49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Way different guys imo. Reid a lot more of a QB guru. He wants to push it downfield tends to favor the pass game. I don't see much similarity other than they are both HCs and both playcallers.

They both also lost multiple NFCCG and a super bowl within the first 6 seasons as head coach.

Definitely some similarities there between the two.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Way different guys imo. Reid a lot more of a QB guru. He wants to push it downfield tends to favor the pass game. I don't see much similarity other than they are both HCs and both playcallers.

They both also lost multiple NFCCG and a super bowl within the first 6 seasons as head coach.

Definitely some similarities there between the two.

Ah so not so much they are similar, just that their paths / are similar. Why Reid tho why not do like Dan Quinn or Z Taylor? K Wisenhunt? Lot of dudes lost Super Bowls.

I think ppl just stick with the Reid / KS comp cuz they are hopeful KS will win one. I don't like the comp tho cuz it means it will take a very long time and with another team. Let's do a diff comp.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Way different guys imo. Reid a lot more of a QB guru. He wants to push it downfield tends to favor the pass game. I don't see much similarity other than they are both HCs and both playcallers.

They both also lost multiple NFCCG and a super bowl within the first 6 seasons as head coach.

Definitely some similarities there between the two.

Ah so not so much they are similar, just that their paths / are similar. Why Reid tho why not do like Dan Quinn or Z Taylor? K Wisenhunt? Lot of dudes lost Super Bowls.

I think ppl just stick with the Reid / KS comp cuz they are hopeful KS will win one. I don't like the comp tho cuz it means it will take a very long time and with another team. Let's do a diff comp.

Maybe Sean Mcvay would be a better comparison since they have more similarities between them and they both became head coaches at the same time, as well as coaching In the same division. Much better comparison eh?

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Way different guys imo. Reid a lot more of a QB guru. He wants to push it downfield tends to favor the pass game. I don't see much similarity other than they are both HCs and both playcallers.

They both also lost multiple NFCCG and a super bowl within the first 6 seasons as head coach.

Definitely some similarities there between the two.

Ah so not so much they are similar, just that their paths / are similar. Why Reid tho why not do like Dan Quinn or Z Taylor? K Wisenhunt? Lot of dudes lost Super Bowls.

I think ppl just stick with the Reid / KS comp cuz they are hopeful KS will win one. I don't like the comp tho cuz it means it will take a very long time and with another team. Let's do a diff comp.

Maybe Sean Mcvay would be a better comparison since they have more similarities between them and they both became head coaches at the same time, as well as coaching In the same division. Much better comparison eh?

I agree. The shared background makes McVay a great comp. They run a lot of the same stuff. Both young and it's always a chess match vs LAR. Shame they got the first ring over us that year in the champ, however I feel KS is too good not to get his ring, just a matter of time.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Franchise408:
lmao Kyle Shanahan took this team to the NFC Championship with a 3rd string QB, and it took losing the 3rd AND 4th string QB's in the same game and having literally 0 QB's to finally beat him, and people are talking about how Shanahan is the problem.

Being "the problem" and needing to be better are 2 different things

2023 will be Kyle's 7th season as head coach of the 9ers and Is yet to find a QB who's good enough to get us over the hump.

That's the biggest problem.

I agree, it's not the only problem but it is the biggest.

Coaches that don't find a QB generally get fired. That's just the way it is. Belichick and Reid didn't find their home until they found their QB.

But he did. And the QB got hurt (Purdy). Also, coaches that don't WIN get fired. Usually the QB and coach thing go hand in hand. But Kyle has managed to win in spite of not having a top 5 or 10 QB (Brock might be one, but I need to see it over a full season).

The Eagles, the NFCs best couldn't win a single game when their 1st QB went out. If they had to ride with Minshew for say 12 games, does that suddenly mean Sirianni should get the axe?

Winning buys more time like Andy in Philly, but if you keep coming up short with no QB people start losing hope. It becomes a toxic environment. Philly fans will tell you it was just time to part ways with Andy.

Purdy looked very promising but he has to show more before we say Kyle found his guy.

I said I need to see it from Brock over a full season. Also, Philly got tired of Andy for dumb moves, not for getting close yet coming up short.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Franchise408:

lmao Kyle Shanahan took this team to the NFC Championship with a 3rd string QB, and it took losing the 3rd AND 4th string QB's in the same game and having literally 0 QB's to finally beat him, and people are talking about how Shanahan is the problem.

Being "the problem" and needing to be better are 2 different things

2023 will be Kyle's 7th season as head coach of the 9ers and Is yet to find a QB who's good enough to get us over the hump.

That's the biggest problem.

I agree, it's not the only problem but it is the biggest.

Coaches that don't find a QB generally get fired. That's just the way it is. Belichick and Reid didn't find their home until they found their QB.

But he did. And the QB got hurt (Purdy). Also, coaches that don't WIN get fired. Usually the QB and coach thing go hand in hand. But Kyle has managed to win in spite of not having a top 5 or 10 QB (Brock might be one, but I need to see it over a full season).

The Eagles, the NFCs best couldn't win a single game when their 1st QB went out. If they had to ride with Minshew for say 12 games, does that suddenly mean Sirianni should get the axe?

Winning buys more time like Andy in Philly, but if you keep coming up short with no QB people start losing hope. It becomes a toxic environment. Philly fans will tell you it was just time to part ways with Andy.

Purdy looked very promising but he has to show more before we say Kyle found his guy.

I said I need to see it from Brock over a full season. Also, Philly got tired of Andy for dumb moves, not for getting close yet coming up short.

Dumb moves (all coaches make mistakes), the perceived inability to win the big one, no QB (no future). If Brock doesn't workout this will probably be Kyle at some point. If he doesn't have a QB by the time our defense starts to decline he will be in trouble.

Now that I have cycled through all of the stages of grief I must retract my call to fire Kyle. The real culprit behind the loss is jimmy g. His mere presence on the sideline brought bad luck and heartbreak. Exercise the demon and all will be well in the post season. Ok, got to go I am running late for my orientation at the psych hospital. The trauma caused by coming up short year after year is real guys,

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Now that I have cycled through all of the stages of grief I must retract my call to fire Kyle. The real culprit behind the loss is jimmy g. His mere presence on the sideline brought bad luck and heartbreak. Exercise the demon and all will be well in the post season. Ok, got to go I am running late for my orientation at the psych hospital. The trauma caused by coming up short year after year is real guys,

lol

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Franchise408:
lmao Kyle Shanahan took this team to the NFC Championship with a 3rd string QB, and it took losing the 3rd AND 4th string QB's in the same game and having literally 0 QB's to finally beat him, and people are talking about how Shanahan is the problem.

Being "the problem" and needing to be better are 2 different things

2023 will be Kyle's 7th season as head coach of the 9ers and Is yet to find a QB who's good enough to get us over the hump.

That's the biggest problem.

I agree, it's not the only problem but it is the biggest.

Coaches that don't find a QB generally get fired. That's just the way it is. Belichick and Reid didn't find their home until they found their QB.

But he did. And the QB got hurt (Purdy). Also, coaches that don't WIN get fired. Usually the QB and coach thing go hand in hand. But Kyle has managed to win in spite of not having a top 5 or 10 QB (Brock might be one, but I need to see it over a full season).

The Eagles, the NFCs best couldn't win a single game when their 1st QB went out. If they had to ride with Minshew for say 12 games, does that suddenly mean Sirianni should get the axe?

Winning buys more time like Andy in Philly, but if you keep coming up short with no QB people start losing hope. It becomes a toxic environment. Philly fans will tell you it was just time to part ways with Andy.

Purdy looked very promising but he has to show more before we say Kyle found his guy.

I said I need to see it from Brock over a full season. Also, Philly got tired of Andy for dumb moves, not for getting close yet coming up short.

Philly fires coaches for weird reasons. Didn't Doug Pederson get fired a couple years after winning the SB?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Franchise408:
lmao Kyle Shanahan took this team to the NFC Championship with a 3rd string QB, and it took losing the 3rd AND 4th string QB's in the same game and having literally 0 QB's to finally beat him, and people are talking about how Shanahan is the problem.

Being "the problem" and needing to be better are 2 different things

2023 will be Kyle's 7th season as head coach of the 9ers and Is yet to find a QB who's good enough to get us over the hump.

That's the biggest problem.

I agree, it's not the only problem but it is the biggest.

Coaches that don't find a QB generally get fired. That's just the way it is. Belichick and Reid didn't find their home until they found their QB.

But he did. And the QB got hurt (Purdy). Also, coaches that don't WIN get fired. Usually the QB and coach thing go hand in hand. But Kyle has managed to win in spite of not having a top 5 or 10 QB (Brock might be one, but I need to see it over a full season).

The Eagles, the NFCs best couldn't win a single game when their 1st QB went out. If they had to ride with Minshew for say 12 games, does that suddenly mean Sirianni should get the axe?

Winning buys more time like Andy in Philly, but if you keep coming up short with no QB people start losing hope. It becomes a toxic environment. Philly fans will tell you it was just time to part ways with Andy.

Purdy looked very promising but he has to show more before we say Kyle found his guy.

I said I need to see it from Brock over a full season. Also, Philly got tired of Andy for dumb moves, not for getting close yet coming up short.

Dumb moves (all coaches make mistakes), the perceived inability to win the big one, no QB (no future). If Brock doesn't workout this will probably be Kyle at some point. If he doesn't have a QB by the time our defense starts to decline he will be in trouble.

Don't be ridiculous. He's built this team from scratch. without a good QB we've still defy odds and become a top team in the NFL.

it just so happens that the only weakness on this team is the hardest position to fill.. QB

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Franchise408:
lmao Kyle Shanahan took this team to the NFC Championship with a 3rd string QB, and it took losing the 3rd AND 4th string QB's in the same game and having literally 0 QB's to finally beat him, and people are talking about how Shanahan is the problem.

Being "the problem" and needing to be better are 2 different things

2023 will be Kyle's 7th season as head coach of the 9ers and Is yet to find a QB who's good enough to get us over the hump.

That's the biggest problem.

I agree, it's not the only problem but it is the biggest.

Coaches that don't find a QB generally get fired. That's just the way it is. Belichick and Reid didn't find their home until they found their QB.

But he did. And the QB got hurt (Purdy). Also, coaches that don't WIN get fired. Usually the QB and coach thing go hand in hand. But Kyle has managed to win in spite of not having a top 5 or 10 QB (Brock might be one, but I need to see it over a full season).

The Eagles, the NFCs best couldn't win a single game when their 1st QB went out. If they had to ride with Minshew for say 12 games, does that suddenly mean Sirianni should get the axe?

Winning buys more time like Andy in Philly, but if you keep coming up short with no QB people start losing hope. It becomes a toxic environment. Philly fans will tell you it was just time to part ways with Andy.

Purdy looked very promising but he has to show more before we say Kyle found his guy.

I said I need to see it from Brock over a full season. Also, Philly got tired of Andy for dumb moves, not for getting close yet coming up short.

Dumb moves (all coaches make mistakes), the perceived inability to win the big one, no QB (no future). If Brock doesn't workout this will probably be Kyle at some point. If he doesn't have a QB by the time our defense starts to decline he will be in trouble.

Don't be ridiculous. He's built this team from scratch. without a good QB we've still defy odds and become a top team in the NFL.

it just so happens that the only weakness on this team is the hardest position to fill.. QB

What is so ridiculous? Hs is saying if Kyle doesn't get the offense going the defense is going to not be as good as they are now. There going to lose a bunch of Free Agent on defense. Kinlaw is not working out. They will have a hard time being the first rank defense next year.
Kyle is not getting fired. I don't care what any of us think. Jeb York is not changing a thing. What doses that mean? I can guess but, I really don't know?

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Franchise408:
lmao Kyle Shanahan took this team to the NFC Championship with a 3rd string QB, and it took losing the 3rd AND 4th string QB's in the same game and having literally 0 QB's to finally beat him, and people are talking about how Shanahan is the problem.

Being "the problem" and needing to be better are 2 different things

2023 will be Kyle's 7th season as head coach of the 9ers and Is yet to find a QB who's good enough to get us over the hump.

That's the biggest problem.

I agree, it's not the only problem but it is the biggest.

Coaches that don't find a QB generally get fired. That's just the way it is. Belichick and Reid didn't find their home until they found their QB.

But he did. And the QB got hurt (Purdy). Also, coaches that don't WIN get fired. Usually the QB and coach thing go hand in hand. But Kyle has managed to win in spite of not having a top 5 or 10 QB (Brock might be one, but I need to see it over a full season).

The Eagles, the NFCs best couldn't win a single game when their 1st QB went out. If they had to ride with Minshew for say 12 games, does that suddenly mean Sirianni should get the axe?

Winning buys more time like Andy in Philly, but if you keep coming up short with no QB people start losing hope. It becomes a toxic environment. Philly fans will tell you it was just time to part ways with Andy.

Purdy looked very promising but he has to show more before we say Kyle found his guy.

I said I need to see it from Brock over a full season. Also, Philly got tired of Andy for dumb moves, not for getting close yet coming up short.

Dumb moves (all coaches make mistakes), the perceived inability to win the big one, no QB (no future). If Brock doesn't workout this will probably be Kyle at some point. If he doesn't have a QB by the time our defense starts to decline he will be in trouble.

Don't be ridiculous. He's built this team from scratch. without a good QB we've still defy odds and become a top team in the NFL.

it just so happens that the only weakness on this team is the hardest position to fill.. QB

What is so ridiculous? Hs is saying if Kyle doesn't get the offense going the defense is going to not be as good as they are now. There going to lose a bunch of Free Agent on defense. Kinlaw is not working out. They will have a hard time being the first rank defense next year.
Kyle is not getting fired. I don't care what any of us think. Jeb York is not changing a thing. What doses that mean? I can guess but, I really don't know?

i know what he is saying and it's ridiculous. 6 years now and the Defense is still the side carrying this team. Kinlaw is not a key piece so it's non-issue.

We don't know what we will be ranked and can't say we will or won't, but what is for sure is that if you have all sides of the game working, you don't need to be number 1 in defense

and the most important part, they know how to build a team.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
...so what brendel is saying is that the blocking happened as designed and its normally ok because it relies on the wide guy pausing for the fake.

Anyway, 3 guys on our line are kinda small. McG is a little light for 6'8 so this happens occasionally:

This is what they should show him when he wants a big contract.

thank god kyle is our head coach and thank god denver passed on him in '17

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i know what he is saying and it's ridiculous. 6 years now and the Defense is still the side carrying this team. Kinlaw is not a key piece so it's non-issue.

We don't know what we will be ranked and can't say we will or won't, but what is for sure is that if you have all sides of the game working, you don't need to be number 1 in defense

and the most important part, they know how to build a team.

I totally agree they have built a great team. I like what they have done. After 6 year I think they need to make some kind of change. No I do not or I'm not sure if Kyle is what need to be changed. I think they should promote Lynch and bring in someone from outside to be the new GM. Giving the GM control of the team. I think they need to take some of the power away from Kyle . If Kyle can not handle that, then he would basically be firing himself. I know it is a risk, but I do not see them making any changes and it will most likely be more injury's with a playoff lose again and again. It's to late for this year and Jeb is going to do nothing. I hope Kyle prove me wrong and wins it all next year.