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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Best coach in the NFC

FTFY. He's on track for the NFL though. That's for sure.

I said what I said. Andy Reid ain't doing this with his 3rd string QB

Fair take. I just mean he has to win it at some point no matter the QB to truly be considered the best in the NFL.

Reid being 1-4 in the playoffs during his time in KC also blew a 28pt lead in the playoffs, Much didn't change until he got maybe one of the greatest of all time at QB. Now they've been to 5 straight AFC champ games since Maholmes has been there. 1-1 in the Superbowl, but should be 0-2 and is now only considered a HOF coach cause of the ring.

Hopefully Kyle can get at least 1, because without that Ring he will never be considered a HOF coach and thats a sad reality

True. People already annointing him don't know what this game is about. It's about championships. Shanahan needs at least one. Without that one he's just Marty schottenheimer or Dan reeves. A loss sunday and no one is talking about how he's the best in the NFL.

That's gold coming from the dude who wants him fired. Absolute f**king gold
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Best coach in the NFC

FTFY. He's on track for the NFL though. That's for sure.

I said what I said. Andy Reid ain't doing this with his 3rd string QB

Fair take. I just mean he has to win it at some point no matter the QB to truly be considered the best in the NFL.

Reid being 1-4 in the playoffs during his time in KC also blew a 28pt lead in the playoffs, Much didn't change until he got maybe one of the greatest of all time at QB. Now they've been to 5 straight AFC champ games since Maholmes has been there. 1-1 in the Superbowl, but should be 0-2 and is now only considered a HOF coach cause of the ring.

Hopefully Kyle can get at least 1, because without that Ring he will never be considered a HOF coach and thats a sad reality

True. People already annointing him don't know what this game is about. It's about championships. Shanahan needs at least one. Without that one he's just Marty schottenheimer or Dan reeves. A loss sunday and no one is talking about how he's the best in the NFL.

That's gold coming from the dude who wants him fired. Absolute f**king gold

Haha no s**t, right? Anything he posts in this thread is trolling imo.
Originally posted by Jcool:
To be fair every other Shanahan backup looked like hot garbage. There is a reason he was under 500 coming into the year.

Every single QB that has been with Kyle has outperformed their expectations.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
To be fair every other Shanahan backup looked like hot garbage. There is a reason he was under 500 coming into the year.

Every single QB that has been with Kyle has outperformed their expectations.

and that is your opinion.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
To be fair every other Shanahan backup looked like hot garbage. There is a reason he was under 500 coming into the year.

Every single QB that has been with Kyle has outperformed their expectations.

and that is your opinion.
he's going by production.. you can always prove a take wrong with some evidence and not your personal opinion
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
True. People already annointing him don't know what this game is about. It's about championships. Shanahan needs at least one. Without that one he's just Marty schottenheimer or Dan reeves. A loss sunday and no one is talking about how he's the best in the NFL.

Until Kyle wins a SB he deserves to be fired
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
To be fair every other Shanahan backup looked like hot garbage. There is a reason he was under 500 coming into the year.

Every single QB that has been with Kyle has outperformed their expectations.

and that is your opinion.
he's going by production.. you can always prove a take wrong with some evidence and not your personal opinion

There is nothing to compare it to. He might see Beathard and his 80 career QB rating is a win for getting that much from a 3rd round QB. I on the other hand just see a QB who lead the 49ers to a 2-10 record in his starts & conclude no one was ever going to make him a good QB. You need a good QB to win in this league. No amount of scheming is going to change that. The good ones are able to maximize the QBs but its not like Mahomes would of been a bust on say Chicago.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
True. People already annointing him don't know what this game is about. It's about championships. Shanahan needs at least one. Without that one he's just Marty schottenheimer or Dan reeves. A loss sunday and no one is talking about how he's the best in the NFL.

Until Kyle wins a SB he deserves to be fired

Haha. Not "good enough."

...yet.

This is the year that all changes though.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
To be fair every other Shanahan backup looked like hot garbage. There is a reason he was under 500 coming into the year.

Every single QB that has been with Kyle has outperformed their expectations.

and that is your opinion.
he's going by production.. you can always prove a take wrong with some evidence and not your personal opinion

There is nothing to compare it to. He might see Beathard and his 80 career QB rating is a win for getting that much from a 3rd round QB. I on the other hand just see a QB who lead the 49ers to a 2-10 record in his starts & conclude no one was ever going to make him a good QB. You need a good QB to win in this league. No amount of scheming is going to change that. The good ones are able to maximize the QBs but its not like Mahomes would of been a bust on say Chicago.
He's not saying anything is a win, it's getting the most out of a QB.. Which he has and is not an opinion.
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Jan 25, 2023 at 9:37 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Dan Campbell should be on this list in place of McDermott.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
True. People already annointing him don't know what this game is about. It's about championships. Shanahan needs at least one. Without that one he's just Marty schottenheimer or Dan reeves. A loss sunday and no one is talking about how he's the best in the NFL.

Until Kyle wins a SB he deserves to be fired

Haha. Not "good enough."

...yet.

This is the year that all changes though.

Translation..,,I've talked up the fact the niners have a ton of top shelf talent now, I like their OL now and if he doesn't win it all I'm going to go back to ragging on his ass
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Dan Campbell should be on this list in place of McDermott.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Best coach in the NFC

FTFY. He's on track for the NFL though. That's for sure.

I said what I said. Andy Reid ain't doing this with his 3rd string QB

Fair take. I just mean he has to win it at some point no matter the QB to truly be considered the best in the NFL.

Reid being 1-4 in the playoffs during his time in KC also blew a 28pt lead in the playoffs, Much didn't change until he got maybe one of the greatest of all time at QB. Now they've been to 5 straight AFC champ games since Maholmes has been there. 1-1 in the Superbowl, but should be 0-2 and is now only considered a HOF coach cause of the ring.

Hopefully Kyle can get at least 1, because without that Ring he will never be considered a HOF coach and thats a sad reality

True. People already annointing him don't know what this game is about. It's about championships. Shanahan needs at least one. Without that one he's just Marty schottenheimer or Dan reeves. A loss sunday and no one is talking about how he's the best in the NFL.

That's gold coming from the dude who wants him fired. Absolute f**king gold

What Shanahan has done is extremely impressive, but it's still a good point. Marty Schottenheimer was a terrific coach that led the Browns, Chiefs, and Chargers to MULTIPLE playoff appearances each, but only made it as far as AFC Championship... losing 3 times. In 21 seasons, Schottenheimer was a proven coach, but couldn't win the BIG games. With such a large sample size, across multiple teams, he's the common denominator in at all, unfortunately.

When you're deep in the playoffs, the talent level between teams can be very close... to a point that many games are often decided by a couple plays. As a head coach, there's a point where your decisions can affect the game at a macrolevel--how conservative/aggressive are you? Do you punt or go for it? Do you challenge this play? How well do you manage the clock? If you're the playcaller, are you winning your play calls against presumably another elite coordinator? Are you able to squeeze out the most of your guys? Are your guys prepared to play the game at a high level?

So far, Shanahan's track record speaks for himself. He's a good coach. After year 2 when the "rebuild" was complete, Shanahan has gotten his team to 3 conference championship games in 4 years. That's a good coach that we should keep around. But until he wins the Big One, he will not separate himself from other good coaches, and there will always be the question, especially when we've had heartbreaking losses to the Rams in the NFCCG and the Chiefs in the SB.

In my opinion, Shanahan is still a young coach whose story is still ongoing. It took 12 years for Tom Coughlin to win his ring. 14 for Bill Cowher. 21 for Andy Reid. Hopefully we don't have to wait long for Shanahan to win it all, and hopefully it's this year.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
To be fair every other Shanahan backup looked like hot garbage. There is a reason he was under 500 coming into the year.

Every single QB that has been with Kyle has outperformed their expectations.

and that is your opinion.

Kyle's system is similar the Walsh's system in that it doesn't require a QB that's really fast or has a strong arm. It's more important to have a QB that learns fast, sees the field well and processes what he sees quickly. Then he has to be accurate and throw a catchable ball. It doesn't need to look pretty. Just efficient.

Walsh was fortunate to find Montana and the Young who both fit what he wanted to do. Kyle has that in Purdy. Then you surround them with the best talent you can on offense and build a dominating defense. That's the winning formula.
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