Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:who was the guy that we offered it to and he stayed with the texans?? grabel?? i am stumbling around but i was excited about that even though he had no experience. oh well. does not matter but so far. i really would be fine in seeing a new dc next year and not mangini. speaking of people who always come back to us
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
McVay walked into a really good situation, not to mention revamping their receivers with Woods and Watkins helped. But I will say this, McVay did the one thing I wanted Shanahan to do and that was hire Wade Phillips or a veteran DC, I also wanted Gus Bradley too and they almost had him. I do think Saleh is doing a fairly decent job for a rookie DC, but if I were a rookie head coach I would've hired a veteran DC and hopefully Shanahan does with Vic Fangio's contract up at the end of the season or year.
i thought vic was over rated and a product of great players but so far this year. yes i would be fine bringing him in. that soft coverage stuff makes me nuts
Any other good DC candidates out there? Not that big names are always the answer.
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Oct 11, 2017 at 10:36 AM
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Oct 11, 2017 at 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by tommyncal:Fair answer. Mcvay could turn out to be the better coach, but its very hard to compare coaches being on different teams. Goff or Hoyer? Rams defense or 49ers defense? I also think Shanahan has taken this year to evaluate players more than just winning games. Kerley and Brooks were both better players, at their positions, than what Shanahan kept on the 53. But Brooks was gone after this year anyway and would Kerley be better than Taylor 1 or 2 years down the road? Can't evaluate Bolden as a returner/receiver if he doesn't make the 53.Originally posted by susweel:Originally posted by tommyncal:Seems like your covering your ass when the winning comes. I'm curious, who did you want the niners to hire as HC ? Are you saying that Shanahan was your pick but he's not now because he can't coach? Did you think the niners would be like 8-8 this season?
I wanted shanny but he's been very underwhelming thus far. Mcvay seems to be the superior coach.
No not with this roster and coaching.
Obviously goff is the superior talent but ks chose to go with hoyer over rookies like watson, trubisky, mahomes. I like taylor he's a good player who gets open. Bolden jr is just a guy plus kick returners are pretty much an obsolete position in today's nfl.
Oct 11, 2017 at 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by cciowa:
i think he has done a lovely job of disrespecting himself at least wilis knew when it was time to go. to many examples of players staying to long and becoming a total shell and embarrassing thing on the field
Bowman has been far from "embarrassing" just not nearly the same.
well i think he is a shell and is very very close to becoming embarrassing , and his mouth is not helping either in my opinion. so far . no locker room issues but bowman and hyde may be getting close to starting something
Oct 11, 2017 at 10:38 AM
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vrabel? lol
Oct 11, 2017 at 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by cciowa:
well i think he is a shell and is very very close to becoming embarrassing , and his mouth is not helping either in my opinion. so far . no locker room issues but bowman and hyde may be getting close to starting something
Winning cures everything. The sooner we do that, the better. Unfortunately barring our miracle our next good chance at a win is a good 3-4 weeks away.
Oct 11, 2017 at 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Any other good DC candidates out there? Not that big names are always the answer.
Just came to my mind: Chuck Pagano or Jeff Fisher? Lol
Oct 11, 2017 at 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:Originally posted by cciowa:i think he has done a lovely job of disrespecting himself at least wilis knew when it was time to go. to many examples of players staying to long and becoming a total shell and embarrassing thing on the field
Bowman has been far from "embarrassing" just not nearly the same.
Hes been ok. Just an average to slightly above average LB, which is fine if he wasn't making elite LB money. If you read the writing on the wall, and believe Bowman's comments in that interview, the 49ers will not bring him back next year for nearly 10 mil., and if thats it in SF, he will retire.
Unless maybe they re-work the contract, although with Bowman's pride, I doubt he does that. This very easily could be the last we see of Bowman. In 2013 we had Bowman and Willis playing like All-Pro's, and just 4 years later they could both be retired. Insane.
[ Edited by Niners99 on Oct 11, 2017 at 10:41 AM ]
Oct 11, 2017 at 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by susweel:no one could have success with what he took over . amazing we won the games we did and kept the locker room together in spite of ck and reid
Lol wow we are so much better than last year.
Chip gotta raw deal he should have got another year or two with a chance to bring in his own players without b***h ass baalke.
He was handed a s**t show with a s**t GM. He got a raw deal.
I do believe Jed made the right choice to move on completely tho.
I also believe he lucked into Kyle.
KS is a Rookie HC experiment right now. Not doubting he won't one day be a good NFL HC but it might not be with us.
Oct 11, 2017 at 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:you said nothing wrong. people say we lucked into jh as well
He was handed a s**t show with a s**t GM. He got a raw deal.
I do believe Jed made the right choice to move on completely tho.
I also believe he lucked into Kyle.
We definitely did - JH was a nightmare to deal with but a good coach. He chose Baalke.....lol
Jury is out on Kyle obviously, but Jed was lucky someone with his offensive scheming reputation desired to be here.
JH didn't choose Baalke...Jed did. Baalke was involved in this organization going back to 2005.
Oct 11, 2017 at 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by susweel:no one could have success with what he took over . amazing we won the games we did and kept the locker room together in spite of ck and reid
Lol wow we are so much better than last year.
Chip gotta raw deal he should have got another year or two with a chance to bring in his own players without b***h ass baalke.
He was handed a s**t show with a s**t GM. He got a raw deal.
I do believe Jed made the right choice to move on completely tho.
I also believe he lucked into Kyle.
KS is a Rookie HC experiment right now. Not doubting he won't one day be a good NFL HC but it might not be with us.
Eddie DeBartolo's best move ever was giving Bill Walsh time to tear down and rebuild the team from scratch. That first season under Walsh was excruciating to watch. But, like this year's team, you could see the promise of the future.
Let's hope Jed gives the same kind of patient backing to Shanny. I think he has it in him.
Oct 11, 2017 at 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by susweel:no one could have success with what he took over . amazing we won the games we did and kept the locker room together in spite of ck and reid
Lol wow we are so much better than last year.
Chip gotta raw deal he should have got another year or two with a chance to bring in his own players without b***h ass baalke.
He was handed a s**t show with a s**t GM. He got a raw deal.
I do believe Jed made the right choice to move on completely tho.
I also believe he lucked into Kyle.
KS is a Rookie HC experiment right now. Not doubting he won't one day be a good NFL HC but it might not be with us.
Eddie DeBartolo's best move ever was giving Bill Walsh time to tear down and rebuild the team from scratch. That first season under Walsh was excruciating to watch. But, like this year's team, you could see the promise of the future.
Let's hope Jed gives the same kind of patient backing to Shanny. I think he has it in him.
Eddie was oldschool and time was how things developed back in the 70's...this is the instant gratification generation and Jeddy embodies that through and through.
Oct 11, 2017 at 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by billbird2111:
Eddie DeBartolo's best move ever was giving Bill Walsh time to tear down and rebuild the team from scratch. That first season under Walsh was excruciating to watch. But, like this year's team, you could see the promise of the future.
Let's hope Jed gives the same kind of patient backing to Shanny. I think he has it in him.
Can you imagine if the zone existed during BW rookie year as a coach? " Bill Walsh needs to be fired " " BW aint good enough" etc lmao!
Oct 11, 2017 at 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by jcs:Is that why Eddie fired 3 head coaches and 2 general managers in his first 2+ years prior to Walsh/McVay/Ralston? lol
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by susweel:no one could have success with what he took over . amazing we won the games we did and kept the locker room together in spite of ck and reid
Lol wow we are so much better than last year.
Chip gotta raw deal he should have got another year or two with a chance to bring in his own players without b***h ass baalke.
He was handed a s**t show with a s**t GM. He got a raw deal.
I do believe Jed made the right choice to move on completely tho.
I also believe he lucked into Kyle.
KS is a Rookie HC experiment right now. Not doubting he won't one day be a good NFL HC but it might not be with us.
Eddie DeBartolo's best move ever was giving Bill Walsh time to tear down and rebuild the team from scratch. That first season under Walsh was excruciating to watch. But, like this year's team, you could see the promise of the future.
Let's hope Jed gives the same kind of patient backing to Shanny. I think he has it in him.
Eddie was oldschool and time was how things developed back in the 70's...this is the instant gratification generation and Jeddy embodies that through and through.
Eddie had to learn the harrrrrrrrrrd way...
[ Edited by RTFirefly on Oct 11, 2017 at 12:09 PM ]
Oct 11, 2017 at 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
We definitely did - JH was a nightmare to deal with but a good coach. He chose Baalke.....lol
wtf are you talking about
[ Edited by defenderDX on Oct 11, 2017 at 12:12 PM ]
Oct 11, 2017 at 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by RTFirefly:Is that why Eddie fired 3 head coaches and 2 general managers in his first 2+ years prior to Walsh/McVay/Ralston? lol
Eddie had to learn the harrrrrrrrrrd way...
Was just getting ready to say this