49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I guess we're just the unlucky ones.

Guy falls on Jimmys legs broken foot

Guy falls on Patricks legs high ankle sprain he can play on

Hurts runs a read option out two games with a shoulder injury. Lance brakes his ankle.

Josh Allen gets hit exactly like Brock, sprained UCL. Brock torn UCL.

So we only draft and acquire the unlucky QB's? LOL

Showing you how dumb it all is. Showing you it's not just us getting hurt

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
So we only draft and acquire the unlucky QB's? LOL

Why was there no injury in 2019?

There was. LOL. Of course.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
So we only draft and acquire the unlucky QB's? LOL

Why was there no injury in 2019?

There was. LOL. Of course.

At QB? No there wasn't

Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, IIRC, per Yac's research (?) it was our best year overall. I can't speak to the playoffs though. Things were different by then.

So the guard you hated for his pass blocking is now suddenly good at it? Person became suddenly good at it? 2nd year Mike was good at it?

Cmon now.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I guess we're just the unlucky ones.

Guy falls on Jimmys legs broken foot

Guy falls on Patricks legs high ankle sprain he can play on

Hurts runs a read option out two games with a shoulder injury. Lance brakes his ankle.

Josh Allen gets hit exactly like Brock, sprained UCL. Brock torn UCL.

So we only draft and acquire the unlucky QB's? LOL

Showing you how dumb it all is. Showing you it's not just us getting hurt

I know. I'm just playing. But we do have the most unlucky team in history. Nobody is even a close second.

When I consider scheme being part of the issue, I'm talking the entire grand scheme across all 6 years...QB, WR, TE, OL, RB, etc...FB has been the only healthy position. I don't see it any differently than Fangio's scheme overusing DL with the highest snap counts in the league and running them into the ground until they broke for good. That's (sheme) philosophy too...

Does it matter? Nope. The scheme isn't changing. You just need to be 3-deep with it here.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, IIRC, per Yac's research (?) it was our best year overall. I can't speak to the playoffs though. Things were different by then.

So the guard you hated for his pass blocking is now suddenly good at it? Person became suddenly good at it? 2nd year Mike was good at it?

Cmon now.

Actually he was a great example. Just like Brunskill. Very average to above-average player all year. Gets to the playoffs and gets punked. Granted, Person also hurt his neck badly and retired because of it.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I know. I'm just playing. But we do have the most unlucky team in history. Nobody is even a close second.

When I consider scheme being part of the issue, I'm talking the entire grand scheme across all 6 years...QB, WR, TE, OL, RB, etc...FB has been the only health position. I don't see it any differently than Fangio's scheme overusing DL with the highest snap counts and running them into the ground until they broke for good. That's (sheme) philosophy too...

Does it matter? Nope. The scheme isn't changing. You just need to be 3-deep with it here.

You need to show how exactly how the scheme is causing these injuries more frequently than other schemes. Otherwise all you have is a hypothesis

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So the guard you hated for his pass blocking is now suddenly good at it? Person became suddenly good at it? 2nd year Mike was good at it?

Cmon now.

I recall being told repeatedly how it sucked and all they did was run.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
I recall being told repeatedly how it sucked and all they did was run.

Because that fit the narrative in 2019. It doesn't fit the narrative in 2023. Now it's the 5th best pass protecting O line in the league is so bad it got all our qb's hurt and must be the sole focus of free agency and the draft.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So the guard you hated for his pass blocking is now suddenly good at it? Person became suddenly good at it? 2nd year Mike was good at it?

Cmon now.

I recall being told repeatedly how it sucked and all they did was run.

It was the best of the Shanahan era. I didn't say it was great. LOL. Run blocking? That was great!

Originally posted by NCommand:
It was the best of the Shanahan era. I didn't say it was great. LOL. Run blocking? That was great!

So the 2019 OL ranked higher than 5th best in pass blocking efficiency? I don't recall that.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
You need to show how exactly how the scheme is causing these injuries more frequently than other schemes. Otherwise all you have is a hypothesis

No I don't. None of Kyle's protégés run his system the same way. Even their philosophy is different. You don't need to look anywhere past what's in front of your face here. Or don't.

Explain to me how it's luck when it's been a recurring and consistent theme all 6 years? If it was luck, we'd easily have regressed back to the mean by now. In fact the AGL research shows you outlier teams usually bounce back to their norm or mean the very next year.

So explain to me the luck angle.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
this times 1000000.

Kyles the best offensive coach wev had in 10s of years. a long time. but as we are now spending more an more time with him, an going through more an more seasons with him we are learning a very sad an dissapointing thing. it looks like he does not want to grow/update/change/evolve. listen to how he talks an then look at the decisions he makes regarding players, drafting, an even calling plays. the dude is stubborn an refuses to adapt. we have an injury problem of epidemic levels and hes so used to it he thinks its normal. ITS NOT. look at last years NFCCG. the run was getting stuffed all game, were down in the 4th quarter and HAVE TO get a first down to not send the team home for the year. what does he decide to do? run our f**king FB up the middle into the DL that was shutting us down all day. insane.

these characteristics are now costing us SBs. had he made different decisions this season, or last season in that NFCCG im confident we move on an possibly win it all. but all the little mistakes an decisions he is making are now becoming the difference makers between us advancing an us going home. how long should we put up with this in the name of "oh but look at how many YAC Yards deebo had, or look at how many RBs he produces with" ? why tf does any of the offense matter if its pretty much a guarantee to get stopped in the playoffs.

im not here to see the 49ers have a 2000 yard RB im here to see the 49ers win trophy #6 as a team. he should remain our HC for now, but every year they keep blowing our chance at that, i continue to lose more faith in their strategy an stubborn refusal to address the problems holding us back from winning it all.

What is the problem that his holding us back from winning it all? Be extremely specific

theres reason #1. im not going to repeat myself on the others this season just shined a light on.

its really simple, if their willing to grow an change an adapt then eventually i think our great offensive advantages will net us a trophy. if they continue the same strategy they have the last 6 years even longer, then we will continue to never get past 3rd or 2nd place. never.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
You need to show how exactly how the scheme is causing these injuries more frequently than other schemes. Otherwise all you have is a hypothesis

No I don't. None of Kyle's protégés run his system the same way. Even their philosophy is different. You don't need to look anywhere past what's in front of your face here. Or don't.

Explain to me how it's luck when it's been a recurring and consistent theme all 6 years? If it was luck, we'd easily have regressed back to the mean by now. In fact the AGL research shows you outlier teams usually bounce back to their norm or mean the very next year.

So explain to me the luck angle.

most people dont care about the visual proof they see on the field NC. all that matters to them is manufactured ESPN an bleacher report stats/graphs/headlines that all have an AGENDA an goal to make you think a certain thing, whether its true or not.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
It was the best of the Shanahan era. I didn't say it was great. LOL. Run blocking? That was great!

So the 2019 OL ranked higher than 5th best in pass blocking efficiency? I don't recall that.

Oh no! Sorry. I wasn't comparing to this year. We were talking about the one year a QB played healthy all year and we rode that to the Superbowl. And to be fair, Jimmy was dinged up that year too but no knockout blows.