49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I've been saying since last night this game was close cause of f**k ups not Kyle.

The opposition had plenty of "f..k ups* too though. They had some key drops that would have mostly put the game out of reach before the half. It was a poorly coached game offensive wise.

Yeah that Chargers TE dropping a walk in TD was a huge break. I think Everett or McKitty had a huge 3rd down drop. It's like players executing is the real issues not coaches who put their players in chances to make plays.

If it is the play I think it was. That was a poorly thrown ball that barely hit him on his finger tips. It would have taken a crazy effort to haul that one in.

Yeah the replay showed the ball was a bit overthrown but that's still a catchable ball.

Salty Monday for beating the first playoff team we've faced this year (other than SEA before they started figuring it out).

Herbert was playing outstanding to start. Their run defense was playing well above expected. And we had 2 turnover worthy plays to zero in the first half.

Originally posted by DrEll:
We're complaining because our offense had to come from behind in the 4th quarter vs a JV caliber defense full of 3rd stringers. Yea sure we gained 400 yards on offense but context is everything. A 200 yard day on offense with a 30 point blowout vs a hobbled team would've been the expectation.

but with Kyle it's all about spin tactics. Until the pattern rears it's ugly head in the playoffs, then the masses are left wondering, hmmm what changed ?

The DL was short starters, not the secondary. Their pass D is top 10 in the league…so stop being dramatic. A ton of their injuries are on the offensive side.

you just bypass the second part of that fact…2-5 in the RZ which was based off a drop, blown block and Mitchell slip. That's player execution, not play calling which you're complaining about (not even seeing the all-22 yet lol).

You don't get to blame spin tactics or whatever crap you're talking about…when you can't even talk about the game contextually.

lol yeah the playoffs. What's the common issue there over the past couple years? No way could it be QB play lol. My god enjoy the win and go have a coffee or something. Typical complain to complain in here.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
The opposition had plenty of "f..k ups* too though. They had some key drops that would have mostly put the game out of reach before the half. It was a poorly coached game offensive wise.

Put up almost 400 yards… was a blown block, Mitchell slip and BA drop in the RZ from adding another 12 pts. That's not coaching, that's player execution my dude. Sounds like you want every play to be a walk in TD 😝

that goes both ways... LAC had some of that as well.. HOW do you explain that we had to catch up to beat the team w/o 65% of their starters and a 2nd year HC (if not mistaken)..

This is no different than last year's loss to Arizona w/a sorry life long backup..

Originally posted by NCommand:
It worked because two more IDL's went down in-game. Down in the 4Q, that verifies the GP isn't working. It wasn't hard for the DC to see what we were trying to accomplish early in the game. 1st downs. RZ offense. Had Jimmy not made those crucial 3rd downs we're singing a whole new tone in here. That's a team that's going to beat us in AGL this year. It seems like the W is masking real issues here.

It worked because they suck at stopping the run. The RZ offense had a blown block, dropped easy TD and a Mitchell slip. That's player execution.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ritz126:
you are going to have to explain why we are a top 5 team in moving the ball (yards/play) if playcalling is predictable

We're #1 in DVOA too. That's the least of the concerns here. You have no concerns with Kyle the OC and Kyle the HC? The goal is to try to win a Superbowl, right?

The gameplan going into the game was to attack where the opponent was weakest.

For the rams thats the midle of the field they have a below average LB corps and they play off coverage so the goal that game was to attack with quick releases which is why the gameplan against Rams was more aggressive.

The chargers are weak at run D so thats where we attacked

so the answer to your question is no i dont have a problem because KS is attacking the weakness of opposing D. To chargers credit they defended the run better than anyone thought

It worked because two more IDL's went down in-game. Down in the 4Q, that verifies the GP isn't working. It wasn't hard for the DC to see what we were trying to accomplish early in the game. 1st downs. RZ offense. Had Jimmy not made those crucial 3rd downs we're singing a whole new tone in here. That's a team that's going to beat us in AGL this year. It seems like the W is masking real issues here.

Remember NC, you got all worked up about the HaRoman offense and raved about how snappy the offense looked under Geep Chryst in week 1, 2015.

Not meaning to pull receipts, just putting context in to the grass is greener idea. The offense is rebuilding everything. It's completely different than what was anticipated and worked on 100 days ago.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Well, I do think there's context to consider. I've got a couple concerns about our playcalling, or lack of execution. I'm not sure which one until I see the breakdowns

That's fair. I'm going off the live game. For me it's tough to s**t on play calling until the all-22 can be shown. The running game was pretty effective imo. Jimmy made some good 3rd down conversions. I do think we shoot ourselves in the foot with s**tty execution (missed extra pt, dropped easy TD, blown block, blocked punt etc)

Not sure of the RZ issues is bad play calling, poor reads/execution? I'm sure it's a mixture of both play-to-play.

11 2nd and longs in just 10 possessions. That's as predictable as it comes. That's also the OL not overcoming that either. It's both. Either way, it puts you in even more predictable situations going forward and makes life very hard on the passing game to overcome esp. against a good secondary and pass rush (Mike McGlinchey).

I listed all the other HCing issues that continue to be a major theme here under Kyle. That starts and ends with him and these will persist long after Jimmy is gone. That's my real concern.

We don't need the film for those.

you are going to have to explain why we are a top 5 team in moving the ball (yards/play) if playcalling is predictable

Because Jimmy thrives in third and longs 🤣🤣

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Because Jimmy thrives in third and longs 🤣🤣

He nailed a 3rd and 10 with LAC sending the house to BA set up our TD

Originally posted by 9moon:
that goes both ways... LAC had some of that as well.. HOW do you explain that we had to catch up to beat the team w/o 65% of their starters and a 2nd year HC (if not mistaken)..

This is no different than last year's loss to Arizona w/a sorry life long backup..

That's fine and has nothing to do with SF's offense. Which is what we're talking about. That's player execution not play calling.

you think the play call to a wide open BA was to drop the ball? Or Gould missing an extra point? Never seen a play call that called for Mitchell to slip on the 1 yard line (running behind Trent) or a blown block on the two yard line for a CMC TD?

ya'll act like a 5-3 chargers team that is top 10 vs the pass…blows? Most of their injuries are on the offensive side on the ball. It's funny if they didn't run for 160 yards vs the 29th ranked offense YOU would be the first person in here b***hing…yet here you are. Not one single objective bone in your body.

Originally posted by 9moon:
that goes both ways... LAC had some of that as well.. HOW do you explain that we had to catch up to beat the team w/o 65% of their starters and a 2nd year HC (if not mistaken)..

This is no different than last year's loss to Arizona w/a sorry life long backup..

how do you explain that the chiefs had to catch up to the titans without their starting QB and had to win it on OT?

is Reid a bad coach too?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Because Jimmy thrives in third and longs 🤣🤣

He nailed a 3rd and 10 with LAC sending the house to BA set up our TD

He should! Good QB play kills blitzes. Unfortunately that's not super consistent with him. Overall though I thought Jimmy did his job and guess what we won.

No more naked bootlegs into top linebackers in the league please.

Originally posted by Hawaii49er:
No more naked bootlegs into top linebackers in the league please.

I agree with this statement

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
that goes both ways... LAC had some of that as well.. HOW do you explain that we had to catch up to beat the team w/o 65% of their starters and a 2nd year HC (if not mistaken)..

This is no different than last year's loss to Arizona w/a sorry life long backup..

That's fine and has nothing to do with SF's offense. Which is what we're talking about. That's player execution not play calling.

you think the play call to a wide open BA was to drop the ball? Or Gould missing an extra point? Never seen a play call that called for Mitchell to slip on the 1 yard line (running behind Trent) or a blown block on the two yard line for a CMC TD?

ya'll act like a 5-3 chargers team that is top 10 vs the pass…blows? Most of their injuries are on the offensive side on the ball. It's funny if they didn't run for 160 yards vs the 29th ranked offense YOU would be the first person in here b***hing…yet here you are. Not one single objective bone in your body.

IT DOESNNNTTT MATTTTERRRR if you got lots of objective bones in your body.. .what matter is that we aren't as good as we could be because of your HC !!

75% of the SHANANIGANS are now seeing that, why don't you?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
He should! Good QB play kills blitzes. Unfortunately that's not super consistent with him. Overall though I thought Jimmy did his job and guess what we won.

you also need good OL to kill a blitz as long as they are no free rushers up the middle then QB should be able to do its job