49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by leakyfausett:
A lot has been put into the defensive line and LBs the skill positions and even two young QBs. Have to upgrade the O-line and the Secondary to some extent. The trenches are always where the games are won. Our D-line is solid and i think will be even better next year. The D-line can make an average secondary look good and I believe our secondary is a little above average. The o-line has one really good lineman and one that is good and probably get better. But from center to right tackle there needs to be upgrades and a better #2 tight end.

Agree 💯%, that's where I'd want to end up. But I think he has to figure out an offense that can bette suit Purdy and/or Trey. It could be the same offense, it could be different- but I think he needs to redesign the offense to better fit Purdy, if not both Trey and Purdy.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Yup...I simply asked:

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

There wasn't any hump. All 3 of our QBs were hurt vs. probably the best team in the league.

You're proposing solutions to a problem that we didn't get to observe as existent.

We couldn't throw the ball or sustain a drive without any of our 3 QBs. Nonexistent problem-solving.

We should be asking the question as to why our Qbs are always getting Injured?

This. The reason I like the Brady idea would be having him help our young QBs learn to avoid injury. Tom is great at it, as he has to be at his age. A number of talking heads say Tom looked scared to get hit, and why shouldn't he? One of his best traits is his ability to avoid that hard contact and serious injury, by basically knowing when he was about to get sacked and just going down on his terms. Jerry Rice had a similar ability to avoid injury, only suffering the ACL through that long career.

QB health should be the #1 thing they look at in the offseason. Whether it was bad luck, a curse, QBs trying to do too much or whatever, I've never seen a team burn through all of their rostered QBs, sign another and immediately get to the emergency QB.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

still a QB away

Fair. Anything else?

what else is there to get us over the hump?

Pass protection, pass rush, pass coverage, 24th in ST, etc. You know, things beyond the QB? No?

So you don't know really.. just blurting out things doesn't upgrade anything.

Things beyond QB..? QB and their limitations is the only thing that stops team from winning

He just gave you a list of what needs to be Improved lol

Having a great QB Isn't gonna help much If we can't keep him upright.

dude you can't be this obtuse. Who are the upgrades.. you know.. like talking about the reality of it ?

I've already explained this.

The team will look Into this through the off-season.

Glinch Is more than likely gone anyway, so what Is the team gonna do about that?

It shouldn't be hard to reply Kinlaw lol dude sucks.

As for Branded and Burford, I'm ok with them starting next season if need be.

The 9ers are known for finding late round gems too..

you're not explaining anything.. it's a cop out. just getting rid of people..which is makes our team worse if you don't replace them.

Who are the upgrades ? Example at RT, MM is will be the top RT in FA.. who is an upgrade from him that we can get ?

It's not a cop out. What's wrong with saying we can upgrade specific areas of the team? I never mentioned anything about getting rid off anyone other than Kinlaw and Glinch.

Special teams was also poor again this season. Should we Ignore that area too just because we had a successful year?

Well also have a number of draft picks to work with.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It was impatience and it was blocked wrong. You play a field position game against the Eagles. You are on your 3rd string QB. You keep him safe. You don't take those kinds of chances so early in the game. Agree to disagree on this point.

If you know the scouting report on our 3rd stringer to begin with,...it's that he's a risk taker. That's his M.O.

You can coach it out of him all you want but he has that "it" in him that's going to try to maximize what he can.

We love it when it works for extra TDs,...but when it doesnt....here we are.....

I mean the coaching staff doesn't have a joystick on the sidelines where they press a button and the ball gets released.

Plus, lost in this conversation is that Purdy made the correct read for the play. He needs to improve his timing and overall awareness, but that will come with more reps. Teaching how to read a defense and know where to go with the pass is much harder, and Purdy already does that very well. That's generally good news, and can be seen even on a play that turned out so poorly due to his injury.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
When you are literally down to your 5th string QB emergency QB CMC it's time to probably admit your offensive line, blocking TE's and protection schemes aren't really that good. You also need a lot more hot reads if you need to get the ball out quick. Do you see any other teams doing this? Mostly they are playing their starters in the playoffs. At this point it's a fatal flaw. Unless it's fixed we can't go further in the playoffs.

MIA is the only other, Ravens had issues but they weren't down to QB3 in playoffs it was SF and MIA

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
When you are literally down to your 5th string QB emergency QB CMC it's time to probably admit your offensive line, blocking TE's and protection schemes aren't really that good. You also need a lot more hot reads if you need to get the ball out quick. Do you see any other teams doing this? Mostly they are playing their starters in the playoffs. At this point it's a fatal flaw. Unless it's fixed we can't go further in the playoffs.

MIA is the only other, Ravens had issues but they weren't down to QB3 in playoffs it was SF and MIA

If I'm Jed York, I need to have a meeting with Kyle to get his thoughts on how/why we wound up in this position, and what can be done moving forward to avoid it. I've never seen an NFL team burn through FOUR quarterbacks in one season. There has to be more to it than bad luck, and I'd want to hear solutions.

I think deep down he knows he had the best team in the field, probably back to back years.. that's why it hurts once again

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

still a QB away

Fair. Anything else?

what else is there to get us over the hump?

Pass protection, pass rush, pass coverage, 24th in ST, etc. You know, things beyond the QB? No?

So you don't know really.. just blurting out things doesn't upgrade anything.

Things beyond QB..? QB and their limitations is the only thing that stops team from winning

He just gave you a list of what needs to be Improved lol

Having a great QB Isn't gonna help much If we can't keep him upright.

dude you can't be this obtuse. Who are the upgrades.. you know.. like talking about the reality of it ?

I've already explained this.

The team will look Into this through the off-season.

Glinch Is more than likely gone anyway, so what Is the team gonna do about that?

It shouldn't be hard to reply Kinlaw lol dude sucks.

As for Branded and Burford, I'm ok with them starting next season if need be.

The 9ers are known for finding late round gems too..

you're not explaining anything.. it's a cop out. just getting rid of people..which is makes our team worse if you don't replace them.

Who are the upgrades ? Example at RT, MM is will be the top RT in FA.. who is an upgrade from him that we can get ?

It's not a cop out. What's wrong with saying we can upgrade specific areas of the team? I never mentioned anything about getting rid off anyone other than Kinlaw and Glinch.

Special teams was also poor again this season. Should we Ignore that area too just because we had a successful year?

Well also have a number of draft picks to work with.

dude you said Brendal and Burford ! ..This is not Madden, you just don't replace someone one with joe schmoe

Real world here, How can you make improvements, if you don't know who would be better ? get it ?

sometimes there isn't anyone out there that is better than what you have

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
When you are literally down to your 5th string QB emergency QB CMC it's time to probably admit your offensive line, blocking TE's and protection schemes aren't really that good. You also need a lot more hot reads if you need to get the ball out quick. Do you see any other teams doing this? Mostly they are playing their starters in the playoffs. At this point it's a fatal flaw. Unless it's fixed we can't go further in the playoffs.

MIA is the only other, Ravens had issues but they weren't down to QB3 in playoffs it was SF and MIA

If I'm Jed York, I need to have a meeting with Kyle to get his thoughts on how/why we wound up in this position, and what can be done moving forward to avoid it. I've never seen an NFL team burn through FOUR quarterbacks in one season. There has to be more to it than bad luck, and I'd want to hear solutions.

I agree.. the standard is Super Bowls and we aren't meeting it largely due to QB injury. QB injury derailed 2018, 2020, and 2022 ultimately with a dead in the water champ game.. we had no chance. Least it's an odd year next season..

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
When you are literally down to your 5th string QB emergency QB CMC it's time to probably admit your offensive line, blocking TE's and protection schemes aren't really that good. You also need a lot more hot reads if you need to get the ball out quick. Do you see any other teams doing this? Mostly they are playing their starters in the playoffs. At this point it's a fatal flaw. Unless it's fixed we can't go further in the playoffs.

MIA is the only other, Ravens had issues but they weren't down to QB3 in playoffs it was SF and MIA

If I'm Jed York, I need to have a meeting with Kyle to get his thoughts on how/why we wound up in this position, and what can be done moving forward to avoid it. I've never seen an NFL team burn through FOUR quarterbacks in one season. There has to be more to it than bad luck, and I'd want to hear solutions.

I think it is more than bad luck. Miami also kind of runs some things similar to our system right. So if they are the 2 most injured in the league at QB that tells you something. It's not happening to other teams. This system exposes QB's to injuries. It needs to be fixed.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
When you are literally down to your 5th string QB emergency QB CMC it's time to probably admit your offensive line, blocking TE's and protection schemes aren't really that good. You also need a lot more hot reads if you need to get the ball out quick. Do you see any other teams doing this? Mostly they are playing their starters in the playoffs. At this point it's a fatal flaw. Unless it's fixed we can't go further in the playoffs.

MIA is the only other, Ravens had issues but they weren't down to QB3 in playoffs it was SF and MIA

If I'm Jed York, I need to have a meeting with Kyle to get his thoughts on how/why we wound up in this position, and what can be done moving forward to avoid it. I've never seen an NFL team burn through FOUR quarterbacks in one season. There has to be more to it than bad luck, and I'd want to hear solutions.

I agree.. the standard is Super Bowls and we aren't meeting it largely due to QB injury. QB injury derailed 2018, 2020, and 2022 ultimately with a dead in the water champ game.. we had no chance. Least it's an odd year next season..

On the post game show they listed 5 teams that used 4 different QBs this season either because of injury or ineptitude. Having a meeting with Jed is going to accomplish what? Jed isn't going to be able to tell him how to find a QB that won't get injured.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
When you are literally down to your 5th string QB emergency QB CMC it's time to probably admit your offensive line, blocking TE's and protection schemes aren't really that good. You also need a lot more hot reads if you need to get the ball out quick. Do you see any other teams doing this? Mostly they are playing their starters in the playoffs. At this point it's a fatal flaw. Unless it's fixed we can't go further in the playoffs.

MIA is the only other, Ravens had issues but they weren't down to QB3 in playoffs it was SF and MIA

If I'm Jed York, I need to have a meeting with Kyle to get his thoughts on how/why we wound up in this position, and what can be done moving forward to avoid it. I've never seen an NFL team burn through FOUR quarterbacks in one season. There has to be more to it than bad luck, and I'd want to hear solutions.

I agree.. the standard is Super Bowls and we aren't meeting it largely due to QB injury. QB injury derailed 2018, 2020, and 2022 ultimately with a dead in the water champ game.. we had no chance. Least it's an odd year next season..

On the post game show they listed 5 teams that used 4 different QBs this season either because of injury or ineptitude. Having a meeting with Jed is going to accomplish what? Jed isn't going to be able to tell him how to find a QB that won't get injured.

No, Jed should be getting that answer from Kyle. At this point something needs to be corrected. It isn't just this year, it is now a theme of out team.

Any debate on the decision to go hard with Josh Johnson at the end of first half, instead of playing for halftime down 7?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's move to a more productive conversation.

What does Kyle/Lynch need to do NOW to get us over the hump for next year? They're obviously close.

still a QB away

Fair. Anything else?

what else is there to get us over the hump?

Pass protection, pass rush, pass coverage, 24th in ST, etc. You know, things beyond the QB? No?

So you don't know really.. just blurting out things doesn't upgrade anything.

Things beyond QB..? QB and their limitations is the only thing that stops team from winning

He just gave you a list of what needs to be Improved lol

Having a great QB Isn't gonna help much If we can't keep him upright.

dude you can't be this obtuse. Who are the upgrades.. you know.. like talking about the reality of it ?

I've already explained this.

The team will look Into this through the off-season.

Glinch Is more than likely gone anyway, so what Is the team gonna do about that?

It shouldn't be hard to reply Kinlaw lol dude sucks.

As for Branded and Burford, I'm ok with them starting next season if need be.

The 9ers are known for finding late round gems too..

you're not explaining anything.. it's a cop out. just getting rid of people..which is makes our team worse if you don't replace them.

Who are the upgrades ? Example at RT, MM is will be the top RT in FA.. who is an upgrade from him that we can get ?

It's not a cop out. What's wrong with saying we can upgrade specific areas of the team? I never mentioned anything about getting rid off anyone other than Kinlaw and Glinch.

Special teams was also poor again this season. Should we Ignore that area too just because we had a successful year?

Well also have a number of draft picks to work with.

dude you said Brendal and Burford ! ..This is not Madden, you just don't replace someone one with joe schmoe

Real world here, How can you make improvements, if you don't know who would be better ? get it ?

sometimes there isn't anyone out there that is better than what you have

I Said "we should look Into It" nothing wrong with trying to Improve the team.

Brendel Is a journeyman who actually looked decent tbf.
Burford Is still young, so maybe he has potential?

Replacing Kin, whilst finding a way to upgrade the ST would still be an Improvement, would It not?

I know It's not easy replacing starters In this league, but that's why you have the draft and free agency.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Any debate on the decision to go hard with Josh Johnson at the end of first half, instead of playing for halftime down 7?

Eh, I doubt It would have made a difference. We weren't winning with Josh anyway.