49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
The bolded ignores the chargers loading the box to stop the run (although still not being able to until red zone) which, in theory, should have opened up more passing lanes.

it's ok to be a little inquisitive about a couple hiccups on our offense. Per usual, we are rushing to defend Kyle/Jimmy in order to blame Jimmy/Kyle.

More than anything, I'm happy we won. That's my thesis statement. But, I have a couple concerns.

Teams have been stacking the box for 5+ yrs. That's nothing new. Mitchell was still getting like 5 yards per carry.

I got no problem discussing some hiccups, but people (after a W) saying kyle blows and is a problem…is imo, being dramatic as all hell.

my issue is the RZ offense. We're 16th overall, they're basically tied with Baltimore. That's gotta improve.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Aww come on you were defending him this off-season

Yeah he ain't it lol. Hopefully they look elsewhere in the off season

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Well, I do think there's context to consider. I've got a couple concerns about our playcalling, or lack of execution. I'm not sure which one until I see the breakdowns

That's fair. I'm going off the live game. For me it's tough to s**t on play calling until the all-22 can be shown. The running game was pretty effective imo. Jimmy made some good 3rd down conversions. I do think we shoot ourselves in the foot with s**tty execution (missed extra pt, dropped easy TD, blown block, blocked punt etc)

Not sure of the RZ issues is bad play calling, poor reads/execution? I'm sure it's a mixture of both play-to-play.

So people are complaining about Kyle's offense after SF almost gained 400 yards. They were 2 of 5 in the red zone with an Aiyuk dropped TD, a Mitchell fall and a missed block

Originally posted by niners94:
He's holding this team back by being so stubborn and conservative. Open it up and be aggressive. It's an all star offense but he's treating them like the 2017 Niners.

He doesn't know what aggressive is.. his offense is a GIMMICK type of offense.. it's design to get the ball to the ONE target and when the guy is covered, QB done !!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Well, I do think there's context to consider. I've got a couple concerns about our playcalling, or lack of execution. I'm not sure which one until I see the breakdowns

That's fair. I'm going off the live game. For me it's tough to s**t on play calling until the all-22 can be shown. The running game was pretty effective imo. Jimmy made some good 3rd down conversions. I do think we shoot ourselves in the foot with s**tty execution (missed extra pt, dropped easy TD, blown block, blocked punt etc)

Not sure of the RZ issues is bad play calling, poor reads/execution? I'm sure it's a mixture of both play-to-play.

im not really worried about those low execution plays you talked about because all those are low% plays and easily fixable.

i disagree about the run game however i agree with gameplan everyone here did too. Everyone was calling to attack them by running because thats where the chargers are weakest but i feel they did a great job defending it and the running efficiency was poor and Jimmy bailed us out.

As for RZ offense.
The first one was a straight up FG we didnt convert inside the 10 ( i think we got it to the 2)
We had an Aiyuk TD drop that turned into a FG
Last one that was a FG was at the end of the game obviously goal was to get a TD but the primary goal was to run out the clock so we weren't super aggressive

i do agree RZ offense could be better but i think with that Aiyuk TD we dont really talk about RZ being an issue

Originally posted by NYniner85:
So people are complaining about Kyle's offense after SF almost gained 400 yards. They were 2 of 5 in the red zone with an Aiyuk dropped TD, a Mitchell fall and a missed block

I've been saying since last night this game was close cause of f**k ups not Kyle.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Well, I do think there's context to consider. I've got a couple concerns about our playcalling, or lack of execution. I'm not sure which one until I see the breakdowns

That's fair. I'm going off the live game. For me it's tough to s**t on play calling until the all-22 can be shown. The running game was pretty effective imo. Jimmy made some good 3rd down conversions. I do think we shoot ourselves in the foot with s**tty execution (missed extra pt, dropped easy TD, blown block, blocked punt etc)

Not sure of the RZ issues is bad play calling, poor reads/execution? I'm sure it's a mixture of both play-to-play.

11 2nd and longs in just 10 possessions. That's as predictable as it comes. That's also the OL not overcoming that either. It's both. Either way, it puts you in even more predictable situations going forward and makes life very hard on the passing game to overcome esp. against a good secondary and pass rush (Mike McGlinchey).

I listed all the other HCing issues that continue to be a major theme here under Kyle. That starts and ends with him and these will persist long after Jimmy is gone. That's my real concern.

We don't need the film for those.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Kyle the playcaller has definitely fallen off without Mike McDaniel.

My far bigger concerns are Kyle the HC. But nobody wants to acknowledge those issues and those are the ones that really cost games, IMHO.

BEEN tellin you ALL he sucks.. he's not a HC.. just look how quiet his SHANANIGANS got...

They don't even post how GREAT of a coach he is..

Originally posted by NYniner85:
So people are complaining about Kyle's offense after SF almost gained 400 yards. They were 2 of 5 in the red zone with an Aiyuk dropped TD, a Mitchell fall and a missed block

Yeah it's pretty ridiculous in here right about now. Haven't seen the forum act this disgruntled over a loss where someone didn't get injured since Az at home in 2019

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Well, I do think there's context to consider. I've got a couple concerns about our playcalling, or lack of execution. I'm not sure which one until I see the breakdowns

That's fair. I'm going off the live game. For me it's tough to s**t on play calling until the all-22 can be shown. The running game was pretty effective imo. Jimmy made some good 3rd down conversions. I do think we shoot ourselves in the foot with s**tty execution (missed extra pt, dropped easy TD, blown block, blocked punt etc)

Not sure of the RZ issues is bad play calling, poor reads/execution? I'm sure it's a mixture of both play-to-play.

11 2nd and longs in just 10 possessions. That's as predictable as it comes. That's also the OL not overcoming that either. It's both. Either way, it puts you in even more predictable situations going forward and makes life very hard on the passing game to overcome esp. against a good secondary and pass rush (Mike McGlinchey).

I listed all the other HCing issues that continue to be a major theme here under Kyle. That starts and ends with him and these will persist long after Jimmy is gone. That's my real concern.

We don't need the film for those.

you are going to have to explain why we are a top 5 team in moving the ball (yards/play) if playcalling is predictable

Originally posted by NYniner85:
So people are complaining about Kyle's offense after SF almost gained 400 yards. They were 2 of 5 in the red zone with an Aiyuk dropped TD, a Mitchell fall and a missed block

We're complaining because our offense had to come from behind in the 4th quarter vs a JV caliber defense full of 3rd stringers. Yea sure we gained 400 yards on offense but context is everything. A 200 yard day on offense with a 30 point blowout vs a hobbled team would've been the expectation.

but with Kyle it's all about spin tactics. Until the pattern rears it's ugly head in the playoffs, then the masses are left wondering, hmmm what changed ?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Of course you do. It's Monday morning interference.

Of course you would think McDainels is the mastermind and Kyle the HC is a concern

Just compare the offenses. This is shannys baby after 6 f**king years.

Wilson looking 10x better in the Dolphins offense. Take the blinders off.

You'll never hear players here say Kyle Shanahan is calling plays like it's Madden.

I call them players and fans SHANANIGANS...

I wonder if guys like NY and Hysterikal will follow Shanahan to whichever team he ends up with when he's fired (which it's not going to happen as soon as I'd like to, I know).

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I've been saying since last night this game was close cause of f**k ups not Kyle.

The opposition had plenty of "f..k ups* too though. They had some key drops that would have mostly put the game out of reach before the half. It was a poorly coached game offensive wise.