49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread | Page 356

Oct 13, 2017 at 8:46 PM

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Originally posted by Follower:
Once again, can't find support for this "great offensive mind" label some are so anxious to put on him.... maybe he's just hiding it this year .... get out of here.... he's only known for blowing the Super Bowl that Matt and Julio got him to....

It's there you're just choosing not to notice it.

Oct 13, 2017 at 8:49 PM

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I believe I've indicated before that he's decent to good play caller.... not a "great offensive mind".... not a game changer.... not a 6 year contract guy.... maybe I'll be wrong, but probably not.

Oct 13, 2017 at 8:49 PM

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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Follower:
Once again, can't find support for this "great offensive mind" label some are so anxious to put on him.... maybe he's just hiding it this year .... get out of here.... he's only known for blowing the Super Bowl that Matt and Julio got him to....

It's there you're just choosing not to notice it.

Seriously though it comes to this....who gives a f**k what someone that has proven that he doesn't have the baseline knowledge to talk about football. If he chooses to ignore the results that's on him and makes him look bad to guys that actually have a grasp of what this league is about.

Oct 13, 2017 at 8:50 PM

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Originally posted by Follower:
Can't find support for it.... Jed got cornered and bullied into 6 years.

Yeah, can't find support for your logic here either...

Oct 13, 2017 at 8:51 PM

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Originally posted by Follower:
I believe I've indicated before that he's decent to good play caller.... not a "great offensive mind".... not a game changer.... not a 6 year contract guy.... maybe I'll be wrong, but probably not.

Then what is a "great offensive mind" by your standards?

Oct 13, 2017 at 8:54 PM

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Originally posted by Follower:
I believe I've indicated before that he's decent to good play caller.... not a "great offensive mind".... not a game changer.... not a 6 year contract guy.... maybe I'll be wrong, but probably not.

No you're wrong....and if this is who some think, it not a surprise. Not a lot of real X's and O's displayed....makes one look foolish especially given the rhetoric you choose to spout off.

BTW, whats the differences between the read-option and zone read......what are these mystical "more deep balls" you've asked for.

[ Edited by Niners816 on Oct 13, 2017 at 8:54 PM ]

Oct 13, 2017 at 8:56 PM

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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Then what is a "great offensive mind" by your standards?

Sean Walsh-Lombardi McVay

You know 5th in the league.....you know, something Kyle's done 5 times with 3 different teams.

Oct 13, 2017 at 9:14 PM

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So the question is, do yards win games, or do points win games?

Oct 13, 2017 at 9:24 PM

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Originally posted by Follower:
So the question is, do yards win games, or do points win games?

Yards are a function of offense....points are strongly correlated to the talent of your QB. This is because QB dictate red zone efficiency and 3rd down conversions. Nonetheless, when you have an offensive scheme that can generate yards and couple it with a top level Qb that's proven time after time to be a combo that scores points. Again, when Kyles been provided with a top5 QB he's produced a top 10 all time offensive season. So scheme is no question with Kyle.

Nice try though.

Oct 13, 2017 at 9:31 PM

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10 seasons as a "great offensive mind" and only 3 of those seasons in the top 16 in points scored.... trust me, we ALL clearly see that this year.... KS simply benefited from circumstance.... one could argue that he faced a bunch of prevent defenses.... that nobody cared how many yards he put up until it really mattered,.... then we ALL know what happened.... I'm pulling for the guy, but he's not what you want him to be.

Oct 13, 2017 at 9:37 PM

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Originally posted by Follower:
10 seasons as a "great offensive mind" and only 3 of those seasons in the top 16 in points scored.... trust me, we ALL clearly see that this year.... KS simply benefited from circumstance.... one could argue that he faced a bunch of prevent defenses.... that nobody cared how many yards he put up until it really mattered,.... then we ALL know what happened.... I'm pulling for the guy, but he's not what you want him to be.

I know....the defense he carried to the Super Bowl s**t the Bed.

Haha...."one could argue he faced a bunch of prevent defenses"

Do you even f**king know what a prevent defense is? Like, when teams even run them? You seriously, just said that someone's playcalling resume was a result of teams always running a prevent defense