Originally posted by NYniner85:
Are we back to scheme causes injuries shtick? My god lol
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Jan 31, 2023 at 1:10 PM
- SLCNiner
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Jan 31, 2023 at 1:38 PM
- pdc20
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Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by pdc20:
Originally posted by thl408:
Lance got hurt running the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB run the ball.
Jimmy got hurt evading the pocket. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB work the pocket.
Brock got hurt throwing the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB to throw the ball.
What does that leave us with?
With the way Kyle used Lance since that Cardinals game, he was going to be injured.
You can´t let your QB run up the middle so much.
It can be Lance making wrong reads, I don´t know. And if that´s the case it´s up to Kyle to protect Lance from himself.
As for Jimmy and Brock, s**t happens.
If only there were other teams who ran their QB up the middle without getting hurt we could compare to….
Well we talked about the Eagles using Jalen Hurt´s running ability a lot and with ton of success.
But he injured his shoulder running being tackled by a DT.
And the way he played against the Niners, he´s clearly limited passing the ball.
Jan 31, 2023 at 1:57 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by TyCore:
Originally posted by thl408:
Lance got hurt running the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB run the ball.
Jimmy got hurt evading the pocket. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB work the pocket.
Brock got hurt throwing the ball. Let's go with a scheme that doesn't force the QB to throw the ball.
What does that leave us with?
Focusing better on specific matchups instead of just generalizing the entire process.
Not every O should go up against every X.
I don't think that's too controversial, either...with that statement I'm just parroting people who've played football professionally and know the sport much better.
If we're talking scheme, I don't think there's a team out there over the past 6 years who've had more injuries to QB, WR, TE, RB and OL then us...not even close. FB has been the single healthy position but Juice is a workout warrior and smart in his contact.
Is it the scheme stressing position responsibilities? Or maybe the type of players needed to execute the scheme?
Either way, it's worth not generalizing and just passing it off as "just a contact sport" because if that simple-minded take was truth, all teams would be dealing with this. But every year we're leading the league in AGL. 8 years and counting.
You do you, NC.
I don't need to do anything but manage the injury thread...this ain't normal. LOL
Jan 31, 2023 at 2:00 PM
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Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Are we back to scheme causes injuries shtick? My god lol
"It's just a contact sport." LOL
Historical AGL Ranks: Lower = Healthiest
2008 - 6th
2009 - 23rd
2010 - 4th
2011 - 8th (NFCCG)
2012 - 1st (Superbowl)
2013 - 23rd (NFCCG)
2014 - 26th
2015 - 26th
2016 - 24th
2017 - 23rd
2018 - 29th
2019 - 27th (Superbowl)
2020 - 32nd
2021 - 29th (NFCCG)
2022 - 4 QB's (NFCCG)
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 31, 2023 at 2:00 PM ]
Jan 31, 2023 at 2:01 PM
- DonnieDarko
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Are we back to scheme causes injuries shtick? My god lol
i'm so tired of this stupid ass take
this is football, any player can get hurt on any play, its f**king violent
there is a lot of luck involved whether fans like it or not. we were unlucky, end of story
[ Edited by DonnieDarko on Jan 31, 2023 at 2:02 PM ]
Jan 31, 2023 at 2:09 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Are we back to scheme causes injuries shtick? My god lol
"It's just a contact sport." LOL
Historical AGL Ranks: Lower = Healthiest
2008 - 6th
2009 - 23rd
2010 - 4th
2011 - 8th (NFCCG)
2012 - 1st (Superbowl)
2013 - 23rd (NFCCG)
2014 - 26th
2015 - 26th
2016 - 24th
2017 - 23rd
2018 - 29th
2019 - 27th (Superbowl)
2020 - 32nd
2021 - 29th (NFCCG)
2022 - 4 QB's (NFCCG)
Yeah the scheme is causing injuries.
Jan 31, 2023 at 2:18 PM
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Three head coaches from his staff after just six years as a head coach. That's remarkable.
Jan 31, 2023 at 2:19 PM
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Originally posted by captveg:
Three head coaches from his staff after just six years as a head coach. That's remarkable.
I'm not worried about losing anyone as long as Kyle is the coach.
Jan 31, 2023 at 2:22 PM
- ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by captveg:
Three head coaches from his staff after just six years as a head coach. That's remarkable.
And we haven't even won a Superbowl with Shanahan.
Jan 31, 2023 at 2:23 PM
- jreff22
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New training staff?
Jan 31, 2023 at 2:44 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Are we back to scheme causes injuries shtick? My god lol
"It's just a contact sport." LOL
Historical AGL Ranks: Lower = Healthiest
2008 - 6th
2009 - 23rd
2010 - 4th
2011 - 8th (NFCCG)
2012 - 1st (Superbowl)
2013 - 23rd (NFCCG)
2014 - 26th
2015 - 26th
2016 - 24th
2017 - 23rd
2018 - 29th
2019 - 27th (Superbowl)
2020 - 32nd
2021 - 29th (NFCCG)
2022 - 4 QB's (NFCCG)
Yeah the scheme is causing injuries.
I don't want to go that far but it definitely should be in the conservation as a contributing factor.
Jan 31, 2023 at 2:45 PM
- VaBeachNiner
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Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by captveg:
Three head coaches from his staff after just six years as a head coach. That's remarkable.
I'm not worried about losing anyone as long as Kyle is the coach.
True we just need to win the one that does count.
Jan 31, 2023 at 3:32 PM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Are we back to scheme causes injuries shtick? My god lol
"It's just a contact sport." LOL
Historical AGL Ranks: Lower = Healthiest
2008 - 6th
2009 - 23rd
2010 - 4th
2011 - 8th (NFCCG)
2012 - 1st (Superbowl)
2013 - 23rd (NFCCG)
2014 - 26th
2015 - 26th
2016 - 24th
2017 - 23rd
2018 - 29th
2019 - 27th (Superbowl)
2020 - 32nd
2021 - 29th (NFCCG)
2022 - 4 QB's (NFCCG)
Yeah the scheme is causing injuries.
I don't want to go that far but it definitely should be in the conservation as a contributing factor.
Yeah I mean offensive scheme leads to Nick Bosas ACL. Jason Verretts everything yeah it fits
Jan 31, 2023 at 4:41 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:Is there a scheme that doesn't involve contact at every position?
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Are we back to scheme causes injuries shtick? My god lol
"It's just a contact sport." LOL
Historical AGL Ranks: Lower = Healthiest
2008 - 6th
2009 - 23rd
2010 - 4th
2011 - 8th (NFCCG)
2012 - 1st (Superbowl)
2013 - 23rd (NFCCG)
2014 - 26th
2015 - 26th
2016 - 24th
2017 - 23rd
2018 - 29th
2019 - 27th (Superbowl)
2020 - 32nd
2021 - 29th (NFCCG)
2022 - 4 QB's (NFCCG)
Yeah the scheme is causing injuries.
I don't want to go that far but it definitely should be in the conservation as a contributing factor.
Yeah I mean offensive scheme leads to Nick Bosas ACL. Jason Verretts everything yeah it fits
Jan 31, 2023 at 4:45 PM
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Double edged sword
We're aggressive, physical, we want to make contact at every point and repeatedly punch teams in the mouth.
Other teams know this and have the choice to respond in kind.
There's certain injuries that are just purely bad luck, but we might just have to accept that the thing we love about this team also puts us at a higher risk.
We're aggressive, physical, we want to make contact at every point and repeatedly punch teams in the mouth.
Other teams know this and have the choice to respond in kind.
There's certain injuries that are just purely bad luck, but we might just have to accept that the thing we love about this team also puts us at a higher risk.