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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

Replace, Kinlaw, Glinch, Burford, Brendel and find another CB since I'm not confident In Moseley being able to stay healthy.
did you read his post, it's getting us over the hump. removing players will not do that

Brendel and Burford should be backups.

Glinch and Kinlaw should be gone.

Who do you replace McGlinchey with?

That's something they'll have to look Into In the off-season.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
when you go to the dictionary and look up Loser, you see Kyle's face

Oxford also gets to save some money because they get to use the same picture under choker.

I'll get banned saying what I see from this post
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jan 30, 2023 at 9:08 AM ]
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

Replace, Kinlaw, Glinch, Burford, Brendel and find another CB since I'm not confident In Moseley being able to stay healthy.
did you read his post, it's getting us over the hump. removing players will not do that

Brendel and Burford should be backups.

Glinch and Kinlaw should be gone.
do you still not understand, They are good enough to get us to the NFCCG, who is replacing them to get us a SB,.. anyone ?
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Jan 30, 2023 at 9:01 AM ]
I saw some people complaining that Kyle always gets his QBs hurt. For the record, 5 other teams had to play 4 different QBs this season. Not all were because of injuries but several were.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

Replace, Kinlaw, Glinch, Burford, Brendel and find another CB since I'm not confident In Moseley being able to stay healthy.
did you read his post, it's getting us over the hump. removing players will not do that

Brendel and Burford should be backups.

Glinch and Kinlaw should be gone.
do you still not understand, They are good enough to get us to the NFCCG, who is replacing them to get us a SB,.. anyone ?

Kinlaw didn't do a thing to help us get to the NFCCG, other that get tosses aside.

JG also helped us reach the super bowl In 2019, but we still replaced him, because he was the weak link.
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Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Kyle is the Jimmy Garoppolo of HC's...can go on a great winning roll, plays best when his back is against the wall, can roll up elite stats, and play with the best of them. But in the moments you need him most, he's not quite the guy to get you over the hump and it's 100% mental.

I still believe you can win a Superbowl with both under the right circumstances though. I still believe in Kyle. But sometimes he needs to be saved from himself and his blinders-focus on play calling.

Kyle is still a young coach compared to Walsh, Reid, and Bellichick. He needs a Hall of Fame QB to win a Superbowl. He may have found two promising individuals this year.

As for the gameplan against the Eagles, he was too aggressive when patience and the run game was needed in this case. The Washington Commanders approach should have indicated what Kyle needed to do from a strategic point of view. The run game and short passes should have been the norm. Instead Kyle decides to gamble (a la New York - going on 4th down) and risk his QB on a longer developing play.

Its a lesson learned. Is he confident or arrogant? In the Dallas game he was confident, because they won. In the Eagles game, he was arrogant because he lost his QB and lost the Game. He is a genius playcaller, and sometimes its a genius move to be more patient than arrogant.

Win = confident
Lose = arrogant

Don't understand that at all.

See this hindsight response so often. Just run the ball like it's the answer to everything. We weren't running the ball well to start the game. If you think a bunch of 3 and outs is a way to go then I don't know what to tell you.

The point of a long developing play was an attempt to force the Eagles to think twice about stacking the box and focusing on the run so much.

It was so we could run the ball, not instead of running the ball.

Any team that gets one dimensional is more than likely going to lose so this whole "just run the ball" mantra in hindsight when that's what Philly was clearly prepared for is not the magic pill so many want it to be.

Its a valid assessment as you don't know what any decision will result in, until after the fact. That's how you learn. You tell a person, don't touch the hot kettle, and they do, well the result is an injury because of their choice to touch the hot kettle.

In the future, Kyle should be more cautious in calling aggressive long developing pass plays against a defense that has such ferocious pass rushers. As for the run game not working, that was *expected* as Washington's run game was averaging less than 3.2 yards per play. It was basically (I think) 6 plays before Brock got injured. Kyle just got impatient in my opinion. There is a difference - as I said - between confidence and arrogance, and that is impatience.
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

Replace, Kinlaw, Glinch, Burford, Brendel and find another CB since I'm not confident In Moseley being able to stay healthy.
did you read his post, it's getting us over the hump. removing players will not do that

Brendel and Burford should be backups.

Glinch and Kinlaw should be gone.
do you still not understand, They are good enough to get us to the NFCCG, who is replacing them to get us a SB,.. anyone ?

Kinlaw didn't do a thing to help us get to the NFCCG, other that get tosses aside.

JG also helped us reach the super bowl In 2019, but we still replaced him, because he was the weak link.
ok your logic is just removing those players and not replace them with anyone.. great strategy lol
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Kyle is the Jimmy Garoppolo of HC's...can go on a great winning roll, plays best when his back is against the wall, can roll up elite stats, and play with the best of them. But in the moments you need him most, he's not quite the guy to get you over the hump and it's 100% mental.

I still believe you can win a Superbowl with both under the right circumstances though. I still believe in Kyle. But sometimes he needs to be saved from himself and his blinders-focus on play calling.

Totally disagree. the game was over after the 6th play of the game, there's no one to blame at that point imo. He's been handicapped at the most important position in sports. Go look at all the great HCs and when they had real success. They often had HOF QBs. Kyle's winning (a lot) with avg QB play and tossing in the 262 pick in the draft. that's real coaching imo. That can only get you so far (hence going all in on Lance).

He's not gonna win multiple SB's with the QBs we've had. You can't consistently win SBs with an avg QB. The league is built differently now. You gotta beat multiple elite guys deep in the playoffs. I have no idea what Brock is and I'm not willing to bet my house he's gonna become one of those elite guys. I got no idea what Lance is either…imo you gotta figure that s**t out though.

Except every one of those QB's were handpicked by him. He's the GM here as well.

And? Mike Tomlin didn't pick Big Ben yet everyone's got a hard on for him in here. Tom Brady fell into Bill's lap. How many hand picked QBs did Reid get wrong? A f**k ton. I could go down the list…point is if you don't have that "it" guy you need to keep swinging for them.

I love how in one breath Kyle and Co didn't have say in any of the good players (those were Peters guys lol) now it's Kyle hand picks everyone and he's the GM. Come on bro can't be flip flopping to push a narrative…makes whatever point you're tossing out there less meaningful.
Words/phrases I want retired on this forum:

accountable
hand-picked
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

Replace, Kinlaw, Glinch, Burford, Brendel and find another CB since I'm not confident In Moseley being able to stay healthy.
did you read his post, it's getting us over the hump. removing players will not do that

Brendel and Burford should be backups.

Glinch and Kinlaw should be gone.
do you still not understand, They are good enough to get us to the NFCCG, who is replacing them to get us a SB,.. anyone ?

Kinlaw didn't do a thing to help us get to the NFCCG, other that get tosses aside.

JG also helped us reach the super bowl In 2019, but we still replaced him, because he was the weak link.
ok your logic is just removing those players and not replace them with anyone.. great strategy lol

How do I know who'll be available on free agency? Lol the season hasn't even officially ended yet.

You do realise that 3 players from the OL that helped us reach the NFCCG last season we're replaced this season? Lol
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

Replace, Kinlaw, Glinch, Burford, Brendel and find another CB since I'm not confident In Moseley being able to stay healthy.
did you read his post, it's getting us over the hump. removing players will not do that

Brendel and Burford should be backups.

Glinch and Kinlaw should be gone.

Who do you replace McGlinchey with?

That's something they'll have to look Into In the off-season.

FYI the 49ers probably cant afford Orlando Brown
Originally posted by captveg:
Words/phrases I want retired on this forum:

accountable
hand-picked

No but they KNOW who was "hand picked" and who they had no say in…it's conveniently the bad players that were Kyle's and the good ones are Peters. They KNOW for a fact man.
Originally posted by Giedi:
In the future, Kyle should be more cautious in calling aggressive long developing pass plays against a defense that has such ferocious pass rushers. As for the run game not working, that was *expected* as Washington's run game was averaging less than 3.2 yards per play. It was basically (I think) 6 plays before Brock got injured. Kyle just got impatient in my opinion. There is a difference - as I said - between confidence and arrogance, and that is impatience.

Calling 3 pass plays and 3 run plays is not being impatient, or arrogant. That's not even enough plays to establish what the tempo of the game even is. It's barely a third of the scripted plays.

And oh, by the way, Brock was 2-for-2 on his first two pass attempts, so it was working.
[ Edited by captveg on Jan 30, 2023 at 9:12 AM ]
Originally posted by Sickaa:
How do I know who'll be available on free agency? Lol the season hasn't even officially ended yet.

You do realise that 3 players from the OL that helped us reach the NFCCG last season we're replaced this season? Lol

I mean you can just look and see who's scheduled to be a free agent and go off that.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I saw some people complaining that Kyle always gets his QBs hurt. For the record, 5 other teams had to play 4 different QBs this season. Not all were because of injuries but several were.

ShanaLynch did a good job keeping the rest of the team relatively healthy, hopefully he can figure out how to keep his QBs healthy.

Its a violent sport, and I agree. But if he can find a way to reduce or eliminate those injuries, he'll have an advantage over the rest of the NFL. The talent is so evenly spread out that one or two injuries will end your teams season. I'm fully expecting Kyle to get a 3rd QB now to play behind Trey and Brock.
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