49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by dmax:
its facts..2 super bowl trips ..2 losses . Where is the lie?

Again sounds like Lebron circa 2011.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Again sounds like Lebron circa 2011.

if it sounds like a duck.....

Originally posted by dmax:
if it sounds like a duck.....

He sure never won did he

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by dmax:
if it sounds like a duck.....

He sure never won did he

😂

You can say Kyle got a couple plays wrong throughout the season and also think he's a f**king damn good coach…anyone saying he needs to be fired is a moron plain and simple.

or... anyone does not wanna say he needs to be fired is a moron simple and plain..

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by thl408:
He made it to the SB and lost to the SB winner. He lost to the Rams and they were the SB winner. He lost to PHI because the 49er offense s**t the bed. Maybe the 49ers weren't good enough to beat the SB champs.

He absolutely dominates the Rams…..until it counts

No coach "dominates" another team.

A coach's team does the dominating.

It's the whole "Jimmy Wins" ish in different context and gets really annoying to see over and over like this is a video game or something.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by thl408:
He made it to the SB and lost to the SB winner. He lost to the Rams and they were the SB winner. He lost to PHI because the 49er offense s**t the bed. Maybe the 49ers weren't good enough to beat the SB champs.

He absolutely dominates the Rams…..until it counts

No coach "dominates" another team.

A coach's team does the dominating.

It's the whole "Jimmy Wins" ish in different context and gets really annoying to see over and over like this is a video game or something.

The Best Runner Up Coach in the NFL !!!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Based on that thinking, they should not have drafted Purdy. The fact that OLinemen from college are raw and untutored doesn't mean they shouldn't continue invest draft picks into the offensive line.

To be fair, I think NCs main point is simply to do just that, add some day two and day three picks to the OLine on a annual basis and try out UDFA guys like Brendel, Poe and others so that you have some depth that can compete with the other depth players and choose the best ones.

I'm sorry how does that apply to Brock? That makes zero sense based on what I said.

You literally skipped past my point that drafting OL high (like in the past) isn't a set it and forget it situation like it was in the past. These OL are not running a bunch of true pass sets. They are raw. I never said don't draft them high. I said let's stop acting like that would change much of anything.

we had a top 10 OL this yr and yet people are acting like our OL is junk.

The point NC tries to make is simply to invest more in the OLine, which they've been doing more of in the last 3 years or so. Which is a good thing.

All NFL draftees, be they 1st round or 7th round are all pretty much raw. Only a rare few are as polished as veterans, so saying OLinemen are raw comming out of college doesn't say much.

Key is in having the raw material talent to develop. If you don't infuse the OLine with talent (be it free agents or draftees) the OLine level of play eventually deteriorates. Yes McGlinchy and Trent were decent to good acquisitions, but with Purdy going forward - the OLine should be much more of a priority now than in the past.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
You can say Kyle got a couple plays wrong throughout the season and also think he's a f**king damn good coach…anyone saying he needs to be fired is a moron plain and simple.

i would love to see the freakout if the internet existed when bill walsh's stacked teams in the '80s lost in the playoffs.

Originally posted by Giedi:
The point NC tries to make is simply to invest more in the OLine, which they've been doing more of in the last 3 years or so. Which is a good thing.

All NFL draftees, be they 1st round or 7th round are all pretty much raw. Only a rare few are as polished as veterans, so saying OLinemen are raw comming out of college doesn't say much.

Key is in having the raw material talent to develop. If you don't infuse the OLine with talent (be it free agents or draftees) the OLine level of play eventually deteriorates. Yes McGlinchy and Trent were decent to good acquisitions, but with Purdy going forward - the OLine should be much more of a priority now than in the past.

Theres the disconnect. It was never not a priority. Again compare it to the secondary.

1st rounder on Mike. 2nd rounder on Banks. Trade for Williams
vs
One 1st rounder from a previous administration, a FA signing and late 3rd rounders or later.

If you wanna criticize the guys they got fine, but it's been a priority. Maybe 3 teams have made it a bigger priority over the same time as Shanahan and Lynch have.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Based on that thinking, they should not have drafted Purdy. The fact that OLinemen from college are raw and untutored doesn't mean they shouldn't continue invest draft picks into the offensive line.

To be fair, I think NCs main point is simply to do just that, add some day two and day three picks to the OLine on a annual basis and try out UDFA guys like Brendel, Poe and others so that you have some depth that can compete with the other depth players and choose the best ones.

They have been doing that. Every year for the last 3. That isn't his point.

If Ncommand was picking for the Texans he'd be taking a guard at 2.

I think NCs point goes to the ShanaLynch philosophy of "the game is won in the trenches" and he's simply saying if ShanaLynch truly believes that, then they should draft OLinemen higher than they have been.

Now, ShanaLynch has been drafting more offensive linemen recently, and I think it has to do more with injury than philosophy. Bigger OLinemen should be less injured vs smaller linemen, if all else are equal.

If there has been a deciding factor in all of Kyle's losses in the playoffs, injuries have been a big part of it.

Game is won and lost by consistent QB play. It's the difference Brock made.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Giedi:
The point NC tries to make is simply to invest more in the OLine, which they've been doing more of in the last 3 years or so. Which is a good thing.

All NFL draftees, be they 1st round or 7th round are all pretty much raw. Only a rare few are as polished as veterans, so saying OLinemen are raw comming out of college doesn't say much.

Key is in having the raw material talent to develop. If you don't infuse the OLine with talent (be it free agents or draftees) the OLine level of play eventually deteriorates. Yes McGlinchy and Trent were decent to good acquisitions, but with Purdy going forward - the OLine should be much more of a priority now than in the past.

Theres the disconnect. It was never not a priority. Again compare it to the secondary.

1st rounder on Mike. 2nd rounder on Banks. Trade for Williams
vs
One 1st rounder from a previous administration, a FA signing and late 3rd rounders or later.

If you wanna criticize the guys they got fine, but it's been a priority. Maybe 3 teams have made it a bigger priority over the same time as Shanahan and Lynch have.

Prior to the 2019/2020 seasons they relied more on lower round picks and UDFAs. (Aside from Trent and McGlinchy) They did prioritize OLinemen, but just the wrong kind. (fast athletic and small and likely to be more injured) After those injury filled seasons Banks was drafted and more recently they have invested in higher round OLinemen. (bigger more durable OLinemen).

This years OLine performance is a result of better OLine evaluation, and Foerster has been impressive as a coach vs Benton.

But I think the right tackle is a Priority in this offseason. They have to either draft or sign a good RT. I don't think McGlinchey will be back. McGlinchey's durability is an issue with me. He's had some serious injuries in the past and this year he's played injured (broken ribs). 49ers don't have a first or second round this year, so they will be limited in what they can upgrade. But a day three pick can still potentially add depth if nothing else to the OLine.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Game is won and lost by consistent QB play. It's the difference Brock made.

Game is won when you can give your QB time to throw, ie the trenches again.