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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
I Said "we should look Into It" nothing wrong with trying to Improve the team.

Brendel Is a journeyman who actually looked decent tbf.
Burford Is still young, so maybe he has potential?

Replacing Kin, whilst finding a way to upgrade the ST would still be an Improvement, would It not?

I know It's not easy replacing starters In this league, but that's why you have the draft and free agency.
no no no, don't back pedal now. 49ers look into upgrading all the time win or lose

You and NC clearly posted what needs to be done and gave half sided opinions.. Pointing something out does not solve anything

You didn't answer my question?

By replacing Kin and upgrading the ST, would that not be considered an Improvement?
tell me who we are replacing them with, so i can give you an answer

Anyone would be an Improvement over Kinlaw at this point.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
lol what..? none of what you said would have worked when they know we can only run the ball..

4th string qb who hasn't played a game in years and it's not a player problem.
lol, we should have just took a knee like in Waterboy
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Not that so much, more having him drop back and go thru progressions.. KS def made a choice to dial up some downfield throws before half. It backfired bigtime. If he does his normal conservative stuff, we likely go in down 7. Instead we went in down 14 and JJ's confidence shaken totally.

to edit - you can hear on the broadcast they mentioned he took his eye off the snap to hurry up and get a start on his progressions

Unless JJ has said something after, and clearly they would not have known in the moment, the announcers have f**k all idea what JJ was looking at. Maybe there was a hot chick in the crowd. Maybe a small bug jumped on one of his lineman's legs, maybe x, y, and z. What they said is PURE SPECULATION / GUESSING.
[ Edited by Polkadots on Jan 30, 2023 at 11:18 AM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Not that so much, more having him drop back and go thru progressions.. KS def made a choice to dial up some downfield throws before half. It backfired bigtime. If he does his normal conservative stuff, we likely go in down 7. Instead we went in down 14 and JJ's confidence shaken totally.

to edit - you can hear on the broadcast they mentioned he took his eye off the snap to hurry up and get a start on his progressions

The broadcasters have zero idea what JJ was going to do. Maybe he took his eye off it because he was going to throw a quick pass without going through progressions at all. They had zero knowledge of what he was going to do.

I wouldn't say zero knowledge.. they have some.. I mean they are pro broadcasters. Color guy was one of the best TEs I have seen play the game. So that's some knowledge. Inexperienced in big games QB, fierce rush, it's their words he took his eye off to look at the D / start his progressions.. given he's needed all the help in that respect he can get, he's not experienced at all in game action, Philly just knocked out our starter and is getting home.. it's a reasonable assumption, given the evidence.

Point is, they are guessing as much as anyone else. Like I said, it's possible he didn't have a single progression on the snap he fumbled. No one other than Kyle and the players know.

well i mean look at the play art the all 22..should answer the question.. in the booth they saw the whole field, we didn't really on the broadcast
what is the point you are trying to make.. JJ screwed up

Sure JJ screwed up.. I'm not trying to make a point, just find the discussion interesting of coaching decisions.. clearly KS bet JJ would not screw up in that moment, he felt JJ was up to the task of driving us downfield
JJ is the QB, you have to throw the ball sometimes

The oddity was KS was in the same spot last week with BP and decided to burn clock. With JJ it's let it rip. With hindsight, it was a poor decision.
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
I Said "we should look Into It" nothing wrong with trying to Improve the team.

Brendel Is a journeyman who actually looked decent tbf.
Burford Is still young, so maybe he has potential?

Replacing Kin, whilst finding a way to upgrade the ST would still be an Improvement, would It not?

I know It's not easy replacing starters In this league, but that's why you have the draft and free agency.
no no no, don't back pedal now. 49ers look into upgrading all the time win or lose

You and NC clearly posted what needs to be done and gave half sided opinions.. Pointing something out does not solve anything

You didn't answer my question?

By replacing Kin and upgrading the ST, would that not be considered an Improvement?
tell me who we are replacing them with, so i can give you an answer

Anyone would be an Improvement over Kinlaw at this point.
So Kinlaw is the only one now from your blanket list..

Well we have someone already that can replace him
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Someone reasonable finally shows up. Not like the same 5-7 posters who are still sitting on Kyle's 3 incher

Yep, its time for a break. Act right when you come back or the next timeout will be a lot longer.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The oddity was KS was in the same spot last week with BP and decided to burn clock. With JJ it's let it rip. With hindsight, it was a poor decision.

It was a poor play by Josh Johnson. End of story. Where the blame starts and ends.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Jan 30, 2023 at 11:23 AM ]
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Not that so much, more having him drop back and go thru progressions.. KS def made a choice to dial up some downfield throws before half. It backfired bigtime. If he does his normal conservative stuff, we likely go in down 7. Instead we went in down 14 and JJ's confidence shaken totally.

to edit - you can hear on the broadcast they mentioned he took his eye off the snap to hurry up and get a start on his progressions

The broadcasters have zero idea what JJ was going to do. Maybe he took his eye off it because he was going to throw a quick pass without going through progressions at all. They had zero knowledge of what he was going to do.

I wouldn't say zero knowledge.. they have some.. I mean they are pro broadcasters. Color guy was one of the best TEs I have seen play the game. So that's some knowledge. Inexperienced in big games QB, fierce rush, it's their words he took his eye off to look at the D / start his progressions.. given he's needed all the help in that respect he can get, he's not experienced at all in game action, Philly just knocked out our starter and is getting home.. it's a reasonable assumption, given the evidence.

Point is, they are guessing as much as anyone else. Like I said, it's possible he didn't have a single progression on the snap he fumbled. No one other than Kyle and the players know.

well i mean look at the play art the all 22..should answer the question.. in the booth they saw the whole field, we didn't really on the broadcast
what is the point you are trying to make.. JJ screwed up

Sure JJ screwed up.. I'm not trying to make a point, just find the discussion interesting of coaching decisions.. clearly KS bet JJ would not screw up in that moment, he felt JJ was up to the task of driving us downfield
JJ is the QB, you have to throw the ball sometimes

The oddity was KS was in the same spot last week with BP and decided to burn clock. With JJ it's let it rip. With hindsight, it was a poor decision.
lol whats poor is you blaming the coach when QB is at fault
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
I Said "we should look Into It" nothing wrong with trying to Improve the team.

Brendel Is a journeyman who actually looked decent tbf.
Burford Is still young, so maybe he has potential?

Replacing Kin, whilst finding a way to upgrade the ST would still be an Improvement, would It not?

I know It's not easy replacing starters In this league, but that's why you have the draft and free agency.
no no no, don't back pedal now. 49ers look into upgrading all the time win or lose

You and NC clearly posted what needs to be done and gave half sided opinions.. Pointing something out does not solve anything

You didn't answer my question?

By replacing Kin and upgrading the ST, would that not be considered an Improvement?
tell me who we are replacing them with, so i can give you an answer

Anyone would be an Improvement over Kinlaw at this point.
So Kinlaw is the only one now from your blanket list..

Well we have someone already that can replace him

I'd like to Improve the ones I've mentioned, but kin and ST are the one's that should be easiest to upgrade.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Not that so much, more having him drop back and go thru progressions.. KS def made a choice to dial up some downfield throws before half. It backfired bigtime. If he does his normal conservative stuff, we likely go in down 7. Instead we went in down 14 and JJ's confidence shaken totally.

to edit - you can hear on the broadcast they mentioned he took his eye off the snap to hurry up and get a start on his progressions

The broadcasters have zero idea what JJ was going to do. Maybe he took his eye off it because he was going to throw a quick pass without going through progressions at all. They had zero knowledge of what he was going to do.

I wouldn't say zero knowledge.. they have some.. I mean they are pro broadcasters. Color guy was one of the best TEs I have seen play the game. So that's some knowledge. Inexperienced in big games QB, fierce rush, it's their words he took his eye off to look at the D / start his progressions.. given he's needed all the help in that respect he can get, he's not experienced at all in game action, Philly just knocked out our starter and is getting home.. it's a reasonable assumption, given the evidence.

Point is, they are guessing as much as anyone else. Like I said, it's possible he didn't have a single progression on the snap he fumbled. No one other than Kyle and the players know.

well i mean look at the play art the all 22..should answer the question.. in the booth they saw the whole field, we didn't really on the broadcast
what is the point you are trying to make.. JJ screwed up

Sure JJ screwed up.. I'm not trying to make a point, just find the discussion interesting of coaching decisions.. clearly KS bet JJ would not screw up in that moment, he felt JJ was up to the task of driving us downfield
JJ is the QB, you have to throw the ball sometimes

The oddity was KS was in the same spot last week with BP and decided to burn clock. With JJ it's let it rip. With hindsight, it was a poor decision.
lol whats poor is you blaming the coach when QB is at fault

Coach has room for improvement too. If you are not improving you are losing.
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
I Said "we should look Into It" nothing wrong with trying to Improve the team.

Brendel Is a journeyman who actually looked decent tbf.
Burford Is still young, so maybe he has potential?

Replacing Kin, whilst finding a way to upgrade the ST would still be an Improvement, would It not?

I know It's not easy replacing starters In this league, but that's why you have the draft and free agency.
no no no, don't back pedal now. 49ers look into upgrading all the time win or lose

You and NC clearly posted what needs to be done and gave half sided opinions.. Pointing something out does not solve anything

You didn't answer my question?

By replacing Kin and upgrading the ST, would that not be considered an Improvement?
tell me who we are replacing them with, so i can give you an answer

Anyone would be an Improvement over Kinlaw at this point.
So Kinlaw is the only one now from your blanket list..

Well we have someone already that can replace him

I'd like to Improve the ones I've mentioned, but kin and ST are the one's that should be easiest to upgrade.
i would like to improve everyone.. so easy right
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Not that so much, more having him drop back and go thru progressions.. KS def made a choice to dial up some downfield throws before half. It backfired bigtime. If he does his normal conservative stuff, we likely go in down 7. Instead we went in down 14 and JJ's confidence shaken totally.

to edit - you can hear on the broadcast they mentioned he took his eye off the snap to hurry up and get a start on his progressions

He's a QB with 15 years of experience in the NFL, who has previous NFL starting experience and has been with this team under Shanahan enough times to have a good enough grasp of the playbook. It isn't at all unreasonable to expect him to handle basic QB s**t that any college level quarterback can do.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
I Said "we should look Into It" nothing wrong with trying to Improve the team.

Brendel Is a journeyman who actually looked decent tbf.
Burford Is still young, so maybe he has potential?

Replacing Kin, whilst finding a way to upgrade the ST would still be an Improvement, would It not?

I know It's not easy replacing starters In this league, but that's why you have the draft and free agency.
no no no, don't back pedal now. 49ers look into upgrading all the time win or lose

You and NC clearly posted what needs to be done and gave half sided opinions.. Pointing something out does not solve anything

You didn't answer my question?

By replacing Kin and upgrading the ST, would that not be considered an Improvement?
tell me who we are replacing them with, so i can give you an answer

Anyone would be an Improvement over Kinlaw at this point.
So Kinlaw is the only one now from your blanket list..

Well we have someone already that can replace him

I'd like to Improve the ones I've mentioned, but kin and ST are the one's that should be easiest to upgrade.
i would like to improve everyone.. so easy right

No one said it was easy. We have a number of draft picks. Maybe we find a few gems with those 5th rd picks?
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Not that so much, more having him drop back and go thru progressions.. KS def made a choice to dial up some downfield throws before half. It backfired bigtime. If he does his normal conservative stuff, we likely go in down 7. Instead we went in down 14 and JJ's confidence shaken totally.

to edit - you can hear on the broadcast they mentioned he took his eye off the snap to hurry up and get a start on his progressions

The broadcasters have zero idea what JJ was going to do. Maybe he took his eye off it because he was going to throw a quick pass without going through progressions at all. They had zero knowledge of what he was going to do.

I wouldn't say zero knowledge.. they have some.. I mean they are pro broadcasters. Color guy was one of the best TEs I have seen play the game. So that's some knowledge. Inexperienced in big games QB, fierce rush, it's their words he took his eye off to look at the D / start his progressions.. given he's needed all the help in that respect he can get, he's not experienced at all in game action, Philly just knocked out our starter and is getting home.. it's a reasonable assumption, given the evidence.

Point is, they are guessing as much as anyone else. Like I said, it's possible he didn't have a single progression on the snap he fumbled. No one other than Kyle and the players know.

well i mean look at the play art the all 22..should answer the question.. in the booth they saw the whole field, we didn't really on the broadcast
what is the point you are trying to make.. JJ screwed up

Sure JJ screwed up.. I'm not trying to make a point, just find the discussion interesting of coaching decisions.. clearly KS bet JJ would not screw up in that moment, he felt JJ was up to the task of driving us downfield
JJ is the QB, you have to throw the ball sometimes

The oddity was KS was in the same spot last week with BP and decided to burn clock. With JJ it's let it rip. With hindsight, it was a poor decision.
lol whats poor is you blaming the coach when QB is at fault

Coach has room for improvement too. If you are not improving you are losing.
you can still lose with improvements
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Not that so much, more having him drop back and go thru progressions.. KS def made a choice to dial up some downfield throws before half. It backfired bigtime. If he does his normal conservative stuff, we likely go in down 7. Instead we went in down 14 and JJ's confidence shaken totally.

to edit - you can hear on the broadcast they mentioned he took his eye off the snap to hurry up and get a start on his progressions

He's a QB with 15 years of experience in the NFL, who has previous NFL starting experience and has been with this team under Shanahan enough times to have a good enough grasp of the playbook. It isn't at all unreasonable to expect him to handle basic QB s**t that any college level quarterback can do.

This guy gets it!
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