49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I was shocked how many times our players got hurt came back later. Normally that's not the case for us. Deebos injury in years past he was gonna miss half the next season. AA would have been out the year. Greenlaw done for the year. But all those players just missed some games and came back. We also traded for a RB with a long injury history and he was healthy.

It's almost like it's random or something and can't be fully encapsulated without actual analysis of each event independently.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I was shocked how many times our players got hurt came back later. Normally that's not the case for us. Deebos injury in years past he was gonna miss half the next season. AA would have been out the year. Greenlaw done for the year. But all those players just missed some games and came back. We also traded for a RB with a long injury history and he was healthy.

It's almost like it's random or something and can't be fully encapsulated without actual analysis of each event independently.

I still blame the Bermuda Triangle

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I don't think it's fair at all to say fire him. Or even that he should be replaced. But it is fair to say his QB's have massive amounts of injuries. I've never heard of a team being down to their 5th string emergency QB. That's absurd. It's season after season too. Injury after injury. Lots of players and especially the QB. So they system, scheme, blocking scheme, offensive line and blocking TE's come into play. As we just saw in the NFC Championship Game.

It's not ridiculous to look at that and talk about it IMO. That's perfectly reasonable. We may need some adjustments there.

Reasonable like calling him a scrub head coach?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I don't think it's fair at all to say fire him. Or even that he should be replaced. But it is fair to say his QB's have massive amounts of injuries. I've never heard of a team being down to their 5th string emergency QB. That's absurd. It's season after season too. Injury after injury. Lots of players and especially the QB. So they system, scheme, blocking scheme, offensive line and blocking TE's come into play. As we just saw in the NFC Championship Game.

It's not ridiculous to look at that and talk about it IMO. That's perfectly reasonable. We may need some adjustments there.

Reasonable like calling him a scrub head coach?

I don't think he is. He's a pretty good coach. But he has some QB protection problems IMO. That needs to get fixed.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lane Johnson is 320lbs, Isaac Seumalo is 300lbs, and like you said Kelce is one of the smallest IOL in the league. Damn good right sight, far from big fat men. (Oddly enough it was Lane who's been injured the most).

our pass pro was fine this yr…we ran a PA with Brock and a TE blocking a good DE. Not the best play in the world, but the QB has to understand who's blocking whom and have a better internal clock. Greg Olsen was calling out Brock on that play…he said he notice Brock had been holding onto the ball longer than he should have been down the stretch.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by fl4sh080:
It's easy to say people don't watch football when talking about the injuries to the QB but when does it stop being "extremely bad luck" and when does it turn into a trend for this football team?

Jimmy G is working on his 3rd freak accident that cost him the majority of those seasons. Trey has had his second debilitating injury which ended up costing him this season. And Brock has now had his first which would have cost him his rookie season if it wasn't already over.

I've watched plenty of other teams over the years and SF has been the poster child for QB injuries over the past 5 years.

Which NFL teams have been devastated more by it than the Niners?

QB injuries cost us the season in 2018, 2020, and 2022. Sure there were others injuries but QB is the most important and Shanahan hasn't shown he can keep his QB's healthy for long stretches or let alone consecutive seasons. I figured Jimmy was just injury prone and maybe he is but what about the other 2 QB's, both had season ending injuries this year as well?

Maybe you're right and there is nothing behind it but bottom line is Kyle needs to find a way to keep his QB healthy because having 3 "starting" QB's on his roster this year wasn't enough.

What's the chargers excuse? That team is constantly injured. Philly had a ton of injuries. Titans had a ton of injuries. Steelers were a mess…constant injuries.

It blows, but injuries are part of the game. Part execution and part players needing to be aware of how to take care of themselves…

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I don't think it's fair at all to say fire him. Or even that he should be replaced. But it is fair to say his QB's have massive amounts of injuries. I've never heard of a team being down to their 5th string emergency QB. That's absurd. It's season after season too. Injury after injury. Lots of players and especially the QB. So they system, scheme, blocking scheme, offensive line and blocking TE's come into play. As we just saw in the NFC Championship Game.

It's not ridiculous to look at that and talk about it IMO. That's perfectly reasonable. We may need some adjustments there.

Reasonable like calling him a scrub head coach?

I don't think he is. He's a pretty good coach. But he has some QB protection problems IMO. That needs to get fixed.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Umm, the QB or the center? Philly set us up that play. 4 down lineman + reddick wide left. Question: was the pass pro call for McG to slide off his guy to Brufurd so he can help with the 5th rusher? Instead Burford wound up doubling the spy over center -- just marking time, not really helping anyone.

I am wondering if the better scheme is to slide over to the extra rusher, Or was that the scheme but not executed correctly. Could easily be a franchise altering play. What do you think?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Umm, the QB or the center? Philly set us up that play. 4 down lineman + reddick wide left. Question: was the pass pro call for McG to slide off his guy to Brufurd so he can help with the 5th rusher? Instead Burford wound up doubling the spy over center -- just marking time, not really helping anyone.

I am wondering if the better scheme is to slide over to the extra rusher, Or was that the scheme but not executed correctly. Could easily be a franchise altering play. What do you think?

I'm not talking about that play, I'm talking about lineman size. You complained about the size of our right side. Overall it's not vastly different than one of the better right sides in the NFL.

our center broken down that play and he basically said the issue was Reddick never stop to defend the run off the play-action. So either our QB didn't sell it well enough or he just gambled.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
...so what brendel is saying is that the blocking happened as designed and its normally ok because it relies on the wide guy pausing for the fake.

Anyway, 3 guys on our line are kinda small. McG is a little light for 6'8 so this happens occasionally:

Originally posted by evil:
That happens because Parsons is a freak beast not because of Glinch's weight.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I don't think it's fair at all to say fire him. Or even that he should be replaced. But it is fair to say his QB's have massive amounts of injuries. I've never heard of a team being down to their 5th string emergency QB. That's absurd. It's season after season too. Injury after injury. Lots of players and especially the QB. So they system, scheme, blocking scheme, offensive line and blocking TE's come into play. As we just saw in the NFC Championship Game.

It's not ridiculous to look at that and talk about it IMO. That's perfectly reasonable. We may need some adjustments there.

Reasonable like calling him a scrub head coach?

I don't think he is. He's a pretty good coach. But he has some QB protection problems IMO. That needs to get fixed.

Kyle is definitely Andy Reid 2.0

I imagine he will eventually win one in the twilight of his career. Hopefully it's with SF.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
...so what brendel is saying is that the blocking happened as designed and its normally ok because it relies on the wide guy pausing for the fake.

Anyway, 3 guys on our line are kinda small. McG is a little light for 6'8 so this happens occasionally: