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Originally posted by Sickaa:
Why not ask kittle to block Reddick Instead? Just curious.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Any chance we can talk him out of retirement?
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Joe Thomas not having any of Skeletors brain dead takes.
All the people criticizing, Kyle Shanahan for blocking Hassan Redick with their tight end, need to be criticizing any team that runs effective play action passing all season long
— Joe Thomas (@joethomas73) January 30, 2023
You can't have it both ways, you either always put your OL on the best pass rushers… https://t.co/PkiEpDj8y7
and then your play action never looks like the run, and you never get that advantage, or, you pick and choose your opportunities to run play action for huge chunk plays and you remain one of the best offenses in the NFL…
— Joe Thomas (@joethomas73) January 30, 2023
There's a reason that Shanahan disciples running his offenses are taking over the league… It's because it works, not every time, but that is The basics of running outside zone and play action pass. You have to count on your TEs and RBs to occasionally block good pass rushers…
— Joe Thomas (@joethomas73) January 30, 2023
And your QB just understands where the strengths and weaknesses in the protection are, and where he can slide and move in the pocket to buy time for downfield throws@MitchSchwartz71 @Nate_Tice @danorlovsky7 @gregolsen88
— Joe Thomas (@joethomas73) January 30, 2023
It's a debate. Joe Thomas on one side. Howie Long on the other. Sometimes there is not a 'right' answer. Just a dif opinion / flip side of the coin. Long def said at halftime we effed that up from a scheme point of view.
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Unfortunately this is the state of our nuanced fan base. George Seifert, a coach that took this team on deep playoff runs year in and year out, was fired because he couldn't help us overcome an obstacle. Steve Mariucci, who took this team deep into the playoffs multiple times, was fired because he couldn't take this team over the hump.
This is a franchise that prides itself on excellence. And excellence is measured by SB wins. I know some of you weren't around during that era, but it doesn't change the aura that surrounds this team. You can't keep losing NFCC games and Super Bowls and call them successfull seasons. They're not. They weren't in 1992/1993. They weren't in the 70s. They certainly aren't now.
Kyle has been on the sidelines for 6 years now. You cannot say that 3 of 4 NFCC appearances is a huge success. It's as laughable as saying that Andy Reid's countless NFCC game appearances with the Eagles were a huge success.
The Eagles are on the brink of winning a 2nd Lombardi trophy in the same span that Kyle has been our coach. Except they're going to accomplish it with 2 different coaching staffs, and two different quarterbacks. We have the luxury of having continuity and yet we have nothing to show for it.
But, as I said, our fan base has become loose. It's no longer about winning the championship. There's always next year has become something of a norm around theee parts. It's sickening. And yea, Kyle is part of that problem whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
After Mooch was fired - how many years it took to find a good coach?
Yes, I understand the 'be careful what you wish for' mantra. And I also acknowledge that after Mooch the team was in salary cap hell for a good portion of the early to mid 00s, so that had some impact on the level of talent on this team.
But it doesn't excuse that anything less than a SB is utter FAILURE for this franchise. How some fans fail to see that is mind boggling. I was reading through this forum last night, and there were posters saying things like 'well look at the Lions, look at the Browns'. Why should we look at the Lions or the Browns ? We're not them. We're a storied franchise.
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Until he can find ways to keep our QB's healthy I'm not sure we can win. You can't be on your 5th QB. Emergency QB.
100%.
you know who has stayed healthy despite being old, having no RB, and a much diminished OL an offense?
TB12
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Why not ask kittle to block Reddick Instead? Just curious.
They did on occasion but he didn't do much better. That guy needs to be double teamed like the do against Bosa but you can't do that on every play. Not when the rest of your D line is good.
Originally posted by socal1632:
This is well beyond a trend now with Kyle Shottenheimer. Kyle's system works just well enough to not get over the hump, if you have Bosa and Dee Ford on opposite edges.knuckleheads didn't replace Ford and now need a strengthened oline on Mcglinchy's side with that Eagles dline monster. Apparently Reddick was laughing before the snap on that Purdy injury play. 7 years in and Kyle is still an in game screwup. I would guess that next year will be it for this regime if they don't win it. Kyle has had his window.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Until he can find ways to keep our QB's healthy I'm not sure we can win. You can't be on your 5th QB. Emergency QB.
100%.
you know who has stayed healthy despite being old, having no RB, and a much diminished OL an offense?
TB12
Because he is smart about it. He knows when he's about to get hit and just goes down, rather than getting hurt. A lot of people made fun of him for it, saying he looks like he's afraid to get hit. But he has the same sense of how to avoid injury as Jerry Rice did.
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Until he can find ways to keep our QB's healthy I'm not sure we can win. You can't be on your 5th QB. Emergency QB.
100%.
you know who has stayed healthy despite being old, having no RB, and a much diminished OL an offense?
TB12
Because he is smart about it. He knows when he's about to get hit and just goes down, rather than getting hurt. A lot of people made fun of him for it, saying he looks like he's afraid to get hit. But he has the same sense of how to avoid injury as Jerry Rice did.
exactly. he gets the ball out before he gets hit. that kind of football knowledge an experiecne would take a roster like this so far.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Until he can find ways to keep our QB's healthy I'm not sure we can win. You can't be on your 5th QB. Emergency QB.
100%.
you know who has stayed healthy despite being old, having no RB, and a much diminished OL an offense?
TB12
Because he is smart about it. He knows when he's about to get hit and just goes down, rather than getting hurt. A lot of people made fun of him for it, saying he looks like he's afraid to get hit. But he has the same sense of how to avoid injury as Jerry Rice did.
exactly. he gets the ball out before he gets hit. that kind of football knowledge an experiecne would take a roster like this so far.
Yup, but we know they turned down TB years ago prior to him signing with Tampa. That was a mistake of course, however, they may feel the same way esp with Brady being even older.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by socal1632:
This is well beyond a trend now with Kyle Shottenheimer. Kyle's system works just well enough to not get over the hump, if you have Bosa and Dee Ford on opposite edges.knuckleheads didn't replace Ford and now need a strengthened oline on Mcglinchy's side with that Eagles dline monster. Apparently Reddick was laughing before the snap on that Purdy injury play. 7 years in and Kyle is still an in game screwup. I would guess that next year will be it for this regime if they don't win it. Kyle has had his window.
Leash is long unless we have a lost season next year, with no development at the QB spot.
Originally posted by picklejuice:
What I like about Kyle + Lynch regime are all the minority HC and GM candidates getting hired. We should get way more than just 3rd round picks...how about extra cap space and some money from the league
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Until he can find ways to keep our QB's healthy I'm not sure we can win. You can't be on your 5th QB. Emergency QB.
100%.
you know who has stayed healthy despite being old, having no RB, and a much diminished OL an offense?
TB12
Because he is smart about it. He knows when he's about to get hit and just goes down, rather than getting hurt. A lot of people made fun of him for it, saying he looks like he's afraid to get hit. But he has the same sense of how to avoid injury as Jerry Rice did.
exactly. he gets the ball out before he gets hit. that kind of football knowledge an experiecne would take a roster like this so far.
Yup, but we know they turned down TB years ago prior to him signing with Tampa. That was a mistake of course, however, they may feel the same way esp with Brady being even older.
ya at some point your just too old. but honestly has he shown any signs of that yet? i dont think so.