49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
If Reid hires the guy, then yes give Reid the credit for putting someone bright minded on the staff who knows football and talent eval. Great coaches hire good ppl. You may have seen it here with the NFL raiding our ranks every year, is that not on KS for hiring good folks.. course it is.

You give credit to the person who did the work. You give credit to the guy that actually said I'M gonna draft him (which was the GM).

the only reason you're even going this route is based on your own opinions with Kyle.

All the coaches are getting hired away because Jimmy Garoppolo single handedly outdueled Dak Prescott, Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford in a single playoffs. Kyle has nothing to do with any of it.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
If I keep going I'll prove the Egyptians didn't make the pyramids they just found em

Hahaha Brent Veach went full on Draft Day if you read how it went down and some are gonna give all the credit to Reid because of some Bs narrative

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
All the coaches are getting hired away because Jimmy Garoppolo single handedly outdueled Dak Prescott, Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford in a single playoffs. Kyle has nothing to do with any of it.

Fact check true.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by thl408:
He made it to the SB and lost to the SB winner. He lost to the Rams and they were the SB winner. He lost to PHI because the 49er offense s**t the bed. Maybe the 49ers weren't good enough to beat the SB champs.

If Reid loses this SB? Does he go back to "not learning how to win" because he would have lost multiple Super Bowls with the best player in the league? Or is just a ton of variables that goes into all of it?

Let's stop the Reid / KS comp. KS is a lot more like McVay imo. No reason to say KS is Andy Jr.. he isn't. He's KS.

McVay is like Kyle cause he learned from Kyle who learned from his dad who learned from George Seifert who learned from Bill Walsh who also taught Mike Holmgren who taught Andy Reid.

The math checks out.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
If Reid hires the guy, then yes give Reid the credit for putting someone bright minded on the staff who knows football and talent eval. Great coaches hire good ppl. You may have seen it here with the NFL raiding our ranks every year, is that not on KS for hiring good folks.. course it is.

You give credit to the person who did the work. You give credit to the guy that actually said I'M gonna draft him (which was the GM).

the only reason you're even going this route is based on your own opinions with Kyle.

I see both sides of it in that sure the guy who did work deserves credit for work done. Also I realize that if Reid doesn't hire the man, he's in another city doing the work there, and they never land the player in KC.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Didn't we hear recently it was Griese who pushed hard for Purdy?

No no no it's the HC regardless of anything…unless it's here then ifs a bad decision. Then it's all kyle.

Why are you putting words in my mouth? Its ok bro we all know you arent perfect.

Originally posted by thl408:

He made it to the SB and lost to the SB winner. He lost to the Rams and they were the SB winner. He lost to PHI because the 49er offense s**t the bed. Maybe the 49ers weren't good enough to beat the SB champs.

He absolutely dominates the Rams…..until it counts

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
You completely missed my point. I didn't SAY it WAS the schemes fault. I am saying its fair to question if it IS. I even asked in the past if the data supports that...... And here you come in totally missing that and just get all condescending.

You didnt?

I am not x and o master, but that is definitely scheme. So if his scheme puts the QB in the line of fire more often than logically to me that explains why bad luck comes at us so often.

I did LOL you got me, but youre saying scheme doesn't matter when great players don't adhere to the scheme? So I will still say I am only half wrong, and therefore half right! Again I did ask after the game if we have data show QB hit rates, pressures etc compared to other teams, because I am not that thick headed. I never heard a response. I'm more just thinking out loud on here with you guys, its not scripture.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I did LOL you got me, but youre saying scheme doesn't matter when great players don't adhere to the scheme? So I will still say I am only half wrong, and therefore half right! Again I did ask after the game if we have data show QB hit rates, pressures etc compared to other teams, because I am not that thick headed. I never heard a response. I'm more just thinking out loud on here with you guys, its not scripture.

10th fewest hits in the league. 6th fewest sacks. 5th best pass protection rate in league.

To be fair we had this argument in the OL thread for years so perhaps i'm a little touchy because there IS someone that thick headed.

To be clear I am not saying scheme doesn't matter. Not even saying that 9ers scheme might be a problem. My point has always been if you are going to say DEFINITVELY that the 9ers don't value o line or they suck at it or the blocking scheme is at issue present the data that shows that. No one ever does. One person has moved the goalposts so far the penguins are jumping off them into the water in Antarctica.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
More like accurate take. Nagy is a Reid guy. He came over from Philly.

So Kyle gets all the credit for Brock then since every scout and coach is a Kyle guy.

I would say a lot of it's on KS. With BP, let's remember.. it's like the TB12 documentary which was called The Brady Six. That Pats admit in the doc, they essentially lucked into Brady, because if they knew who Brady was, they don't leave him on the board for 190+ selections of the draft. There is always a luck element. Trading up to mid first round in a bold move to land Mahomes is probably less luck, than landing the GOAT in your lap in Round 6, if I were to offer my opinion.

I will always believe we basically lucked into BP, as no way we leave him there til 262 if we saw what he was doing for us this year coming. But to answer you question, yes it's KS making the major dollars. He puts his team around him, which means JL, all coaches, scouting personnel, this is KS surrounding himself with bright minded folks, which he has always done very well.

I agree 💯%, because in any part of the NFL game that we love, luck does play a part. Sometimes big sometimes small. I think Kyle just lucked into Purdy, otherwise as you said, they'd have used their 2nd round pick (which was their highest pick in 2022) to get Brock.

P.s. the buck stops with Kyle. He'll get fired if he doesn't get his Franchise QB, and now he has (possibly) two good ones, his job is safe. Look at any NFL head coach. if they don't get their Franchise QB, they will eventually be fired. Look at the coaches that get a franchise Level QB, their coaching tenure is decades long in some cases.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
All the coaches are getting hired away because Jimmy Garoppolo single handedly outdueled Dak Prescott, Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford in a single playoffs. Kyle has nothing to do with any of it.

Fact check true.

Until we lose, then It's all the QBs fault.

I'm sure we'll win our super bowl eventually, though, right?

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Didn't we hear recently it was Griese who pushed hard for Purdy?

No no no it's the HC regardless of anything…unless it's here then ifs a bad decision. Then it's all kyle.

Why are you putting words in my mouth? Its ok bro we all know you arent perfect.

That's more a statement in general from some in here…not directly meant for you.

I'm reading about Montana and the Toronto argonauts as opposed to niners superbowl news this week. Thanks Shanahan.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'm reading about Montana and the Toronto argonauts as opposed to niners superbowl news this week. Thanks Shanahan.

Stay positive. Our time Is coming.