Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
You need to show how exactly how the scheme is causing these injuries more frequently than other schemes. Otherwise all you have is a hypothesis
No I don't. None of Kyle's protégés run his system the same way. Even their philosophy is different. You don't need to look anywhere past what's in front of your face here. Or don't.
Explain to me how it's luck when it's been a recurring and consistent theme all 6 years? If it was luck, we'd easily have regressed back to the mean by now. In fact the AGL research shows you outlier teams usually bounce back to their norm or mean the very next year.
So explain to me the luck angle.
what.. what a cop out. you know that is some sorry s**t posting there.. absurd claims but doesn't need to provide any proof ..thats just weaksauce
but that is every NC post
NC, what is it about Kyle's scheme/operation/philosophy that makes it more injury prone for the players? I'll list some things so you can either use them, or perhaps it sparks a reason that I didn't list:
- amount of run plays called
- variation of run plays (blocking schemes)
- high amount of playaction
- high amount of presnap motion
- high amount of QB under center (compared to other teams)
- WRs often aligned in a reduced split (near the OT/TE)
- high amount of throws over the middle
- high amount of 21 personnel (using a FB)
- not enough 11 personnel (compared to other teams)
- practices are too hard
- practices are too easy (I listed both because I don't know how his practices compares to other teams)
- poor nutrition in the cafeteria (no idea how either of us can definitively claim either way on this)
I'll take a, "idk it just is", answer too.
Physicality. Like Fangio's old scheme eating through the front 7. We just are more run centric than any other team and that physicality catches up over time; and to the teams we just played (what, 0-11 the next week after playing us). Then to pass protection, it's hard to be run centric and then shift gears and pass protect esp. on PA and longer developing plays. IIRC, our average time to throw is 3.64s (that's a long time to hold). Throw in all the added miles on pre snap motion, blocking on the move, mismatches to run certain sets, it tends to put some on islands. Throw in the mental aspect...so much IQ goes into each play, guys running against the grain, etc. Smaller more agile against bigger, more physical DL...I know we moved away from that more this year for that reason. Just some thoughts typing out loud. Many more had been laid out in the injury thread over the years by many others. The cumulative wear and tear.
It's pretty moot though. The scheme isn't changing. So we just need to work around it and make sure we're 3 deep in every position minus FB. Like NY always says, "It is what it is..." I'm just adding, "...so make sure you're prepared for it annually." --- always carry 3 QB's, 4 TE's, 5 RB's, 10 OL, etc.
Just to clarify, I say the same thing about offenses that rely on running QB's. It's going to catch up eventually and this was the year every one got hurt.
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 1, 2023 at 6:01 PM ]
