight up horrible call that pretty much cost the game vs. LA. 49ers scored 39 points vs. LA, when was the last time the 49ers scored 30+ points? I'll tell you what it wasn't last year or the year before!!!

But again, tell me how has the team NOT improved, keep in mind it's only week 5 or 6 now I see tons of improvement from last year to this season.

i respect you and those who see what i do not. i do need to get new glasses next week.maybe that will help.

Originally posted by defenderDX:
the only person here that is whining has been you by repeating yourself in every post keep clinging to "we were told". like move on jesus christ

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

When I watch the breakdowns done here, I see a lot of missed opportunities on offense. Most on Hoyer, but there are plenty of mistakes to go around.

Why do you believe the defense is worse than the stats suggest? I think some of the inferior offenses they have played masks some glaring weaknesses. And, that may manifest this weekend against Washington.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
cc was spouting the same stuff a year ago only with the opposite opinion and Donnie loved it. Now he has to put cc on block. lol love it.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
cc was spouting the same stuff a year ago only with the opposite opinion and Donnie loved it. Now he has to put cc on block. lol love it.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by cciowa:

oh. to the mod and others.. i have no time for anyone to try to humanize hoyer by telling me he is the 13tth best. proof that staley and his stats are for losers comments rings true. quik stats is not the true measure of a player. it may help you to try to prove ones point of view.

no one is telling you he's 13th best. i guess you will bring this up on Monday how all you hear is Hoyer being the 13th best QB lol

Someone posted the following:
Brian Hoyer is currently ranked 13th in passing

He is not ranked 13th in passing, unless you think interceptions, completion percentage and TDs are not part of "passing".

all it takes is a quick look and that person meant yards, CC said 13th best. no one said he is 13th best

The person meant to pass off the yards ranking as overall passing ranking.
I believe passer rating is a much better measure for a passer than passing yards alone but you and Kohole find that idea laughable.

one stat like you said is not the whole story, but here you are trying to pass off one stat