49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i know what he is saying and it's ridiculous. 6 years now and the Defense is still the side carrying this team. Kinlaw is not a key piece so it's non-issue.

We don't know what we will be ranked and can't say we will or won't, but what is for sure is that if you have all sides of the game working, you don't need to be number 1 in defense

and the most important part, they know how to build a team.

I totally agree they have built a great team. I like what they have done. After 6 year I think they need to make some kind of change. No I do not or I'm not sure if Kyle is what need to be changed. I think they should promote Lynch and bring in someone from outside to be the new GM. Giving the GM control of the team. I think they need to take some of the power away from Kyle . If Kyle can not handle that, then he would basically be firing himself. I know it is a risk, but I do not see them making any changes and it will most likely be more injury's with a playoff lose again and again. It's to late for this year and Jeb is going to do nothing. I hope Kyle prove me wrong and wins it all next year.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i know what he is saying and it's ridiculous. 6 years now and the Defense is still the side carrying this team. Kinlaw is not a key piece so it's non-issue.

We don't know what we will be ranked and can't say we will or won't, but what is for sure is that if you have all sides of the game working, you don't need to be number 1 in defense

and the most important part, they know how to build a team.

I totally agree they have built a great team. I like what they have done. After 6 year I think they need to make some kind of change. No I do not or I'm not sure if Kyle is what need to be changed. I think they should promote Lynch and bring in someone from outside to be the new GM. Giving the GM control of the team. I think they need to take some of the power away from Kyle . If Kyle can not handle that, then he would basically be firing himself. I know it is a risk, but I do not see them making any changes and it will most likely be more injury's with a playoff lose again and again. It's to late for this year and Jeb is going to do nothing. I hope Kyle prove me wrong and wins it all next year.

The Team is solid right now and even if we upgrade a few positions.. how will those FO changes overcome our weakness at QB ?

You just saw how a competent QB transformed this team mid-season. we can upgrade all we want but if we don't have the right guy steering the ship.. it will take a miracle to win a SB. Unfortunately, we just landed back to square 1 at QB

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i know what he is saying and it's ridiculous. 6 years now and the Defense is still the side carrying this team. Kinlaw is not a key piece so it's non-issue.

We don't know what we will be ranked and can't say we will or won't, but what is for sure is that if you have all sides of the game working, you don't need to be number 1 in defense

and the most important part, they know how to build a team.

I totally agree they have built a great team. I like what they have done. After 6 year I think they need to make some kind of change. No I do not or I'm not sure if Kyle is what need to be changed. I think they should promote Lynch and bring in someone from outside to be the new GM. Giving the GM control of the team. I think they need to take some of the power away from Kyle . If Kyle can not handle that, then he would basically be firing himself. I know it is a risk, but I do not see them making any changes and it will most likely be more injury's with a playoff lose again and again. It's to late for this year and Jeb is going to do nothing. I hope Kyle prove me wrong and wins it all next year.

The Team is solid right now and even if we upgrade a few positions.. how will those FO changes overcome our weakness at QB ?

You just saw how a competent QB transformed this team mid-season. we can upgrade all we want but if we don't have the right guy steering the ship.. it will take a miracle to win a SB. Unfortunately, we just landed back to square 1 at QB

We are not at square 1. We now have a very competitive environment at the QB position which should get the best out of both and they are on the cheap. Seems like we are perfectly set up for success.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i know what he is saying and it's ridiculous. 6 years now and the Defense is still the side carrying this team. Kinlaw is not a key piece so it's non-issue.

We don't know what we will be ranked and can't say we will or won't, but what is for sure is that if you have all sides of the game working, you don't need to be number 1 in defense

and the most important part, they know how to build a team.

I totally agree they have built a great team. I like what they have done. After 6 year I think they need to make some kind of change. No I do not or I'm not sure if Kyle is what need to be changed. I think they should promote Lynch and bring in someone from outside to be the new GM. Giving the GM control of the team. I think they need to take some of the power away from Kyle . If Kyle can not handle that, then he would basically be firing himself. I know it is a risk, but I do not see them making any changes and it will most likely be more injury's with a playoff lose again and again. It's to late for this year and Jeb is going to do nothing. I hope Kyle prove me wrong and wins it all next year.

The Team is solid right now and even if we upgrade a few positions.. how will those FO changes overcome our weakness at QB ?

You just saw how a competent QB transformed this team mid-season. we can upgrade all we want but if we don't have the right guy steering the ship.. it will take a miracle to win a SB. Unfortunately, we just landed back to square 1 at QB

We are not at square 1. We now have a very competitive environment at the QB position which should get the best out of both and they are on the cheap. Seems like we are perfectly set up for success.

Originally posted by socal1632:
We definitely are. 6 years in and we don't know the starter next. Purdy was looking good but the NFL had him figured out by the Cowboys game. Kid doesn't step up/ bails to his left religiously. He needs the Tommy John surgery. kyle will be stuck with a qb that the players don't want. He caused this. I want a football coach like Harbaugh back. Kyle is too arrogant and not good enough.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i know what he is saying and it's ridiculous. 6 years now and the Defense is still the side carrying this team. Kinlaw is not a key piece so it's non-issue.

We don't know what we will be ranked and can't say we will or won't, but what is for sure is that if you have all sides of the game working, you don't need to be number 1 in defense

and the most important part, they know how to build a team.

I totally agree they have built a great team. I like what they have done. After 6 year I think they need to make some kind of change. No I do not or I'm not sure if Kyle is what need to be changed. I think they should promote Lynch and bring in someone from outside to be the new GM. Giving the GM control of the team. I think they need to take some of the power away from Kyle . If Kyle can not handle that, then he would basically be firing himself. I know it is a risk, but I do not see them making any changes and it will most likely be more injury's with a playoff lose again and again. It's to late for this year and Jeb is going to do nothing. I hope Kyle prove me wrong and wins it all next year.

The Team is solid right now and even if we upgrade a few positions.. how will those FO changes overcome our weakness at QB ?

You just saw how a competent QB transformed this team mid-season. we can upgrade all we want but if we don't have the right guy steering the ship.. it will take a miracle to win a SB. Unfortunately, we just landed back to square 1 at QB

We are not at square 1. We now have a very competitive environment at the QB position which should get the best out of both and they are on the cheap. Seems like we are perfectly set up for success.

competitive environment doesn't mean our QB issues have been resolved. Our 2023 starter would just be the best guy on the roster that won the battle. If Purdy had not been injured, i would feel better going into 2023. But reality is we can't expect him to just comeback like nothing happened. most things don't.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Franchise408:
lmao Kyle Shanahan took this team to the NFC Championship with a 3rd string QB, and it took losing the 3rd AND 4th string QB's in the same game and having literally 0 QB's to finally beat him, and people are talking about how Shanahan is the problem.

Being "the problem" and needing to be better are 2 different things

2023 will be Kyle's 7th season as head coach of the 9ers and Is yet to find a QB who's good enough to get us over the hump.

That's the biggest problem.

I agree, it's not the only problem but it is the biggest.

Coaches that don't find a QB generally get fired. That's just the way it is. Belichick and Reid didn't find their home until they found their QB.

But he did. And the QB got hurt (Purdy). Also, coaches that don't WIN get fired. Usually the QB and coach thing go hand in hand. But Kyle has managed to win in spite of not having a top 5 or 10 QB (Brock might be one, but I need to see it over a full season).

The Eagles, the NFCs best couldn't win a single game when their 1st QB went out. If they had to ride with Minshew for say 12 games, does that suddenly mean Sirianni should get the axe?

Winning buys more time like Andy in Philly, but if you keep coming up short with no QB people start losing hope. It becomes a toxic environment. Philly fans will tell you it was just time to part ways with Andy.

Purdy looked very promising but he has to show more before we say Kyle found his guy.

I said I need to see it from Brock over a full season. Also, Philly got tired of Andy for dumb moves, not for getting close yet coming up short.

Dumb moves (all coaches make mistakes), the perceived inability to win the big one, no QB (no future). If Brock doesn't workout this will probably be Kyle at some point. If he doesn't have a QB by the time our defense starts to decline he will be in trouble.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Franchise408:
lmao Kyle Shanahan took this team to the NFC Championship with a 3rd string QB, and it took losing the 3rd AND 4th string QB's in the same game and having literally 0 QB's to finally beat him, and people are talking about how Shanahan is the problem.

Being "the problem" and needing to be better are 2 different things

2023 will be Kyle's 7th season as head coach of the 9ers and Is yet to find a QB who's good enough to get us over the hump.

That's the biggest problem.

I agree, it's not the only problem but it is the biggest.

Coaches that don't find a QB generally get fired. That's just the way it is. Belichick and Reid didn't find their home until they found their QB.

But he did. And the QB got hurt (Purdy). Also, coaches that don't WIN get fired. Usually the QB and coach thing go hand in hand. But Kyle has managed to win in spite of not having a top 5 or 10 QB (Brock might be one, but I need to see it over a full season).

The Eagles, the NFCs best couldn't win a single game when their 1st QB went out. If they had to ride with Minshew for say 12 games, does that suddenly mean Sirianni should get the axe?

Winning buys more time like Andy in Philly, but if you keep coming up short with no QB people start losing hope. It becomes a toxic environment. Philly fans will tell you it was just time to part ways with Andy.

Purdy looked very promising but he has to show more before we say Kyle found his guy.

I said I need to see it from Brock over a full season. Also, Philly got tired of Andy for dumb moves, not for getting close yet coming up short.

Dumb moves (all coaches make mistakes), the perceived inability to win the big one, no QB (no future). If Brock doesn't workout this will probably be Kyle at some point. If he doesn't have a QB by the time our defense starts to decline he will be in trouble.

Don't be ridiculous. He's built this team from scratch. without a good QB we've still defy odds and become a top team in the NFL.

it just so happens that the only weakness on this team is the hardest position to fill.. QB

What is so ridiculous? Hs is saying if Kyle doesn't get the offense going the defense is going to not be as good as they are now. There going to lose a bunch of Free Agent on defense. Kinlaw is not working out. They will have a hard time being the first rank defense next year.
Kyle is not getting fired. I don't care what any of us think. Jeb York is not changing a thing. What doses that mean? I can guess but, I really don't know?

i know what he is saying and it's ridiculous. 6 years now and the Defense is still the side carrying this team. Kinlaw is not a key piece so it's non-issue.

We don't know what we will be ranked and can't say we will or won't, but what is for sure is that if you have all sides of the game working, you don't need to be number 1 in defense

and the most important part, they know how to build a team.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
He better win COTY

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i know what he is saying and it's ridiculous. 6 years now and the Defense is still the side carrying this team. Kinlaw is not a key piece so it's non-issue.

We don't know what we will be ranked and can't say we will or won't, but what is for sure is that if you have all sides of the game working, you don't need to be number 1 in defense

and the most important part, they know how to build a team.

I totally agree they have built a great team. I like what they have done. After 6 year I think they need to make some kind of change. No I do not or I'm not sure if Kyle is what need to be changed. I think they should promote Lynch and bring in someone from outside to be the new GM. Giving the GM control of the team. I think they need to take some of the power away from Kyle . If Kyle can not handle that, then he would basically be firing himself. I know it is a risk, but I do not see them making any changes and it will most likely be more injury's with a playoff lose again and again. It's to late for this year and Jeb is going to do nothing. I hope Kyle prove me wrong and wins it all next year.

The Team is solid right now and even if we upgrade a few positions.. how will those FO changes overcome our weakness at QB ?

You just saw how a competent QB transformed this team mid-season. we can upgrade all we want but if we don't have the right guy steering the ship.. it will take a miracle to win a SB. Unfortunately, we just landed back to square 1 at QB

We are not at square 1. We now have a very competitive environment at the QB position which should get the best out of both and they are on the cheap. Seems like we are perfectly set up for success.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
He better win COTY

He won't now. It's Sirianni's since they beat us despite the fact that Kyle won 12 straight and made it to the NFCCG with 3 different QBs after a 3-4 start to the year.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Franchise408:
lmao Kyle Shanahan took this team to the NFC Championship with a 3rd string QB, and it took losing the 3rd AND 4th string QB's in the same game and having literally 0 QB's to finally beat him, and people are talking about how Shanahan is the problem.

Being "the problem" and needing to be better are 2 different things

2023 will be Kyle's 7th season as head coach of the 9ers and Is yet to find a QB who's good enough to get us over the hump.

That's the biggest problem.

I agree, it's not the only problem but it is the biggest.

Coaches that don't find a QB generally get fired. That's just the way it is. Belichick and Reid didn't find their home until they found their QB.

But he did. And the QB got hurt (Purdy). Also, coaches that don't WIN get fired. Usually the QB and coach thing go hand in hand. But Kyle has managed to win in spite of not having a top 5 or 10 QB (Brock might be one, but I need to see it over a full season).

The Eagles, the NFCs best couldn't win a single game when their 1st QB went out. If they had to ride with Minshew for say 12 games, does that suddenly mean Sirianni should get the axe?

Winning buys more time like Andy in Philly, but if you keep coming up short with no QB people start losing hope. It becomes a toxic environment. Philly fans will tell you it was just time to part ways with Andy.

Purdy looked very promising but he has to show more before we say Kyle found his guy.

I said I need to see it from Brock over a full season. Also, Philly got tired of Andy for dumb moves, not for getting close yet coming up short.

Dumb moves (all coaches make mistakes), the perceived inability to win the big one, no QB (no future). If Brock doesn't workout this will probably be Kyle at some point. If he doesn't have a QB by the time our defense starts to decline he will be in trouble.

As long as we keep drafting reasonably well, we'll be fine.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Franchise408:
lmao Kyle Shanahan took this team to the NFC Championship with a 3rd string QB, and it took losing the 3rd AND 4th string QB's in the same game and having literally 0 QB's to finally beat him, and people are talking about how Shanahan is the problem.

Being "the problem" and needing to be better are 2 different things

2023 will be Kyle's 7th season as head coach of the 9ers and Is yet to find a QB who's good enough to get us over the hump.

That's the biggest problem.

I agree, it's not the only problem but it is the biggest.

Coaches that don't find a QB generally get fired. That's just the way it is. Belichick and Reid didn't find their home until they found their QB.

But he did. And the QB got hurt (Purdy). Also, coaches that don't WIN get fired. Usually the QB and coach thing go hand in hand. But Kyle has managed to win in spite of not having a top 5 or 10 QB (Brock might be one, but I need to see it over a full season).

The Eagles, the NFCs best couldn't win a single game when their 1st QB went out. If they had to ride with Minshew for say 12 games, does that suddenly mean Sirianni should get the axe?

Winning buys more time like Andy in Philly, but if you keep coming up short with no QB people start losing hope. It becomes a toxic environment. Philly fans will tell you it was just time to part ways with Andy.

Purdy looked very promising but he has to show more before we say Kyle found his guy.

I said I need to see it from Brock over a full season. Also, Philly got tired of Andy for dumb moves, not for getting close yet coming up short.

Dumb moves (all coaches make mistakes), the perceived inability to win the big one, no QB (no future). If Brock doesn't workout this will probably be Kyle at some point. If he doesn't have a QB by the time our defense starts to decline he will be in trouble.

Don't be ridiculous. He's built this team from scratch. without a good QB we've still defy odds and become a top team in the NFL.

it just so happens that the only weakness on this team is the hardest position to fill.. QB

What is so ridiculous? Hs is saying if Kyle doesn't get the offense going the defense is going to not be as good as they are now. There going to lose a bunch of Free Agent on defense. Kinlaw is not working out. They will have a hard time being the first rank defense next year.
Kyle is not getting fired. I don't care what any of us think. Jeb York is not changing a thing. What doses that mean? I can guess but, I really don't know?

i know what he is saying and it's ridiculous. 6 years now and the Defense is still the side carrying this team. Kinlaw is not a key piece so it's non-issue.

We don't know what we will be ranked and can't say we will or won't, but what is for sure is that if you have all sides of the game working, you don't need to be number 1 in defense

and the most important part, they know how to build a team.

The offense was scoring 30 a game down they stretch. They scored 41 against Seattle. Totally false that the defense is still carrying the team.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Franchise408:
lmao Kyle Shanahan took this team to the NFC Championship with a 3rd string QB, and it took losing the 3rd AND 4th string QB's in the same game and having literally 0 QB's to finally beat him, and people are talking about how Shanahan is the problem.

Being "the problem" and needing to be better are 2 different things

2023 will be Kyle's 7th season as head coach of the 9ers and Is yet to find a QB who's good enough to get us over the hump.

That's the biggest problem.

I agree, it's not the only problem but it is the biggest.

Coaches that don't find a QB generally get fired. That's just the way it is. Belichick and Reid didn't find their home until they found their QB.

But he did. And the QB got hurt (Purdy). Also, coaches that don't WIN get fired. Usually the QB and coach thing go hand in hand. But Kyle has managed to win in spite of not having a top 5 or 10 QB (Brock might be one, but I need to see it over a full season).

The Eagles, the NFCs best couldn't win a single game when their 1st QB went out. If they had to ride with Minshew for say 12 games, does that suddenly mean Sirianni should get the axe?

Winning buys more time like Andy in Philly, but if you keep coming up short with no QB people start losing hope. It becomes a toxic environment. Philly fans will tell you it was just time to part ways with Andy.

Purdy looked very promising but he has to show more before we say Kyle found his guy.

I said I need to see it from Brock over a full season. Also, Philly got tired of Andy for dumb moves, not for getting close yet coming up short.

Dumb moves (all coaches make mistakes), the perceived inability to win the big one, no QB (no future). If Brock doesn't workout this will probably be Kyle at some point. If he doesn't have a QB by the time our defense starts to decline he will be in trouble.

As long as we keep drafting reasonably well, we'll be fine.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Franchise408:
lmao Kyle Shanahan took this team to the NFC Championship with a 3rd string QB, and it took losing the 3rd AND 4th string QB's in the same game and having literally 0 QB's to finally beat him, and people are talking about how Shanahan is the problem.

Being "the problem" and needing to be better are 2 different things

2023 will be Kyle's 7th season as head coach of the 9ers and Is yet to find a QB who's good enough to get us over the hump.

That's the biggest problem.

I agree, it's not the only problem but it is the biggest.

Coaches that don't find a QB generally get fired. That's just the way it is. Belichick and Reid didn't find their home until they found their QB.

But he did. And the QB got hurt (Purdy). Also, coaches that don't WIN get fired. Usually the QB and coach thing go hand in hand. But Kyle has managed to win in spite of not having a top 5 or 10 QB (Brock might be one, but I need to see it over a full season).

The Eagles, the NFCs best couldn't win a single game when their 1st QB went out. If they had to ride with Minshew for say 12 games, does that suddenly mean Sirianni should get the axe?

Winning buys more time like Andy in Philly, but if you keep coming up short with no QB people start losing hope. It becomes a toxic environment. Philly fans will tell you it was just time to part ways with Andy.

Purdy looked very promising but he has to show more before we say Kyle found his guy.

I said I need to see it from Brock over a full season. Also, Philly got tired of Andy for dumb moves, not for getting close yet coming up short.

Dumb moves (all coaches make mistakes), the perceived inability to win the big one, no QB (no future). If Brock doesn't workout this will probably be Kyle at some point. If he doesn't have a QB by the time our defense starts to decline he will be in trouble.

Don't be ridiculous. He's built this team from scratch. without a good QB we've still defy odds and become a top team in the NFL.

it just so happens that the only weakness on this team is the hardest position to fill.. QB

What is so ridiculous? Hs is saying if Kyle doesn't get the offense going the defense is going to not be as good as they are now. There going to lose a bunch of Free Agent on defense. Kinlaw is not working out. They will have a hard time being the first rank defense next year.
Kyle is not getting fired. I don't care what any of us think. Jeb York is not changing a thing. What doses that mean? I can guess but, I really don't know?

i know what he is saying and it's ridiculous. 6 years now and the Defense is still the side carrying this team. Kinlaw is not a key piece so it's non-issue.

We don't know what we will be ranked and can't say we will or won't, but what is for sure is that if you have all sides of the game working, you don't need to be number 1 in defense

and the most important part, they know how to build a team.

The offense was scoring 30 a game down they stretch. They scored 41 against Seattle. Totally false that the defense is still carrying the team.

You must have been under a rock the first half of the season and seasons prior