49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Did Kyle run over your dog or something?

b******t if he wins, you won't say a damn word. Crickets like it was for 12 weeks in here.

yes..he hit my dog fido

Then it all makes sense.

still doesn't make sense

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Kyle makes these mistakes in the big games though and that is the problem. You don't have to agree with any of this, but he is questioned for his decisions in the Falcons SB. He is questioned for his clock management in our last drive before the half in our SB (same thing in Dal game this year). Then he has even more blunders in the eagles game, it's just starting to pile up. He does weird s**t in big games.

Another one I don't really blame him as much for was punting in the rams game last year. I felt like it was going to bite us in the ass and it did. That's more of a hindsight 20/20 deal, but still using hindsight I was right and Kyle was wrong again

Oh save me the falcons complaining. Quinn is the HC, he as the final say on play calling. He can say Kyle just run the ball…same s**t with HIS defense blowing a massive league and giving up over 500 yards of offense. I've never seen a HC get such a pass in my life.

kyle said he didn't want to give the ball back before half time. Clearly didn't have faith in our QB. The eagles game was over on the 6th drive of our first series. Trying to find some s**t take about Kyle after that is about as silly as it gets.

damn near all of it is hindsight 20/20. If it worked out then you wouldn't be complaining regardless of what he did or didn't do.

Originally posted by dmax:
you are wrong...lol

bahahaha yup the league hasn't been stealing Kyle's coaches for years.

it's always been confirmation bias with you in this thread…damn near everyone will agree. Plain as day.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
the other two have won a SB.

So he is like damn near every other coach right? Everything you mentioned still falls to the HC btw.... Is he so revered by you that posters cannot question him at all on these forums? You act like we commit heresy if we question his coaching.

I never said anyone can't question him. I have. I'm not dumb enough to think we need to replace him or try to go out of my way to find any problem just because I feel like I need to find blame all the time.

If anything Kyle is one of the main reasons we even have a chance to win SBs. Some of ya'll live in some fantasy world thinking the league is flush with really good HCs. Do you see who's coaching in the league?

for the amount of dick sucking Reid gets in here, dude has ONE SB in 23 yrs as a HC. AND it took him having a generational QB make a ridiculous play on 3 & 15 that only someone like PM could make. That play and zero to do with coaching (and it also took Jimmy blowing a perfectly called play for a long TD).

IMO it's amateur hour to say coaching is the reason we're not winning or he can't get any recognition for being a damn good coach because he "hasn't won a SB". I agree a flag should have been thrown, doesn't justify the crap takes by a few on what kyle is or isn't.

I never said anything you just said? All I said was he needs to learn how to win it all. Then all you guys came out with pitchforks....

kyle makes too many mistakes in big games....arrogant too
he makes to many brain dead decisions

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
the other two have won a SB.

So he is like damn near every other coach right? Everything you mentioned still falls to the HC btw.... Is he so revered by you that posters cannot question him at all on these forums? You act like we commit heresy if we question his coaching.

I never said anyone can't question him. I have. I'm not dumb enough to think we need to replace him or try to go out of my way to find any problem just because I feel like I need to find blame all the time.

If anything Kyle is one of the main reasons we even have a chance to win SBs. Some of ya'll live in some fantasy world thinking the league is flush with really good HCs. Do you see who's coaching in the league?

for the amount of dick sucking Reid gets in here, dude has ONE SB in 23 yrs as a HC. AND it took him having a generational QB make a ridiculous play on 3 & 15 that only someone like PM could make. That play and zero to do with coaching (and it also took Jimmy blowing a perfectly called play for a long TD).

IMO it's amateur hour to say coaching is the reason we're not winning or he can't get any recognition for being a damn good coach because he "hasn't won a SB". I agree a flag should have been thrown, doesn't justify the crap takes by a few on what kyle is or isn't.

I never said anything you just said? All I said was he needs to learn how to win it all. Then all you guys came out with pitchforks....

you don't see any issue with your statement ?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
bahahaha yup the league hasn't been stealing Kyle's coaches for years.

it's always been confirmation bias with you in this thread…damn near everyone will agree. Plain as day.

again ..i dgaf about what other teams and other coaches do

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Oh save me the falcons complaining. Quinn is the HC, he as the final say on play calling. He can say Kyle just run the ball…same s**t with HIS defense blowing a massive league and giving up over 500 yards of offense. I've never seen a HC get such a pass in my life.

kyle said he didn't want to give the ball back before half time. Clearly didn't have faith in our QB. The eagles game was over on the 6th drive of our first series. Trying to find some s**t take about Kyle after that is about as silly as it gets.

damn near all of it is hindsight 20/20. If it worked out then you wouldn't be complaining regardless of what he did or didn't do.

Like I said you don't have to agree, but he has been questioned for all of those decisions.

He doesn't get let off the hook on the Eagles game. He coached like s**t regardless of who the QB was. If Brock came back in the second half, he's looking at a 21-7 game because of Kyle. Better coaching from Kyle would have made it a 14-10 game.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
the other two have won a SB.

So he is like damn near every other coach right? Everything you mentioned still falls to the HC btw.... Is he so revered by you that posters cannot question him at all on these forums? You act like we commit heresy if we question his coaching.

I never said anyone can't question him. I have. I'm not dumb enough to think we need to replace him or try to go out of my way to find any problem just because I feel like I need to find blame all the time.

If anything Kyle is one of the main reasons we even have a chance to win SBs. Some of ya'll live in some fantasy world thinking the league is flush with really good HCs. Do you see who's coaching in the league?

for the amount of dick sucking Reid gets in here, dude has ONE SB in 23 yrs as a HC. AND it took him having a generational QB make a ridiculous play on 3 & 15 that only someone like PM could make. That play and zero to do with coaching (and it also took Jimmy blowing a perfectly called play for a long TD).

IMO it's amateur hour to say coaching is the reason we're not winning or he can't get any recognition for being a damn good coach because he "hasn't won a SB". I agree a flag should have been thrown, doesn't justify the crap takes by a few on what kyle is or isn't.

I never said anything you just said? All I said was he needs to learn how to win it all. Then all you guys came out with pitchforks....

you don't see any issue with your statement ?

Nope. What is wrong with it? you guys are listing off all his accolades and framing comparisons to promote him.... All I said was he needs to learn to win it all... Did I say he is a bad coach? Or should be gone? Or he sucks? I never said anything like that. I am record that I like him, but he frustrates me at times. Is that not reasonable?

I admit I baited you guys a bit, but damn did y'all bite!

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Cool interview with CMC talking about Shanny. The way he describes Shanahan is similar how I've heard people describe Belichick: "He understands all 22 positions and everyone's job on every single play. He can teach you about the defense just as well as he can the offense."

A far cry from "he's learning how to coach."

He is a great offensive coordinator. Still got some work to do as a HC

Bill Belichick still has some work to do as well. Doesn't really tell me anything.

There's always work to do at both with so many moving variables. That being said,... suggesting he's learning how to coach is idiotic.

He needs to learn how to win it all.

Only 12% of the current HC's have won a SB as a HC.

OK so Kyle is average?

No. Unless you think 3 NFCC's and a SB appearance in the last 4 seasons is average? The only 2 active HC's that you could argue have accomplished more in that same time span would be Reid and McVay. So imo, Kyle is in the 90 percentile of active HC's in the league.

the other two have won a SB.

So Kyle is average because 2 out of the other 31 HC's have accomplished more over the past 4 seasons? Makes a lot of sense when you don't think about it.

Originally posted by dmax:
kyle makes too many mistakes in big games....arrogant too
he makes to many brain dead decisions

I cant really say you are wrong, but I will agree with the other side saying he's still better than most other coaches. However, you ARENT ARGUING THAT.....you are saying Kyle still has a lot of improving to do.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Cool interview with CMC talking about Shanny. The way he describes Shanahan is similar how I've heard people describe Belichick: "He understands all 22 positions and everyone's job on every single play. He can teach you about the defense just as well as he can the offense."

A far cry from "he's learning how to coach."

He is a great offensive coordinator. Still got some work to do as a HC

Bill Belichick still has some work to do as well. Doesn't really tell me anything.

There's always work to do at both with so many moving variables. That being said,... suggesting he's learning how to coach is idiotic.

He needs to learn how to win it all.

Only 12% of the current HC's have won a SB as a HC.

OK so Kyle is average?

No. Unless you think 3 NFCC's and a SB appearance in the last 4 seasons is average? The only 2 active HC's that you could argue have accomplished more in that same time span would be Reid and McVay. So imo, Kyle is in the 90 percentile of active HC's in the league.

the other two have won a SB.

So Kyle is average because 2 out of the other 31 HC's have accomplished more over the past 4 seasons? Makes a lot of sense when you don't think about it.

No, you compared him to them using one set of data. I also showed you data they have that he doesn't. I know Kyle is a great coach, but he still has work to do and still hasn't won it all...

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
bahahaha yup the league hasn't been stealing Kyle's coaches for years.

it's always been confirmation bias with you in this thread…damn near everyone will agree. Plain as day.

again ..i dgaf about what other teams and other coaches do

Lol oh okay. Continue with the weak confirmation bias takes that 90% of the people in here don't take seriously.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
the other two have won a SB.

So he is like damn near every other coach right? Everything you mentioned still falls to the HC btw.... Is he so revered by you that posters cannot question him at all on these forums? You act like we commit heresy if we question his coaching.

I never said anyone can't question him. I have. I'm not dumb enough to think we need to replace him or try to go out of my way to find any problem just because I feel like I need to find blame all the time.

If anything Kyle is one of the main reasons we even have a chance to win SBs. Some of ya'll live in some fantasy world thinking the league is flush with really good HCs. Do you see who's coaching in the league?

for the amount of dick sucking Reid gets in here, dude has ONE SB in 23 yrs as a HC. AND it took him having a generational QB make a ridiculous play on 3 & 15 that only someone like PM could make. That play and zero to do with coaching (and it also took Jimmy blowing a perfectly called play for a long TD).

IMO it's amateur hour to say coaching is the reason we're not winning or he can't get any recognition for being a damn good coach because he "hasn't won a SB". I agree a flag should have been thrown, doesn't justify the crap takes by a few on what kyle is or isn't.

I never said anything you just said? All I said was he needs to learn how to win it all. Then all you guys came out with pitchforks....

you don't see any issue with your statement ?

Nope. What is wrong with it? you guys are listing off all his accolades and framing comparisons to promote him.... All I said was he needs to learn to win it all... Did I say he is a bad coach? Or should be gone? Or he sucks? I never said anything like that. I am record that I like him, but he frustrates me at times. Is that not reasonable?

I admit I baited you guys a bit, but damn did y'all bite!

How can you not see any issues with it. Coaches who have won it all doesn't mean they can do it again or make it any easier

There is no cheat code or some recipe you can use that will guarantee a SB win

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
the other two have won a SB.

So he is like damn near every other coach right? Everything you mentioned still falls to the HC btw.... Is he so revered by you that posters cannot question him at all on these forums? You act like we commit heresy if we question his coaching.

I never said anyone can't question him. I have. I'm not dumb enough to think we need to replace him or try to go out of my way to find any problem just because I feel like I need to find blame all the time.

If anything Kyle is one of the main reasons we even have a chance to win SBs. Some of ya'll live in some fantasy world thinking the league is flush with really good HCs. Do you see who's coaching in the league?

for the amount of dick sucking Reid gets in here, dude has ONE SB in 23 yrs as a HC. AND it took him having a generational QB make a ridiculous play on 3 & 15 that only someone like PM could make. That play and zero to do with coaching (and it also took Jimmy blowing a perfectly called play for a long TD).

IMO it's amateur hour to say coaching is the reason we're not winning or he can't get any recognition for being a damn good coach because he "hasn't won a SB". I agree a flag should have been thrown, doesn't justify the crap takes by a few on what kyle is or isn't.

I never said anything you just said? All I said was he needs to learn how to win it all. Then all you guys came out with pitchforks....

you don't see any issue with your statement ?

Nope. What is wrong with it? you guys are listing off all his accolades and framing comparisons to promote him.... All I said was he needs to learn to win it all... Did I say he is a bad coach? Or should be gone? Or he sucks? I never said anything like that. I am record that I like him, but he frustrates me at times. Is that not reasonable?

I admit I baited you guys a bit, but damn did y'all bite!

Saying Kyle needs to LEARN to win a SB is one of the dumbest takes I have ever read on here. Saying Kyle needs to LEARN how to win a SB is like saying Kyle needs to LEARN how to win a football game. After all, the SB is just another football game. Kyle has a winning record as a HC so he knows how to win football games.