49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Scooper1:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Ton of people on this board are satisfied with participation trophies….

Not expecting fans to be frustrated with this organization the way the past 28 years have panned how is pretty ridiculous especially the last 12. I've supported and defended Shanahan ever since he was hired, but Sunday got exposed, but let's all sing Kumbaya because maybe in 15 years he may finally win a Super Bowl like Andy Reid (as if there's any guarantee that any of us will be alive to live that long)

Going to NFCC isn't the same as participation trophies…stop comparing it to just showing up. The Texans get a participation trophy. 28 other teams don't even make it to there…crying about that is pretty sad imo. Go be a fan in NY, they got a reason to be upset. The giants won their first playoff game in over a decade. Cowboys haven't even been to a NFCC game in like 27 years. You got teams with HOF/elite QBs doing less.

Complaining about winning 10+ games a year, playoff games, going to a SB and NFCCs is like complaining about eating filet mignon and not getting wagyu, while over 80% of the league is eating hotdogs

Bingo! Absolutely devastating way to "not advance" to the super bowl. It's hard to even feel like it's a loss to me. We didn't even get to play them. I could have handled a loss (after weeks of misery) but not even being able to compete is painful. Another fun season with ups and downs. We have the right front office, coach, and many key positions in places. Keep chipping away and it will happen. The days of winning a super bowl every year for any team are so far gone:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Football is also game of matches and mismatches too. The best coaches put their best guy against your worst guy. Happens all the time. Its a pretty common tactic. Both Brock and Slowik are rookies - i hope the experience teaches them a valuable lesson.

I mean I've seen TEs blocking all kinds of DEs on those play action plays…usually there's some sort of boot away from it, but it's a common play regardless. Brock's gotta have a better internal clock there too. Like you said rookies.

The only thing I'm upset with regarding Kyle from that game is not challenging that catch. Toss that flag out there, it's 4th down and it's the first QR. I'm also shocked the NFL didn't look at it in NY.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

It wasn't a scoring play or a turnover, so NY wouldn't do anything anyway. To me, if a player gets up calling for the ball to be snapped quick, it is OBVIOUS you need to challenge and someone should have been in Kyle's ear. When I saw Devonta's reaction I was screaming for the challenge to come out.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
It wasn't a scoring play or a turnover, so NY wouldn't do anything anyway. To me, if a player gets up calling for the ball to be snapped quick, it is OBVIOUS you need to challenge and someone should have been in Kyle's ear. When I saw Devonta's reaction I was screaming for the challenge to come out.

How it was resolved: The Eagles were ready to run the next play quickly and got the snap off 28 seconds after the previous snap. That made the play irreversible even if replays later showed evidence of a drop.

Analysis: Fox showed a replay several minutes later that clearly showed the ball hitting the ground before Smith had fully secured it via the NFL's catch rule. 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan never challenged it, likely because his coaches and advisers in the booth didn't see the definitive replay in time. But there was another way the call could have been rectified.

The NFL instituted a new rule at the start of the 2021 season, alternately known as the "replay assist" or "expedited review" rule, that allows either an on-site replay official or a member of the league office in New York to make a quick reversal when there is immediate, clear and obvious evidence that one is necessary. To make the process more efficient, the NFL imported Hawk-Eye replay technology that pulls in all replays instantaneously rather than waiting for the broadcast network to put them on air.

The process has been met with rave reviews and has helped in shortening the average length of games over the past two seasons. But for reasons that were not immediately clear, it was not employed in this case.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
There's a few decisions by Shanny that I question. Everybody gives him a pass because there was no chance without Brock being able to throw, but Kyle was pretty bad himself

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
It wasn't a scoring play or a turnover, so NY wouldn't do anything anyway. To me, if a player gets up calling for the ball to be snapped quick, it is OBVIOUS you need to challenge and someone should have been in Kyle's ear. When I saw Devonta's reaction I was screaming for the challenge to come out.

This was from ESPN on that play…

How it was resolved: The Eagles were ready to run the next play quickly and got the snap off 28 seconds after the previous snap. That made the play irreversible even if replays later showed evidence of a drop.

Analysis: Fox showed a replay several minutes later that clearly showed the ball hitting the ground before Smith had fully secured it via the NFL's catch rule. 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan never challenged it, likely because his coaches and advisers in the booth didn't see the definitive replay in time. But there was another way the call could have been rectified.

The NFL instituted a new rule at the start of the 2021 season, alternately known as the "replay assist" or "expedited review" rule, that allows either an on-site replay official or a member of the league office in New York to make a quick reversal when there is immediate, clear and obvious evidence that one is necessary. To make the process more efficient, the NFL imported Hawk-Eye replay technology that pulls in all replays instantaneously rather than waiting for the broadcast network to put them on air.

The process has been met with rave reviews and has helped in shortening the average length of games over the past two seasons. But for reasons that were not immediately clear, it was not employed in this case.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
It wasn't a scoring play or a turnover, so NY wouldn't do anything anyway. To me, if a player gets up calling for the ball to be snapped quick, it is OBVIOUS you need to challenge and someone should have been in Kyle's ear. When I saw Devonta's reaction I was screaming for the challenge to come out.

This was from ESPN on that play…

How it was resolved: The Eagles were ready to run the next play quickly and got the snap off 28 seconds after the previous snap. That made the play irreversible even if replays later showed evidence of a drop.

Analysis: Fox showed a replay several minutes later that clearly showed the ball hitting the ground before Smith had fully secured it via the NFL's catch rule. 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan never challenged it, likely because his coaches and advisers in the booth didn't see the definitive replay in time. But there was another way the call could have been rectified.

The NFL instituted a new rule at the start of the 2021 season, alternately known as the "replay assist" or "expedited review" rule, that allows either an on-site replay official or a member of the league office in New York to make a quick reversal when there is immediate, clear and obvious evidence that one is necessary. To make the process more efficient, the NFL imported Hawk-Eye replay technology that pulls in all replays instantaneously rather than waiting for the broadcast network to put them on air.

The process has been met with rave reviews and has helped in shortening the average length of games over the past two seasons. But for reasons that were not immediately clear, it was not employed in this case.

Damn, I didn't know that. That sucks, but just based on Smith's reaction alone they should have challenged. Just really sucks because had that been reversed, the entire game plays out differently, and maybe Purdy doesn't get injured.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Football is also game of matches and mismatches too. The best coaches put their best guy against your worst guy. Happens all the time. Its a pretty common tactic. Both Brock and Slowik are rookies - i hope the experience teaches them a valuable lesson.

They had Woerner blocking Parsons and Lawrence a few times just a week earlier.

If you don't ever want the 49ers to run playaction again, sure you can guarantee that a TE won't end up blocking a DE.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Football is also game of matches and mismatches too. The best coaches put their best guy against your worst guy. Happens all the time. Its a pretty common tactic. Both Brock and Slowik are rookies - i hope the experience teaches them a valuable lesson.

They had Woerner blocking Parsons and Lawrence a few times just a week earlier.

If you don't ever want the 49ers to run playaction again, sure you can guarantee that a TE won't end up blocking a DE.

To me the key is it worked in the Dallas game and was a disaster in the Eagles game. There are lessons to be learned for Purdy and Slowik. Just from my faulty recollection, they didnt do a lot of passing until the 2nd half in the Dallas game . Kyle was trying to pass from the Git Go in the Eagles game, or so it seemed.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
There's a few decisions by Shanny that I question. Everybody gives him a pass because there was no chance without Brock being able to throw, but Kyle was pretty bad himself

Bad at what? What are you doing after you're down to QB4 then lose him? You can question not throwing a flag on that catch (without any view of the play), but what else? Objectively.

It's the NFCC and you're forced to toss out the 4th string then he's concussed. There is no game plan that you went over during the week that can all of a sudden be run efficiently. It was a worst case scenario. We don't have to force blame on everything.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I don't know anymore if we can win with this? His scheme, blocking and play calling gets QB'S killed. He can't keep QB'S healthy over and over for years. Not sure we can win like that. Maybe we need a new direction. We are literally down to our 5th string QB CMC.

I'm sorry guys that's ridiculous. We may need a different direction.

wtf are you even talking about..

The way he types is hilarious lol.

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
There's a few decisions by Shanny that I question. Everybody gives him a pass because there was no chance without Brock being able to throw, but Kyle was pretty bad himself

Bad at what? What are you doing after you're down to QB4 then lose him? You can question not throwing a flag on that catch (without any view of the play), but what else? Objectively.

It's the NFCC and you're forced to toss out the 4th string then he's concussed. There is no game plan that you went over during the week that can all of a sudden be run efficiently. It was a worst case scenario. We don't have to force blame on everything.

Agree. Shanahan is an elite coach there is no doubt about it. I think one might wonder if there are some things schematically with KS that are causing all these QB injuries, or if it really is just rotten luck.

Something else to consider is that in those championship games players are trying to compete at their highest. This can mean QB's hanging in longer to make throws in the face of pressure because of the stakes. Ie. what Purdy did. Perhaps if it was week 2 Purdy eats that hit instead of attempting it.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I don't know anymore if we can win with this? His scheme, blocking and play calling gets QB'S killed. He can't keep QB'S healthy over and over for years. Not sure we can win like that. Maybe we need a new direction. We are literally down to our 5th string QB CMC.

I'm sorry guys that's ridiculous. We may need a different direction.

wtf are you even talking about..

The way he types is hilarious lol.

lol very child like