49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by dj43:
I just watched a short interview with Jeff Saturday in which he basically said, "I just told the guys to go out and play football. You are all pros and know what you should be doing." It worked. After all the chaos of the past two weeks and an underperforming season, and despite some key injuries, the Colts went out and played above expectations.

I bring that up in this thread because I believe the offense under Shanahan is playing too tight. They need to feel enabled to just go out and play the game without having to face Shanahan's well-documented potty mouth when things go wrong.

It shouldn't be this hard. With all this talent, things should look better.

Meh. I don't buy that or Saturday. They put in a better QB and played an awful Vegas team.

Overall I don't see some uber complex offense here. It's a lot of stuff they've been running for years. Guys get to run choice routes. Jimmy can audible. It's not long drawn out routes or 5/7 step drop backs. Catch the ball and go be you basically.

We got some young guys, players coming back from injury or having to play more snaps then perviously. Guys are learning as they go. Much like a lot of teams right now

I don't think Saturday is a long-term solution but we will see about that.

My point is that there comes a time when a team is struggling and loosening things up a bit allows them to just play instead of think and good things happen.

Yes, putting Ryan back in was the correct move and it also contributes to a looser environment where the veteran QB instills confidence the struggling rookie could not.

LV is not a bad team. They just have a bad HC that is now failing again. McDaniel has lost that team and I couldn't be more pleased. I feel bad for Carr because he will likely be the scapegoat. He is a better player than he has shown this season but it is what it is.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by dj43:
I just watched a short interview with Jeff Saturday in which he basically said, "I just told the guys to go out and play football. You are all pros and know what you should be doing." It worked. After all the chaos of the past two weeks and an underperforming season, and despite some key injuries, the Colts went out and played above expectations.

I bring that up in this thread because I believe the offense under Shanahan is playing too tight. They need to feel enabled to just go out and play the game without having to face Shanahan's well-documented potty mouth when things go wrong.

It shouldn't be this hard. With all this talent, things should look better.

The Tomsula and Singletary approach to coaching.

"Just play better!"

That wasn't the point at all. It was about allowing the players to feel more relaxed without the constant fear of mistakes. There is a difference.

I don't know if there is enough fear of mistakes. For example, Greenlaw we blasted him week 1 for his dumb fouls and now he's getting ejected, still doing it. No grabbing that guy as HC and saying look we can't have dumb stuff that is costing the team yards. We don't correct the dumb stuff is what I am seeing.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by dj43:
I just watched a short interview with Jeff Saturday in which he basically said, "I just told the guys to go out and play football. You are all pros and know what you should be doing." It worked. After all the chaos of the past two weeks and an underperforming season, and despite some key injuries, the Colts went out and played above expectations.

I bring that up in this thread because I believe the offense under Shanahan is playing too tight. They need to feel enabled to just go out and play the game without having to face Shanahan's well-documented potty mouth when things go wrong.

It shouldn't be this hard. With all this talent, things should look better.

The Tomsula and Singletary approach to coaching.

"Just play better!"

That wasn't the point at all. It was about allowing the players to feel more relaxed without the constant fear of mistakes. There is a difference.

That may work for a few games but over time that laid back attitude will create a losing culture.

"Do your job." (but you don't have to, just a suggestion. If you can't, no worries).

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by dj43:
I just watched a short interview with Jeff Saturday in which he basically said, "I just told the guys to go out and play football. You are all pros and know what you should be doing." It worked. After all the chaos of the past two weeks and an underperforming season, and despite some key injuries, the Colts went out and played above expectations.

I bring that up in this thread because I believe the offense under Shanahan is playing too tight. They need to feel enabled to just go out and play the game without having to face Shanahan's well-documented potty mouth when things go wrong.

It shouldn't be this hard. With all this talent, things should look better.

The Tomsula and Singletary approach to coaching.

"Just play better!"

That wasn't the point at all. It was about allowing the players to feel more relaxed without the constant fear of mistakes. There is a difference.

That may work for a few games but over time that laid back attitude will create a losing culture.

There is a difference between allowing a tight team to relax and being laid back. Tony Dungy was laid back but he also read his players well. He never screamed or yelled at his players. He made sure each player felt they had an important role on the team and they were respected. He had star players but they did not get special treatment. He won a Super Bowl with that approach.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Actively trying?.. yes

Does he have a confirmed FQB?.. no.

Are we 6 years in?.. yes.

I would expect a offensive minded genius to get that position right in less than 6 years. For a comp, Andy Reid got the position solved before his first game as HC. He drafted McNabb before he coached a single game, and developed him to be much better than he was on draft day.

How long do we give KS to figure it out? 10 years?

McVay didn't get his until last yr and even that is looking meh. Andy Reid wasn't the GM bro. Stop acting like he was the guy who just hand picked McNabb or Mahomes and no one else played a part in it. He didn't win it all until he got Mahomes. Kyle has won plenty of games with Jimmy (who they did get year 1). We all know why he didn't draft someone that first yr.

McNabb developed into a sub 60% passer lol.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Actively trying?.. yes

Does he have a confirmed FQB?.. no.

Are we 6 years in?.. yes.

I would expect a offensive minded genius to get that position right in less than 6 years. For a comp, Andy Reid got the position solved before his first game as HC. He drafted McNabb before he coached a single game, and developed him to be much better than he was on draft day.

How long do we give KS to figure it out? 10 years?

McVay didn't get his until last yr and even that is looking meh. Andy Reid wasn't the GM bro. Stop acting like he was the guy who just hand picked McNabb or Mahomes and no one else played a part in it. He didn't win it all until he got Mahomes. Kyle has won plenty of games with Jimmy (who they did get year 1). We all know why he didn't draft someone that first yr.

McNabb developed into a sub 60% passer lol.

Who is our GM picking the offensive guys? You got at the heart of the issue. Reid had GMs setting himself up with elite QBs. We don't. KS shouldn't be picking the QBs. He sucks at it.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by dj43:
I just watched a short interview with Jeff Saturday in which he basically said, "I just told the guys to go out and play football. You are all pros and know what you should be doing." It worked. After all the chaos of the past two weeks and an underperforming season, and despite some key injuries, the Colts went out and played above expectations.

I bring that up in this thread because I believe the offense under Shanahan is playing too tight. They need to feel enabled to just go out and play the game without having to face Shanahan's well-documented potty mouth when things go wrong.

It shouldn't be this hard. With all this talent, things should look better.

The Tomsula and Singletary approach to coaching.

"Just play better!"

That wasn't the point at all. It was about allowing the players to feel more relaxed without the constant fear of mistakes. There is a difference.

That may work for a few games but over time that laid back attitude will create a losing culture.

44-46 pretty much looks like a losing culture to me.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Actively trying?.. yes

Does he have a confirmed FQB?.. no.

Are we 6 years in?.. yes.

I would expect a offensive minded genius to get that position right in less than 6 years. For a comp, Andy Reid got the position solved before his first game as HC. He drafted McNabb before he coached a single game, and developed him to be much better than he was on draft day.

How long do we give KS to figure it out? 10 years?

McVay didn't get his until last yr and even that is looking meh. Andy Reid wasn't the GM bro. Stop acting like he was the guy who just hand picked McNabb or Mahomes and no one else played a part in it. He didn't win it all until he got Mahomes. Kyle has won plenty of games with Jimmy (who they did get year 1). We all know why he didn't draft someone that first yr.

McNabb developed into a sub 60% passer lol.

Who is our GM picking the offensive guys? You got at the heart of the issue. Reid had GMs setting himself up with elite QBs. We don't. KS shouldn't be picking the QBs. He sucks at it.

A little late for that. Kyle runs this b***h.

LMAO.. the malcontents of this forums are beyond ridiculous 🤣 might as well change their names to the forty whiners of the "fanbase".

https://youtu.be/O5mmeZkxgvY

I don't see ANY player complaining about KS or the win, as Warner said "that's a hell of a WIN", a TEAM WIN. NOTE: In fact I didn't see ANY one wide open all game on the 9er offense says what the 5-3 Chargers brought on D, 68 Jimmy, with 28 attempts and 3 too many, made some tight necessary throws to well covered receivers to keep the game close and competitive to secure this team win, running the ball was the right call, the team's forte especially having both CMC and Mitchell now healthy, and necessary, enjoy and move on forty whiners 🤣

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by dj43:
I just watched a short interview with Jeff Saturday in which he basically said, "I just told the guys to go out and play football. You are all pros and know what you should be doing." It worked. After all the chaos of the past two weeks and an underperforming season, and despite some key injuries, the Colts went out and played above expectations.

I bring that up in this thread because I believe the offense under Shanahan is playing too tight. They need to feel enabled to just go out and play the game without having to face Shanahan's well-documented potty mouth when things go wrong.

It shouldn't be this hard. With all this talent, things should look better.

The Tomsula and Singletary approach to coaching.

"Just play better!"

That wasn't the point at all. It was about allowing the players to feel more relaxed without the constant fear of mistakes. There is a difference.

That may work for a few games but over time that laid back attitude will create a losing culture.

44-46 pretty much looks like a losing culture to me.

34-24 since 2019.

Originally posted by dj43:
I don't think Saturday is a long-term solution but we will see about that.

My point is that there comes a time when a team is struggling and loosening things up a bit allows them to just play instead of think and good things happen.

Yes, putting Ryan back in was the correct move and it also contributes to a looser environment where the veteran QB instills confidence the struggling rookie could not.

LV is not a bad team. They just have a bad HC that is now failing again. McDaniel has lost that team and I couldn't be more pleased. I feel bad for Carr because he will likely be the scapegoat. He is a better player than he has shown this season but it is what it is.

LV has injuries all over the place and that D has been poor for a while. I do agree I think Carr is better but overall they just haven't been good for a while regardless of who the HC has been.

also I get what you're saying with playing free. I just don't think that's a problem here at all.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Well in fairness to Kyle - he traded for Lance and Lance was the starter. jimmy G ended up being the back up unexpectedly and then Lance was lost for the year. I can't blame Kyle for that aside running Lance way to much lol

Is Lance a FQB? No, he is a TBD

Ok and? That doesn't change the fact Kyle is actively trying to upgrade the position.

Actively trying?.. yes

Does he have a confirmed FQB?.. no.

Are we 6 years in?.. yes.

I would expect a offensive minded genius to get that position right in less than 6 years. For a comp, Andy Reid got the position solved before his first game as HC. He drafted McNabb before he coached a single game, and developed him to be much better than he was on draft day.

How long do we give KS to figure it out? 10 years?

I am not disagreeing with you, but Kyle gets at least two more years with Lance so enjoy the ride lol

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Well in fairness to Kyle - he traded for Lance and Lance was the starter. jimmy G ended up being the back up unexpectedly and then Lance was lost for the year. I can't blame Kyle for that aside running Lance way to much lol

Is Lance a FQB? No, he is a TBD

Ok and? That doesn't change the fact Kyle is actively trying to upgrade the position.

Actively trying?.. yes

Does he have a confirmed FQB?.. no.

Are we 6 years in?.. yes.

I would expect a offensive minded genius to get that position right in less than 6 years. For a comp, Andy Reid got the position solved before his first game as HC. He drafted McNabb before he coached a single game, and developed him to be much better than he was on draft day.

How long do we give KS to figure it out? 10 years?

I am not disagreeing with you, but Kyle gets at least two more years with Lance so enjoy the ride lol

The prob I see.. JG is not under contract so a decision has to be made very soon on another QB. What do we do next year?

Door 1.. TL / Purdy
Door 2.. TL / JG again
Door 3.. TL / new guy

And who picks the new guy if we go that direction? I'm hoping it is not another KS QB decision.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I am not disagreeing with you, but Kyle gets at least two more years with Lance so enjoy the ride lol

KS ain't going no where.
The malcontent forty whiners are delusional and ridiculous even after a WIN.. 🤣

Coach is spot on here:

Head coach Kyle Shanahan was asked after the game if it would take more time for the offense to figure everything out.

"I think that could have happened today," head coach Kyle Shanahan said. "I don't get too caught up in it. We had 400 yards of offense. We were two for five in the red zone. I think we get a lot more points if we could score touchdowns on those plays instead of field goals. I didn't feel like it wasn't that we couldn't move the ball or do stuff like that. I felt like guys made a lot of plays. I don't know how many we averaged a play, but I know we were moving it. We were the better offense today. We've just got to score more touchdowns."

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/163328-notebook-sundays-passing-defenses-simple-secret-second-success/