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Originally posted by NCommand:
No I don't. None of Kyle's protégés run his system the same way. Even their philosophy is different. You don't need to look anywhere past what's in front of your face here. Or don't.

Explain to me how it's luck when it's been a recurring and consistent theme all 6 years? If it was luck, we'd easily have regressed back to the mean by now. In fact the AGL research shows you outlier teams usually bounce back to their norm or mean the very next year.

So explain to me the luck angle.

Yes you do. You are making the claim the scheme is getting them hurt. The burden of proof is on you.

I don't need to explain it's luck because luck is only a placeholder until actual evidence is shown.

So what in the scheme specifcally in comparison to what Saleh or McDaniel do is causing the injuries?
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
You need to show how exactly how the scheme is causing these injuries more frequently than other schemes. Otherwise all you have is a hypothesis

I think it's fascinating kyles offensive scheme somehow overlaps to the defense and spans multiple coaching/FO/Medical regimes
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
theres reason #1. im not going to repeat myself on the others this season just shined a light on.

its really simple, if their willing to grow an change an adapt then eventually i think our great offensive advantages will net us a trophy. if they continue the same strategy they have the last 6 years even longer, then we will continue to never get past 3rd or 2nd place. never.

Change and adapt how? Be specific
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Feb 1, 2023 at 2:59 PM ]
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
most people dont care about the visual proof they see on the field NC. all that matters to them is manufactured ESPN an bleacher report stats/graphs/headlines that all have an AGENDA an goal to make you think a certain thing, whether its true or not.

TBF, we're probably never going to have a dominant OL again here under Kyle. That's just not his priority or goal. So we just have to hope our QB's stay healthy and can transcend any issues there. Hopefully we find that QB. Hopefully Brock is that guy.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
No I don't. None of Kyle's protégés run his system the same way. Even their philosophy is different. You don't need to look anywhere past what's in front of your face here. Or don't.

Explain to me how it's luck when it's been a recurring and consistent theme all 6 years? If it was luck, we'd easily have regressed back to the mean by now. In fact the AGL research shows you outlier teams usually bounce back to their norm or mean the very next year.

So explain to me the luck angle.

Yes you do. You are making the claim the scheme is getting them hurt. The burden of proof is on you.

I don't need to explain it's luck because luck is only a placeholder until actual evidence is shown.

So what in the scheme specifcally in comparison to what Saleh or McDaniel do is causing the injuries?

How much effing evidence do you need? Another 6 years worth of being 32nd in AGL? LOL. See and theorize all you want. The evidence (ends results) is right in front of you. Just like the OL topic and you're still dead on that hill. My guess...no amount of evidence will ever change your stance. And that's OK. That's why every year you're only 1 of about 3 people still dying on that lonely hill after the definition of insanity repeats it's theme.

We're on to QB4 and Colton McKivitz. LOL
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 1, 2023 at 3:05 PM ]
I've seen enough. I don't think you can win the Super Bowl with this. Super Bowl loss in Atlanta. Super loss 49ers. Multiple NFC Championship Game losses. I don't think he can win the big game. We gave it 6 years. I see getting bounced many more times in the NFC Championship Game.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I've seen enough. I don't think you can win the Super Bowl with this. Super Bowl loss in Atlanta. Super loss 49ers. Multiple NFC Championship Game losses. I don't think he can win the big game. We gave it 6 years. I see getting bounced many more times in the NFC Championship Game.

Getting to the championship game itself isn't easy. Sucks not to win but we're a high level operation with a chance each year.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I've seen enough. I don't think you can win the Super Bowl with this. Super Bowl loss in Atlanta. Super loss 49ers. Multiple NFC Championship Game losses. I don't think he can win the big game. We gave it 6 years. I see getting bounced many more times in the NFC Championship Game.

It's highly unlikely we get back to the NFCCG. We will have many more coaching, player and cap space losses this off season and our weaknesses aren't likely to magically get better (OL, DL, QB, health). But we are Faithful so you never know.
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 1, 2023 at 3:09 PM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I've seen enough. I don't think you can win the Super Bowl with this. Super Bowl loss in Atlanta. Super loss 49ers. Multiple NFC Championship Game losses. I don't think he can win the big game. We gave it 6 years. I see getting bounced many more times in the NFC Championship Game.

Does this mean you will go follow another team and stop posting?
Lol it's like a competition who can post the dumbest s**t
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I guess we're just the unlucky ones.

Guy falls on Jimmys legs broken foot

Guy falls on Patricks legs high ankle sprain he can play on

Hurts runs a read option out two games with a shoulder injury. Lance brakes his ankle.

Josh Allen gets hit exactly like Brock, sprained UCL. Brock torn UCL.

So we only draft and acquire the unlucky QB's? LOL

Showing you how dumb it all is. Showing you it's not just us getting hurt

I know. I'm just playing. But we do have the most unlucky team in history. Nobody is even a close second.

When I consider scheme being part of the issue, I'm talking the entire grand scheme across all 6 years...QB, WR, TE, OL, RB, etc...FB has been the only healthy position. I don't see it any differently than Fangio's scheme overusing DL with the highest snap counts in the league and running them into the ground until they broke for good. That's (sheme) philosophy too...

Does it matter? Nope. The scheme isn't changing. You just need to be 3-deep with it here.

I get the frustration. Not everything is about blaming something though.

I bet the fans of the chargers, eagles, steelers, browns would have something to say about team injuries all the same.
Originally posted by NCommand:
How much effing evidence do you need? Another 6 years worth of being 32nd in AGL? LOL. See and theorize all you want. The evidence (ends results) is right in front of you. Just like the OL topic and you're still dead on that hill. My guess...no amount of evidence will ever change your stance. And that's OK. That's why every year you're only 1 of about 3 people still dying on that lonely hill after the definition of insanity repeats it's theme.

We're on to QB4 and Colton McKivitz. LOL

What's the chargers excuse? They've been riddled with injuries forever. Different coaches. Different schemes. What's Tampa's excuse this year? They don't run our scheme on both sides of the ball. Tons of injuries this yr. Same with the Steelers. Eagles had a ton of injuries.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
How much effing evidence do you need? Another 6 years worth of being 32nd in AGL? LOL. See and theorize all you want. The evidence (ends results) is right in front of you. Just like the OL topic and you're still dead on that hill. My guess...no amount of evidence will ever change your stance. And that's OK. That's why every year you're only 1 of about 3 people still dying on that lonely hill after the definition of insanity repeats it's theme.

We're on to QB4 and Colton McKivitz. LOL

What's the chargers excuse? They've been riddled with injuries forever. Different coaches. Different schemes. What's Tampa's excuse this year? They don't run our scheme on both sides of the ball. Tons of injuries this yr. Same with the Steelers. Eagles had a ton of injuries.

Ravens too...

Kyle is to blame for those as well I guess.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
I don't want KS to be fired but he has major character flaws.

He cannot admit when he's wrong or has made a mistake. He's way too defensive. Comes off as an immature kid during his press conferences whenever someone questions him. You have to wonder if a guy with that kind of mindset has the ability to adapt and improve from criticism.

I've seen him own his mistakes plenty
Every season he has to adapt
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Lol it's like a competition who can post the dumbest s**t

The nachos I got delivered were soggy..that means 1) it was Kyle's fault, I feel emotionally injured 2) we aren't winning an SB till 2040 💩💩
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