49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
It's the same excuses every ficking year.

Jimmy gets hurt because he's made of glass. Trey gets hurt ita a freak injury. Brock gets hurt it's a freak injury.

You have a rookie qb in there, and you're blaming him for not being aware instead of blaming the genius coach who should never have put him in that position. Instead he calls some gimmicky s**t double fake pitch against a monster dline that almost got purdy killed.

I'm so f**king tired of the excuses year in and year out.

Who's your replacement for Kyle?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

still a QB away

Fair. Anything else?

what else is there to get us over the hump?

Pass protection, pass rush, pass coverage, 24th in ST, etc. You know, things beyond the QB? No?

So you don't know really.. just blurting out things doesn't upgrade anything.

Things beyond QB..? QB and their limitations is the only thing that stops team from winning

Personally I'm reading NCs post as - after a playoff run, your team will be eviscerated by bottom feeding teams that take your valuable depth and talent. ShanaLynch will have to rebuild the team from scratch (in a sense) to make another playoff run. But now they lose draft position and most likely cap space to sign Bosa, Aiyuk, and the other free agents they think they need. The cap and draft just forces mediocrity on playoff teams. We'll see how ShanaLynch responds considering- i think - their all important QB squad is talented and cheap for the next year or two.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
It's the same excuses every ficking year.

Jimmy gets hurt because he's made of glass. Trey gets hurt ita a freak injury. Brock gets hurt it's a freak injury.

You have a rookie qb in there, and you're blaming him for not being aware instead of blaming the genius coach who should never have put him in that position. Instead he calls some gimmicky s**t double fake pitch against a monster dline that almost got purdy killed.

I'm so f**king tired of the excuses year in and year out.

Start rooting for the Lions then. Jesus your posts have been insufferable since the game ended.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

still a QB away

Fair. Anything else?

what else is there to get us over the hump?

Pass protection, pass rush, pass coverage, 24th in ST, etc. You know, things beyond the QB? No?

So you don't know really.. just blurting out things doesn't upgrade anything.

Things beyond QB..? QB and their limitations is the only thing that stops teams from winning

That's so ignorant. I know you're 100% QB-centric but I figured even you could see other areas for improvement needed for next year to get over the hump.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
It's the same excuses every ficking year.

Jimmy gets hurt because he's made of glass. Trey gets hurt ita a freak injury. Brock gets hurt it's a freak injury.

You have a rookie qb in there, and you're blaming him for not being aware instead of blaming the genius coach who should never have put him in that position. Instead he calls some gimmicky s**t double fake pitch against a monster dline that almost got purdy killed.

I'm so f**king tired of the excuses year in and year out.

Who's your replacement for Kyle?

Stop feeding this troll

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Giedi:
In the future, Kyle should be more cautious in calling aggressive long developing pass plays against a defense that has such ferocious pass rushers. As for the run game not working, that was *expected* as Washington's run game was averaging less than 3.2 yards per play. It was basically (I think) 6 plays before Brock got injured. Kyle just got impatient in my opinion. There is a difference - as I said - between confidence and arrogance, and that is impatience.

Calling 3 pass plays and 3 run plays is not being impatient, or arrogant. That's not even enough plays to establish what the tempo of the game even is. It's barely a third of the scripted plays.

And oh, by the way, Brock was 2-for-2 on his first two pass attempts, so it was working.

Did it have to be a play action pass? It could have been a three step slant pattern. In other words, he was going for a Knock Out, when he should have kept his jab and guard up and continue to hit the body.

He had the guy open for that knockout. It's a game of inches. If Hassan is a step slower or is chip blocked or Purdy is a tick faster at throwing the ball it's a big completion.

Sometimes the other team makes a play. Sometimes they let you off the hook (Montana almost INT at end of SB23). Games are won and lost on such minimal differences.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

still a QB away

Fair. Anything else?

what else is there to get us over the hump?

Pass protection, pass rush, pass coverage, 24th in ST, etc. You know, things beyond the QB? No?

So you don't know really.. just blurting out things doesn't upgrade anything.

Things beyond QB..? QB and their limitations is the only thing that stops team from winning

Personally I'm reading NCs post as - after a playoff run, your team will be eviscerated by bottom feeding teams that take your valuable depth and talent. ShanaLynch will have to rebuild the team from scratch (in a sense) to make another playoff run. But now they lose draft position and most likely cap space to sign Bosa, Aiyuk, and the other free agents they think they need. The cap and draft just forces mediocrity on playoff teams. We'll see how ShanaLynch responds considering- i think - their all important QB squad is talented and cheap for the next year or two.

Yup...I simply asked:

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

still a QB away

Fair. Anything else?

what else is there to get us over the hump?

Pass protection, pass rush, pass coverage, 24th in ST, etc. You know, things beyond the QB? No?

So you don't know really.. just blurting out things doesn't upgrade anything.

Things beyond QB..? QB and their limitations is the only thing that stops team from winning

He just gave you a list of what needs to be Improved lol

Having a great QB Isn't gonna help much If we can't keep him upright.

dude you can't be this obtuse. Who are the upgrades.. you know.. like talking about the reality of it ?

Originally posted by 9erred:
The Niners had Jacob Eason from UW on the practice squad since week 11. My question is why did they bring in Josh Johnson?? He clearly did not know the verbage and the playbook yesterday. It was so apparent he was like a rusted hinge moving so slow because he was not comfortable in the offense. 3 delay of game calls, my god man snap the ball and hand off to CMC if all else fails. Josh Johnson should be grateful for his 8 million dollars career earnings and move on.

EAston didn't do much in his career on other NFL teams. I dont think he'd have been better than Josh at this point in his career.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I'm fully expecting Kyle to get a 3rd QB now to play behind Trey and Brock.

They'll bring in at least a 3rd and 4th QB if for nothing else than having more guys in camp. They always do. Whether one of them sticks to the active roster is another story, but Shanahan has usually kept 3 on it.

Well I think a third QB will or should make the 53, and so it can't be a camp body, but a legit QB like another Brock kind of late round talent. It can't be a washed up Josh Johnson, for example.

3rd QB will be a better vet than Johnson more than likely. Perhaps they get another late round QB like Brock that impresses enough to be 3rd, but I think that's less likely.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Giedi:
In the future, Kyle should be more cautious in calling aggressive long developing pass plays against a defense that has such ferocious pass rushers. As for the run game not working, that was *expected* as Washington's run game was averaging less than 3.2 yards per play. It was basically (I think) 6 plays before Brock got injured. Kyle just got impatient in my opinion. There is a difference - as I said - between confidence and arrogance, and that is impatience.

Calling 3 pass plays and 3 run plays is not being impatient, or arrogant. That's not even enough plays to establish what the tempo of the game even is. It's barely a third of the scripted plays.

And oh, by the way, Brock was 2-for-2 on his first two pass attempts, so it was working.

Did it have to be a play action pass? It could have been a three step slant pattern. In other words, he was going for a Knock Out, when he should have kept his jab and guard up and continue to hit the body.

He had the guy open for that knockout. It's a game of inches. If Hassan is a step slower or is chip blocked or Purdy is a tick faster at throwing the ball it's a big completion.

Sometimes the other team makes a play. Sometimes they let you off the hook (Montana almost INT at end of SB23). Games are won and lost on such minimal differences.

Agree its a game of inches, but when you have the number 1 defense in the NFL, you don't need to be offensively impatient.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

still a QB away

Fair. Anything else?

what else is there to get us over the hump?

Pass protection, pass rush, pass coverage, 24th in ST, etc. You know, things beyond the QB? No?

So you don't know really.. just blurting out things doesn't upgrade anything.

Things beyond QB..? QB and their limitations is the only thing that stops team from winning

Personally I'm reading NCs post as - after a playoff run, your team will be eviscerated by bottom feeding teams that take your valuable depth and talent. ShanaLynch will have to rebuild the team from scratch (in a sense) to make another playoff run. But now they lose draft position and most likely cap space to sign Bosa, Aiyuk, and the other free agents they think they need. The cap and draft just forces mediocrity on playoff teams. We'll see how ShanaLynch responds considering- i think - their all important QB squad is talented and cheap for the next year or two.

Yup...I simply asked:

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

if we are close why are you trying to make a laundry list..

Everything we had was/is NFCCG worthy and QB bit us once again. It's QB driven league and the team can't carry the QB the entire way.

Philly couldn't win with their #1 OL without a QB

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

still a QB away

Fair. Anything else?

what else is there to get us over the hump?

Pass protection, pass rush, pass coverage, 24th in ST, etc. You know, things beyond the QB? No?

So you don't know really.. just blurting out things doesn't upgrade anything.

Things beyond QB..? QB and their limitations is the only thing that stops team from winning

Personally I'm reading NCs post as - after a playoff run, your team will be eviscerated by bottom feeding teams that take your valuable depth and talent. ShanaLynch will have to rebuild the team from scratch (in a sense) to make another playoff run. But now they lose draft position and most likely cap space to sign Bosa, Aiyuk, and the other free agents they think they need. The cap and draft just forces mediocrity on playoff teams. We'll see how ShanaLynch responds considering- i think - their all important QB squad is talented and cheap for the next year or two.

Yup...I simply asked:

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

To answer this they need to develop and keep active QBs. Boot camp on how to adjust protections based on alignment, throwing away, getting down, getting out of bounds, know when the play is lost. I rarely see TB12 just get blown the eff up he knows when a play is not on, and will essentially spike the ball at the feet of his rb. There is an art to it and we should focus.

Big decision on what O to run. We spent all offseason designed a TL O that we really didn't get to see. Then we had to pivot on the fly to a totally different O. What O will they install this offseason? Will it be one all QBs can run or tailored to one guy?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

still a QB away

Fair. Anything else?

what else is there to get us over the hump?

Pass protection, pass rush, pass coverage, 24th in ST, etc. You know, things beyond the QB? No?

So you don't know really.. just blurting out things doesn't upgrade anything.

Things beyond QB..? QB and their limitations is the only thing that stops team from winning

He just gave you a list of what needs to be Improved lol

Having a great QB Isn't gonna help much If we can't keep him upright.

dude you can't be this obtuse. Who are the upgrades.. you know.. like talking about the reality of it ?

I've already explained this.

The team will look Into this through the off-season.

Glinch Is more than likely gone anyway, so what Is the team gonna do about that?

It shouldn't be hard to reply Kinlaw lol dude sucks.

As for Branded and Burford, I'm ok with them starting next season if need be.

The 9ers are known for finding late round gems too..

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

still a QB away

Fair. Anything else?

what else is there to get us over the hump?

Pass protection, pass rush, pass coverage, 24th in ST, etc. You know, things beyond the QB? No?

So you don't know really.. just blurting out things doesn't upgrade anything.

Things beyond QB..? QB and their limitations is the only thing that stops team from winning

Personally I'm reading NCs post as - after a playoff run, your team will be eviscerated by bottom feeding teams that take your valuable depth and talent. ShanaLynch will have to rebuild the team from scratch (in a sense) to make another playoff run. But now they lose draft position and most likely cap space to sign Bosa, Aiyuk, and the other free agents they think they need. The cap and draft just forces mediocrity on playoff teams. We'll see how ShanaLynch responds considering- i think - their all important QB squad is talented and cheap for the next year or two.

Yup...I simply asked:

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

I think the OLine continues to be a priority now that they have some young quality QBs on the roster.