49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by thl408:
Both Jimmy and Lance got their ankle bent backwards while being tackled. How is that scheme? Purdy got his arm smacked while throwing. How is that the scheme? You know how they got injured? By playing full contact football.

Johnson got hurt bc Kyle didn't double team 80 year old Suh.

Good one. JJ got hurt while inside the pocket. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB to be in the pocket.

Originally posted by thl408:
Both Jimmy and Lance got their ankle bent backwards while being tackled. How is that scheme? Purdy got his arm smacked while throwing. How is that the scheme? You know how they got injured? By playing full contact football.

When I watch the JG injury vs KC. He had the sideline and didn't take it. TL could have gotten down is my viewing of that play, he didn't. Steve Young played the game and said that as a QB trying to win over the room, you want to 'run through a brick wall for your guys'. His words. He said this the week after the Bear game, before the Seattle game. It's a coaches job, in my mind, to coach up some self preservation for the most important assets on the club. Both those guys were first year starters with us, and trying to win over their mates and show their grit, imo. KS does have a job of grabbing em by the shoulder and saying look you are too valuable to what we are building here to take unnecessary contact, meaning contact when you can get down or out of bounds.

Brock was a lil different more a bad luck injury, hit while throwing at the exact worst spot. Football is football and there will be contact and injury. No way around it. I feel with some self preservation coached into these guys the last 5 years look a lot different.

Originally posted by thl408:
Lance got hurt running the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB run the ball.
Jimmy got hurt evading the pocket. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB work the pocket.
Brock got hurt throwing the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB to throw the ball.
What does that leave us with?

Quick Kick offense LFG

The trick is to somehow field 12 players on offense without getting caught

Originally posted by grapesofrathman:
The trick is to somehow field 12 players on offense without getting caught

If we don't have a QB, QB won't get hurt

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by thl408:
Both Jimmy and Lance got their ankle bent backwards while being tackled. How is that scheme? Purdy got his arm smacked while throwing. How is that the scheme? You know how they got injured? By playing full contact football.

Johnson got hurt bc Kyle didn't double team 80 year old Suh.

Good one. JJ got hurt while inside the pocket. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB to be in the pocket.

Kyle already finally figured it out last game...exclusive Wild Cat.

Originally posted by scooterhd:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Well I was thinking we better be careful here

Of course it wasn't the sack/fumble or int I felt coming but Josh did find a way to blow it all together. We've seen Kyle go conservative so many times in that situation.

Even if we don't count that, he still handed them 7 and took 3-7 points from us in the first half. Just can't have a 10-14 point swing like that in the playoffs.

We are down by 7. We've got a 4th string QB in that KS knows is terrible. Points arent going to come easy. There is still time for the Eagles to get the ball and score. They have timeouts left as well. Disaster would be a 3 and out, punt, and Eagles TD and we go in 21-7 with zero hope. Instead the thought is, lets move the chains and run some clock. Pray to God we can get a FG out of the drive. Go into half down 10-14 and getting the ball in the second and maybe get some better news about Brock. That was our only chance of winning. Dont have a problem trying to win. Thats what the punt block was about. We werent going to play conservative and beat them in a straight on fight.

The real mistake KS made was putting Purdy back in. No need to risk that mans arm. Let Juice run wildcat for all I care. At that point waiving the white towel and running to the locker room was just as sound a thought.

All I'm saying is i knew disaster was a high probability before it happened there. Josh Johnson is a camp arm/3rd stringer. You are playing with fire having him drop back and throw in Philly territory like that.

Kyle felt better running our normal plays and trying to hit screens. I have no complaints there. The wildcat wasn't going to do anything.

Originally posted by thl408:
Lance got hurt running the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB run the ball.
Jimmy got hurt evading the pocket. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB work the pocket.
Brock got hurt throwing the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB to throw the ball.
What does that leave us with?

Focusing better on specific matchups instead of just generalizing the entire process.

Not every O should go up against every X.

I don't think that's too controversial, either...with that statement I'm just parroting people who've played football professionally and know the sport much better.

Originally posted by TyCore:

Originally posted by thl408:
Lance got hurt running the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB run the ball.
Jimmy got hurt evading the pocket. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB work the pocket.
Brock got hurt throwing the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB to throw the ball.
What does that leave us with?

Focusing better on specific matchups instead of just generalizing the entire process.

Not every O should go up against every X.

I don't think that's too controversial, either...with that statement I'm just parroting people who've played football professionally and know the sport much better.

If we're talking scheme, I don't think there's a team out there over the past 6 years who've had more injuries to QB, WR, TE, RB and OL then us...not even close. FB has been the single healthy position but Juice is a workout warrior and smart in his contact.

Is it the scheme stressing position responsibilities? Or maybe the type of players needed to execute the scheme?

Either way, it's worth not generalizing and just passing it off as "just a contact sport" because if that simple-minded take was truth, all teams would be dealing with this. But every year we're leading the league in AGL. 8 years and counting.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Shanahan coaches to outsmart the opposing defenses with his playcalling. He completely leaves everything else to assistant coaches which is wrong. In big games, he gets outcoached overall in game decisions and game management. Either he needs to get more involved in all aspects of the coaching, or upgrade assistants where needed.

He won't do that. His ego gets in the way

Originally posted by thl408:
Lance got hurt running the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB run the ball.
Jimmy got hurt evading the pocket. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB work the pocket.
Brock got hurt throwing the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB to throw the ball.
What does that leave us with?

With the way Kyle used Lance since that Cardinals game, he was going to be injured.
You can´t let your QB run up the middle so much.
It can be Lance making wrong reads, I don´t know. And if that´s the case it´s up to Kyle to protect Lance from himself.
As for Jimmy and Brock, s**t happens.

I like that people don't seem to understand that when a play is called, you don't have a clue where the DE is going to be lined up/rushing from.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TyCore:

Originally posted by thl408:
Lance got hurt running the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB run the ball.
Jimmy got hurt evading the pocket. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB work the pocket.
Brock got hurt throwing the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB to throw the ball.
What does that leave us with?

Focusing better on specific matchups instead of just generalizing the entire process.

Not every O should go up against every X.

I don't think that's too controversial, either...with that statement I'm just parroting people who've played football professionally and know the sport much better.

If we're talking scheme, I don't think there's a team out there over the past 6 years who've had more injuries to QB, WR, TE, RB and OL then us...not even close. FB has been the single healthy position but Juice is a workout warrior and smart in his contact.

Is it the scheme stressing position responsibilities? Or maybe the type of players needed to execute the scheme?

Either way, it's worth not generalizing and just passing it off as "just a contact sport" because if that simple-minded take was truth, all teams would be dealing with this. But every year we're leading the league in AGL. 8 years and counting.

You do you, NC.

Are we back to scheme causes injuries shtick? My god lol

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by thl408:
Lance got hurt running the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB run the ball.
Jimmy got hurt evading the pocket. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB work the pocket.
Brock got hurt throwing the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB to throw the ball.
What does that leave us with?

With the way Kyle used Lance since that Cardinals game, he was going to be injured.
You can´t let your QB run up the middle so much.
It can be Lance making wrong reads, I don´t know. And if that´s the case it´s up to Kyle to protect Lance from himself.
As for Jimmy and Brock, s**t happens.

If only there were other teams who ran their QB up the middle without getting hurt we could compare to….