49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Each situation is different, you know that. Sometimes it's a strong GM and a not so strong HC. Reid after like a decade plus in the league, if you want to hire him, yeah you have to give him org control. KS was a hot commodity and a pretty big ticket hire, he got a lot of org control here. We all know this.

And if you did your research you'd know who was in control of finding and drafting Mahomes…it wasn't Reid it was Veach. It's been well documented EVEN Andy said it lol…the fact that you can't recognize the truth of THAT situation is beyond me. Unless there's a narrative. Which is usually the reason.

https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2022/03/05/patrick-mahomes-andy-reid-brett-veach-scouting-nfl-draft

Dude how much does Reid make and how much does Veach make.. get some facts, and come back and see me.

how is this:

In 2004, Veach began his career as a coaching intern with the Philadelphia Eagles under head coach Andy Reid. In 2008, he was promoted to coaches' assistant.

Reid hired the freakin guy. So no Reid no Veach.. no Veach, no Mahomes.. that means no Reid = no Mahomes.. do the math NY

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Each situation is different, you know that. Sometimes it's a strong GM and a not so strong HC. Reid after like a decade plus in the league, if you want to hire him, yeah you have to give him org control. KS was a hot commodity and a pretty big ticket hire, he got a lot of org control here. We all know this.

And if you did your research you'd know who was in control of finding and drafting Mahomes…it wasn't Reid it was Veach. It's been well documented EVEN Andy said it lol…the fact that you can't recognize the truth of THAT situation is beyond me. Unless there's a narrative. Which is usually the reason.

https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2022/03/05/patrick-mahomes-andy-reid-brett-veach-scouting-nfl-draft

Dude how much does Reid make and how much does Veach make.. get some facts, and come back and see me.

how is this:

In 2004, Veach began his career as a coaching intern with the Philadelphia Eagles under head coach Andy Reid. In 2008, he was promoted to coaches' assistant.

Reid hired the freakin guy. So no Reid no Veach.. no Veach, no Mahomes.. that means no Reid = no Mahomes.. do the math NY

wow .. denial mode engage

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Dude how much does Reid make and how much does Veach make.. get some facts, and come back and see me.

how is this:

In 2004, Veach began his career as a coaching intern with the Philadelphia Eagles under head coach Andy Reid. In 2008, he was promoted to coaches' assistant.

Reid hired the freakin guy. So no Reid no Veach.. no Veach, no Mahomes.. that means no Reid = no Mahomes.. do the math NY

Reid literally saying it was Veach lol.

https://theathletic.com/3081144/2022/01/21/the-rise-of-chiefs-gm-brett-veach-and-the-story-that-explains-it-pat-no-matter-what/?source=user_shared_article

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/platform/amp/2018/5/4/17318756/andy-reid-brett-veach-was-responsible-for-patrick-mahomes

why are you being so thick headed about this?

"Brett Veach was responsible for him. John Dorsey kind of put him in that position to look at him." - Andy Reid

So no Bill Walsh no anything…my god why are we being so dumb today? Acting like a person can't do their job or they can't be responsible for anything because of the person they're tied to. Unbelievable.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Dude how much does Reid make and how much does Veach make.. get some facts, and come back and see me.

how is this:

In 2004, Veach began his career as a coaching intern with the Philadelphia Eagles under head coach Andy Reid. In 2008, he was promoted to coaches' assistant.

Reid hired the freakin guy. So no Reid no Veach.. no Veach, no Mahomes.. that means no Reid = no Mahomes.. do the math NY

Reid literally saying it was Veach lol.

https://theathletic.com/3081144/2022/01/21/the-rise-of-chiefs-gm-brett-veach-and-the-story-that-explains-it-pat-no-matter-what/?source=user_shared_article

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/platform/amp/2018/5/4/17318756/andy-reid-brett-veach-was-responsible-for-patrick-mahomes

why are you being so thick headed about this?

Do you agree that Mahomes would not be in KC, but for Andy Reid?

Veach wouldn't be in KC or Nagy or Mahomes.. without Reid.. we all know it.. you won't admit it but you won't answer or deal with the fact of where these guys that found Mahomes came from.. the answer is they came from Philly, Reid hired Veach as a freakin intern in Philly. So for you to act like Reid is some country bumpkin who dumb lucked into Mahomes.. didn't exactly happen like that..

You keep saying it was Veach who found Mahomes.. sure and it was Reid who found Veach, that's what you are not getting. Starts with Reid putting ppl around him.. when you do that good things happen. No question in my mind that Mahomes wouldn't be near KC without Reid and his team of ppl.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Do you agree that Mahomes would not be in KC, but for Andy Reid?

Veach wouldn't be in KC or Nagy or Mahomes.. without Reid.. we all know it.. you won't admit it but you won't answer or deal with the fact of where these guys that found Mahomes came from.. the answer is they came from Philly, Reid hired Veach as a freakin intern in Philly. So for you to act like Reid is some country bumpkin who dumb lucked into Mahomes.. didn't exactly happen like that..

You keep saying it was Veach who found Mahomes.. sure and it was Reid who found Veach, that's what you are not getting. Starts with Reid putting ppl around him.. when you do that good things happen. No question in my mind that Mahomes wouldn't be near KC without Reid and his team of ppl.

"Brett Veach was responsible for him. John Dorsey kind of put him in that position to look at him." - Andy Reid

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Do you agree that Mahomes would not be in KC, but for Andy Reid?

Veach wouldn't be in KC or Nagy or Mahomes.. without Reid.. we all know it.. you won't admit it but you won't answer or deal with the fact of where these guys that found Mahomes came from.. the answer is they came from Philly, Reid hired Veach as a freakin intern in Philly. So for you to act like Reid is some country bumpkin who dumb lucked into Mahomes.. didn't exactly happen like that..

You keep saying it was Veach who found Mahomes.. sure and it was Reid who found Veach, that's what you are not getting. Starts with Reid putting ppl around him.. when you do that good things happen. No question in my mind that Mahomes wouldn't be near KC without Reid and his team of ppl.

"Brett Veach was responsible for him. John Dorsey kind of put him in that position to look at him." - Andy Reid

Again you don't answer the question.. is Mahomes in KC without Reid.. yes or no?

You think Veach is there by himself without Reid? lol

If anything that is a comp one could make between Reid and KS, they both put great teams around themselves.. it's a large part of the battle of HC..

Veach learned how to be a scout under Howie Roseman, then John Dorsey. He found Mahomes. End of story.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Veach learned how to be a scout under Howie Roseman, then John Dorsey. He found Mahomes. End of story.

This is classic NY.. I literally pulled from wikipedia how Reid hired Veach as a freakin intern. Brought him to KC from Philly. No doubt in my mind if KC didn't hire Reid as HC, Veach and all those guys don't follow to KC and they look very different right now.. NY posting as if Veach hired himself in KC lol

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Again you don't answer the question.. is Mahomes in KC without Reid.. yes or no?

You think Veach is there by himself without Reid? lol

If anything that is a comp one could make between Reid and KS, they both put great teams around themselves.. it's a large part of the battle of HC..

That's irrelevant. Reid didn't find Mahomes like everyone in here trying to pretend. John Dorsey is the guy that hired Brett and then promoted him. Brent learned to be a scout through Howie Roseman

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Do you agree that Mahomes would not be in KC, but for Andy Reid?

Veach wouldn't be in KC or Nagy or Mahomes.. without Reid.. we all know it.. you won't admit it but you won't answer or deal with the fact of where these guys that found Mahomes came from.. the answer is they came from Philly, Reid hired Veach as a freakin intern in Philly. So for you to act like Reid is some country bumpkin who dumb lucked into Mahomes.. didn't exactly happen like that..

You keep saying it was Veach who found Mahomes.. sure and it was Reid who found Veach, that's what you are not getting. Starts with Reid putting ppl around him.. when you do that good things happen. No question in my mind that Mahomes wouldn't be near KC without Reid and his team of ppl.

"Brett Veach was responsible for him. John Dorsey kind of put him in that position to look at him." - Andy Reid

Again you don't answer the question.. is Mahomes in KC without Reid.. yes or no?

You think Veach is there by himself without Reid? lol

If anything that is a comp one could make between Reid and KS, they both put great teams around themselves.. it's a large part of the battle of HC..

NOT sure what the actual argument is, but to my personal opinion, it was still up to Reid if he wanted Mahomes ... which also showed that he knew how limited Akilex Smith was..

if you don't believe this, then just go back and think why Pat isn't a 49er even after Runner Up Kyle said he was the perfect QB prospect for him.. bottom line, he decided that he can do magic with CJ under his Gimmick Offense.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
This is classic NY.. I literally pulled from wikipedia how Reid hired Veach as a freakin intern. Brought him to KC from Philly. No doubt in my mind if KC didn't hire Reid as HC, Veach and all those guys don't follow to KC and they look very different right now.. NY posting as if Veach hired himself in KC lol

we're talking about scouting, which he learned being under the GM in Philly. Not getting a HC coffee.

making up loose end whataboutisms and 7 degrees of separation to rebuttal is weak ass s**t. You got the HC telling you point blank who was responsible for drafting Mahomes. It wasn't Reid. Pretend all you want otherwise. Doesn't change a damn thing.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Again you don't answer the question.. is Mahomes in KC without Reid.. yes or no?

You think Veach is there by himself without Reid? lol

If anything that is a comp one could make between Reid and KS, they both put great teams around themselves.. it's a large part of the battle of HC..

That's irrelevant. Reid didn't find Mahomes like everyone in here trying to pretend. John Dorsey is the guy that hired Brett and then promoted him. Brent learned to be a scout through Howie Roseman

Last time I'm on this topic but I will spell it out.. Reid didn't find Mahomes he isn't a one man scouting dept.. but he did find Veach and Nagy.. who you credit as the main ppl involved, those are Reid guys both from Philly and they ain't in KC without Andy. You don't get Mahomes in KC without the Reid hire. You just don't. Reid makes 10x what those other guys do, he runs that show and found great ppl. Your posts are like saying Dave Chapelle didn't do the Chapelle show cuz he had writers who wrote the jokes.. it's a silly take.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Again you don't answer the question.. is Mahomes in KC without Reid.. yes or no?

You think Veach is there by himself without Reid? lol

If anything that is a comp one could make between Reid and KS, they both put great teams around themselves.. it's a large part of the battle of HC..

That's irrelevant. Reid didn't find Mahomes like everyone in here trying to pretend. John Dorsey is the guy that hired Brett and then promoted him. Brent learned to be a scout through Howie Roseman

Last time I'm on this topic but I will spell it out.. Reid didn't find Mahomes he isn't a one man scouting dept.. but he did find Veach and Nagy.. who you credit as the main ppl involved, those are Reid guys both from Philly and they ain't in KC without Andy. You don't get Mahomes in KC without the Reid hire. You just don't. Reid makes 10x what those other guys do, he runs that show and found great ppl. Your posts are like saying Dave Chapelle didn't do the Chapelle show cuz he had writers who wrote the jokes.. it's a silly take.

So you just want someone to agree with you that Andy Reid was INDIRECTLY responsible for drafting Mahomes? 🤣

Agree with Young and Sanders on Kyle. I want him as the Niners coach for life. He is human, and will never be as perfect as the irrational fan wants him to be.