49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I thought of another issue that I may have with Kyle. Obviously I'm not in the locker room so I don't know what he says to the team before the game or during halftime. It seems that sometimes this team doesn't look fired up and ready to play. So many games stay close all game long when they should be putting teams away.

I look at Pete Carroll and I have to say that his teams always look ready to play. He's not an play callling guru but he gets his teams ready. He did that at USC and still does it in Seattle even when his talent isn't great.

The Seahawks were down 21-3 to the Bucs late in the game yesterday.

One game played in Germany. That's hardly a representable sample of Pete's coaching career. Even yesterday, he got them back in the game after halftime.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Games usually don't go as most expect it, that's usually how the NFL works. If you're looking for more blowouts and style points go watch College

Funny thing is SF covers if Gould hits that extra point.

Weird. The way some are acting is that the 49ers lost and the Chargers are as bad as the Texans

We underperformed expectations and so people are going to react negatively. The way people feel after a game isn't based just on what happened in that particular game, but also on what it says about the team's chances going forward. This team has Super Bowl aspirations, but right now they look exactly like you'd expect a 5-4 team to look.

Every week is different. One week a team can look like world beaters the next they can fall flat to an inferior opponent . It's part of football, I just assumed anyone with common knowledge for the game knew this. How you play in November will have zero impact on any team come January outside of seeding.

49ers got a win when they didn't necessarily play their best for a majority of the game, turns out that it's hard to beat good teams even when they may be dealing with injuries, who would've known 😨. hopefully they execute better in the redzone going forward, that was my biggest issue coming out of that game.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
He needs to let go and just let these guys play. It is very hard to win a SB while trying to hide your QB. Even Foles and Flacco had to be trusted to play at a high level to get their rings. Jimmy is either going to go on a run or we're not going to win a SB.

We have too many weapons for this playing scared s**t. Grow some balls. Being aggressive doesn't always work, but playing scared never does.

Foles and Flacco had much better all-levels passing ability.

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Hawaii49er:
No more naked bootlegs into top linebackers in the league please.

but that's 60% of KS10 play design.. he got this from Daddy Mike when he had The Snake in Denver..

I dont know if you guys understand but that sort of stuff sets up other plays. If teams keep doing that you hand it off and have the back cut to that side for a huge gain.

it definitely set up a 2nd and super long, I do know that 🤣🤣

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Koldo:
I wonder if guys like NY and Hysterikal will follow Shanahan to whichever team he ends up with when he's fired (which it's not going to be as soon as I'd like to, I know).

you want to fire a coach who got us deep into the playoffs every time he has had a healthy QB?

I see why people call us whiners

Yeah, firing is extreme. Improving on some clear patterns, that's another thing.

Has Shanahan ever changed anything about his coaching/playcalling style?

Have you seen actual improvements on the offensive side? Cause I've seen the same sloppy, undisciplined, predictable team week in week out.

The "lessons learned" concept is non-existent to Shanahan. He's arrogant and stubborn and only want things done his way no matter how many times he fails.

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Games usually don't go as most expect it, that's usually how the NFL works. If you're looking for more blowouts and style points go watch College

Funny thing is SF covers if Gould hits that extra point.

Weird. The way some are acting is that the 49ers lost and the Chargers are as bad as the Texans

We underperformed expectations and so people are going to react negatively. The way people feel after a game isn't based just on what happened in that particular game, but also on what it says about the team's chances going forward. This team has Super Bowl aspirations, but right now they look exactly like you'd expect a 5-4 team to look.

Every week is different. One week a team can look like world beaters the next they can fall flat to an inferior opponent . It's part of football, I just assumed anyone with common knowledge for the game knew this

49ers got a win when they didn't necessarily play their best for a majority of the game, turns out that it's hard to beat good teams even when they may be dealing with injuries, who would've known 😨. hopefully they execute better in the redzone going forward, that was my biggest issue coming out of that game.

I think what has some fans bothered (including me) is everyone had the Niners winning thus game easily. The Chargers run defense is the worst in the league and their defensive line is beat to pulp. The 49ers ran well but they averaged about a yard less per carry than the Chargers had been giving up. The Niners had 8 players coming back from injuries including 3 starters. They had an extra week to prepare nad come uo with ways to use CMC.

All that and still the game was close. I hate to think what it would have looked like if Herbert had all his receivers and their defense wan't so beat up.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
We underperformed expectations and so people are going to react negatively. The way people feel after a game isn't based just on what happened in that particular game, but also on what it says about the team's chances going forward. This team has Super Bowl aspirations, but right now they look exactly like you'd expect a 5-4 team to look.

Expectations are subjective. Mine is just win. Someone else's might be win by 20 pts apparently. Now we're talking about the spread to justify what's a "good win" like I said Gould hits that extra pt we cover.

Football season is long. I don't see really any team that looks like a Super Bowl squad overall.

Now it's my turn for a rant style hot take!



KS doesn't know a FQB if one is slapping him in the face.

This is the entire issue folks. The one guy who can solve the problem and get a Franchise Quarterback.. he is 6 years in with zero to show in that regard. Let us count the QBs he's missed, Stafford, Hurts, Allen, Mahomes, Brady he passed on all these guys.. do we add Fields to the list? it's why he's sub .500.

The best he has done in 6 years at that position is Jimmy G. Let that sink in.

YOU KNOW IT
AND I KNOW IT

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
With the amount of talent that we have on offense, there really is no excuse for this team to not score at least 30-35 PPG.

Isn't a team scoring over 30 pts per game in the league. It all starts at the QB.

I do agree they should score more. RZ execution is the problem and there's a lot of nuance with that.

This is what I said to myself last night, but avoided posting because I'm too amped up on game days lol

Here's my 24 hour reaction

Kyles play calling was s**t at times. And other times fantastic.

Jimmy had some high throws as usual, but no bad throws tbh and overall was very good I'm happy to say. (I hope Furlow sees this lol) I mean Aiyuk dropped a great TD pass.

The main issue yesterday aside some play calling was on critical plays, someone on the o-line had a mistake or was plain beat and it killed drives and points for us. McGlinchey is so anti clutch it's infuriating!

Within the play calling I cannot believe how little Kittle and Deebo were used in the passing game.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Now it's my turn for a rant style hot take!



KS doesn't know a FQB if one is slapping him in the face.

This is the entire issue folks. The one guy who can solve the problem and get a Franchise Quarterback.. he is 6 years in with zero to show in that regard. Let us count the QBs he's missed, Stafford, Hurts, Allen, Mahomes, Brady he passed on all these guys.. do we add Fields to the list? it's why he's sub .500.

The best he has done in 6 years at that position is Jimmy G. Let that sink in.

YOU KNOW IT
AND I KNOW IT

Hahahaha

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Now it's my turn for a rant style hot take!



KS doesn't know a FQB if one is slapping him in the face.

This is the entire issue folks. The one guy who can solve the problem and get a Franchise Quarterback.. he is 6 years in with zero to show in that regard. Let us count the QBs he's missed, Stafford, Hurts, Allen, Mahomes, Brady he passed on all these guys.. do we add Fields to the list? it's why he's sub .500.

The best he has done in 6 years at that position is Jimmy G. Let that sink in.

YOU KNOW IT
AND I KNOW IT

Well in fairness to Kyle - he traded for Lance and Lance was the starter. jimmy G ended up being the back up unexpectedly and then Lance was lost for the year. I can't blame Kyle for that aside running Lance way to much lol

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
With the amount of talent that we have on offense, there really is no excuse for this team to not score at least 30-35 PPG.

Isn't a team scoring over 30 pts per game in the league. It all starts at the QB.

I do agree they should score more. RZ execution is the problem and there's a lot of nuance with that.

This is what I said to myself last night, but avoided posting because I'm too amped up on game days lol

Here's my 24 hour reaction

Kyles play calling was s**t at times. And other times fantastic.

Jimmy had some high throws as usual, but no bad throws tbh and overall was very good I'm happy to say. (I hope Furlow sees this lol) I mean Aiyuk dropped a great TD pass.

The main issue yesterday aside some play calling was on critical plays, someone on the o-line had a mistake or was plain beat and it killed drives and points for us. McGlinchey is so anti clutch it's infuriating!

Within the play calling I cannot believe how little Kittle and Deebo were used in the passing game.

Bye-week:
"How are you going to cover all these guys?"

Post-LAC:
"LAC did a great job shutting Deebo, Kittle, CMC, Mitchell, Juice, etc."

Anyhow, the W helps. We're still on track for the playoffs. Just keep self-scouting and try to correct the little things that continue to lead to us shooting ourselves in the foot still.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Well in fairness to Kyle - he traded for Lance and Lance was the starter. jimmy G ended up being the back up unexpectedly and then Lance was lost for the year. I can't blame Kyle for that aside running Lance way to much lol

Is Lance a FQB? No, he is a TBD

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Games usually don't go as most expect it, that's usually how the NFL works. If you're looking for more blowouts and style points go watch College

Funny thing is SF covers if Gould hits that extra point.

Weird. The way some are acting is that the 49ers lost and the Chargers are as bad as the Texans

We underperformed expectations and so people are going to react negatively. The way people feel after a game isn't based just on what happened in that particular game, but also on what it says about the team's chances going forward. This team has Super Bowl aspirations, but right now they look exactly like you'd expect a 5-4 team to look.

Every week is different. One week a team can look like world beaters the next they can fall flat to an inferior opponent . It's part of football, I just assumed anyone with common knowledge for the game knew this

49ers got a win when they didn't necessarily play their best for a majority of the game, turns out that it's hard to beat good teams even when they may be dealing with injuries, who would've known 😨. hopefully they execute better in the redzone going forward, that was my biggest issue coming out of that game.

I think what has some fans bothered (including me) is everyone had the Niners winning thus game easily. The Chargers run defense is the worst in the league and their defensive line is beat to pulp. The 49ers ran well but they averaged about a yard less per carry than the Chargers had been giving up. The Niners had 8 players coming back from injuries including 3 starters. They had an extra week to prepare nad come uo with ways to use CMC.

All that and still the game was close. I hate to think what it would have looked like if Herbert had all his receivers and their defense wan't so beat up.

49ers rushed for 157 but that wasn't good enough because they earned a yard less than other teams that play the Chargers…boo hoo . Despite that it was still good enough to win the game. If the 49ers would've won 42-3 fans would still be complaining, probably worried that the team is "peaking too soon". If you want to critic the team about where you would like them to improve on that's fine, but everyone ready to fire Shanahan like they just lost to the Texans is some of the worst overreactions I've ever seen on here.

Everyone was ready to hand the Bills the Lombardi trophy now they're sitting at 3rd in their own division. Point is who cares How pretty or ugly it looks as long as you win?!, turns out the Chargers are still a pretty good team. This team still has plenty of time to figure things out for the playoffas long as they keep winning and staying healthy

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Now it's my turn for a rant style hot take!



KS doesn't know a FQB if one is slapping him in the face.

This is the entire issue folks. The one guy who can solve the problem and get a Franchise Quarterback.. he is 6 years in with zero to show in that regard. Let us count the QBs he's missed, Stafford, Hurts, Allen, Mahomes, Brady he passed on all these guys.. do we add Fields to the list? it's why he's sub .500.

The best he has done in 6 years at that position is Jimmy G. Let that sink in.

YOU KNOW IT
AND I KNOW IT

I don't necessarily disagree with your take but he didn't pass on Stafford. He got beat to the punch. Allen came into the league pretty raw and so did Hurts. So saying he passed on those 2 as if they were a shoe in as FQB's is disingenuous. He did pass on Brady and Mahomes though and he has yet to hit on a QB selection.