49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by picklejuice:
What I like about Kyle + Lynch regime are all the minority HC and GM candidates getting hired. We should get way more than just 3rd round picks...how about extra cap space and some money from the league

We should use those extra picks to beef up the OL.

They don't have a choice. Not beating the Eagles without a better Oline specifically on Mglinchy's side.

There's no coincidence that he's had countless of his QBs get hurt going back to his Washington days. Time to adjust, Kyle.

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
ya at some point your just too old. but honestly has he shown any signs of that yet? i dont think so.

He showed it all season long. That team had plenty of receiving talent and he couldn't get them the ball.

Originally posted by MrGriz:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Kyle takes us to 3 NFC championship games out of 4, this year going down to a 4th string QB, and you still have "fans" calling for his job.

Be careful what you wish for.

We have trash fans. Plain and simple.

it's not really the fans. it's just like 4 people on this forum with 239087 accounts

100%

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
As an older guy here who experienced just how dominant of a franchise we were in the late 80's and early 90's, the younger fans don't realize how important these "close but no cigar" seasons are until you get older. Then you blink and it's been 50 years since your team has won their last Super Bowl. If Kyle can't get it done with the dominant teams he's had he's got to go. This team is getting older. We won't have unlimited "we'll get it done next year". Before we all know it we'll be in another rebuild looking back at these last 4 years thinking "if only we had done this or that".
The golden state warriors fired mark Jackson and the fans damn near revolted. They brought in Steve Kerr who helped the team over the hump and into an era of multiple championships. I know Kyle is popular but maybe he doesn't have what's needed to get this team a Super Bowl WIN. I don't know why that is so unpopular to say out loud.

Its unpopular because its an absurd take to a crazy situation. Nick Sirianni couldn't win a regular season game with his second QB. Andy Reid was unwilling to tell Patrick Mahommes no and play his 2nd QB against the Jaguars. And then you and other make a post like this after Kyle couldn't win a game after his 3rd AND 4th QBs got hurt against the team that had been the best in the NFC all year.

To top it all off, the fans supporting that position want to try and pass themselves off as objective. Thats why its unpopular. There are big things you can criticize about Kyle.

We were robbed of the chance to see if we could win. Now some might say a bit of that falls on Kyle because of how he drew up the play. Maybe so. I admittedly want to see more from our O-line, and that will only come with development and better use of draft capital (no more 3rd round RBs or guys with medical red flags).

But unlike the 90s, we don't have an older QB with multiple concussions. That is what closed our window. I think we have 1 with Brock and if the staff believes in Trey, that could make two. I'm wondering if Brock will get any ticky tack calls in his favor next year (all the darling QBs do). As long as the QB is there, you have a shot. Our core guys are signed and in their primes, save for Trent Williams. And unlike before, the QB is better and has elevated the offense.

In pite of being here 3 out of 4, this one time, I do think we faced a better team. Ironically I also think a healthy Brock beats Philly yesterday, but it doesn't change that Philly is really good.

Since you want to use the Warriors analogy, how about the AFC Coach in the Super Bowl. Took Andy Reid forever to finally win. And he is there for the 3rd time with the Chiefs. Losing big games doesn't mean you can't get it done.

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Originally posted by socal1632:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by picklejuice:
What I like about Kyle + Lynch regime are all the minority HC and GM candidates getting hired. We should get way more than just 3rd round picks...how about extra cap space and some money from the league

We should use those extra picks to beef up the OL.

They don't have a choice. Not beating the Eagles without a better Oline specifically on Mglinchy's side.

Hopefully, as Burford gains experience, his PP will improve. At year's end, he was the lowest-rated PP of all the OL. Brunskill, while he was in, was second only to Trent in PP, albeit a 74 rating leaves a gap to TW's 88.

(for those who hate PFF you can ignore this post )

Originally posted by PurdyHardRightNow:
Still can't win the big important playoff games. I feel like this man might be cursed

All playoff games are important. How do you get to Conf. Finals in b2b years without winning "important" playoff games"

lol some ppl just say goofy stuff

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by PurdyHardRightNow:
Still can't win the big important playoff games. I feel like this man might be cursed

All playoff games are important. How do you get to Conf. Finals in b2b years without winning "important" playoff games"

lol some ppl just say goofy stuff

Yes all playoff games are important and he has a proven track record of losing in pivotal moments and games stretching back to his days in Atlanta and even Washington. Dude is cursed

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Joe Thomas not having any of Skeletors brain dead takes.

All the people criticizing, Kyle Shanahan for blocking Hassan Redick with their tight end, need to be criticizing any team that runs effective play action passing all season long

You can't have it both ways, you either always put your OL on the best pass rushers… https://t.co/PkiEpDj8y7

— Joe Thomas (@joethomas73) January 30, 2023

and then your play action never looks like the run, and you never get that advantage, or, you pick and choose your opportunities to run play action for huge chunk plays and you remain one of the best offenses in the NFL…

— Joe Thomas (@joethomas73) January 30, 2023

There's a reason that Shanahan disciples running his offenses are taking over the league… It's because it works, not every time, but that is The basics of running outside zone and play action pass. You have to count on your TEs and RBs to occasionally block good pass rushers…

— Joe Thomas (@joethomas73) January 30, 2023

And your QB just understands where the strengths and weaknesses in the protection are, and where he can slide and move in the pocket to buy time for downfield throws@MitchSchwartz71 @Nate_Tice @danorlovsky7 @gregolsen88

— Joe Thomas (@joethomas73) January 30, 2023

Yup. Unit pass protection. If you want to run this system the TE's, FB, RB and even WR's need to be able to hold in PP. Otherwise we'd just use an extra OL each time which would defeat the very purpose.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Yup. Unit pass protection. If you want to run this system the TE's, FB, RB and even WR's need to be able to hold in PP. Otherwise we'd just use an extra OL each time which would defeat the very purpose.

I hear ppl make the excuse of well we need better blocking. We have Trent Williams widely regarded as #1 LT active. Kittle a fierce blocker. Juice. McG a top 10 pick. I think in terms of blocking talent we are top 10 maybe top 5. Our WRs can block.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Yup. Unit pass protection. If you want to run this system the TE's, FB, RB and even WR's need to be able to hold in PP. Otherwise we'd just use an extra OL each time which would defeat the very purpose.

I hear ppl make the excuse of well we need better blocking. We have Trent Williams widely regarded as #1 LT active. Kittle a fierce blocker. Juice. McG a top 10 pick. I think in terms of blocking talent we are top 10 maybe top 5. Our WRs can block.

Run blocking they are elite. Outside of Trent, none of those guys are very good in pass protection. That's a different skill set altogether.

The takes on the last few pages have been completely asinine, but right or wrong, he's going to be labeled as a choker until he isn't. It comes with the territory and is something he will have to live with forever.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I hear ppl make the excuse of well we need better blocking. We have Trent Williams widely regarded as #1 LT active. Kittle a fierce blocker. Juice. McG a top 10 pick. I think in terms of blocking talent we are top 10 maybe top 5. Our WRs can block.

They need to upgrade the #2 TE. Either get a monster blocker or a guy that can stretch the field as a receiving threat. It feels like after Kittle they've been doing the absolute bare minimum at the position despite how often the second TE gets out on the field.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
They need to upgrade the #2 TE. Either get a monster blocker or a guy that can stretch the field as a receiving threat. It feels like after Kittle they've been doing the absolute bare minimum at the position despite how often the second TE gets out on the field.

Whatever happened to Woerner? I remember he was supposed to be a monster blocker as a TE coming into the draft.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I hear ppl make the excuse of well we need better blocking. We have Trent Williams widely regarded as #1 LT active. Kittle a fierce blocker. Juice. McG a top 10 pick. I think in terms of blocking talent we are top 10 maybe top 5. Our WRs can block.

They need to upgrade the #2 TE. Either get a monster blocker or a guy that can stretch the field as a receiving threat. It feels like after Kittle they've been doing the absolute bare minimum at the position despite how often the second TE gets out on the field.

Geseki will be a FA

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Geseki will be a FA

Too expensive and some team will sign him to be a #1.