49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

It's still more impressive than what Kyle did with an established team/top roster. I said Kyle has deserved to win the award before, but the only reason he got consideration this year is because he had his QB depth chart all f**ked up. It's not like our QBs got worse as we went down the depth chart, they got better lol

No it's not. They didn't beat a single playoff team. I watch that team every week. SF went on to have the longest winning streak in the NFL with multiple QBs and injuries all the same.

You, me and the rest of the world didn't know anything about Brock. He's the last dude picked in the draft and his skill set doesn't exactly ooze with elite upside. You're out of your mind if you don't think kyle put him in the best position to succeed.

Purdy ran the offense better than Jimmy. Brock's run is the best our offense has looked under Kyle. This is a case where he may have just lucked into his long term QB.

Dabolls offense sucked. Dan Jones sucks, and his WRs suck. Just winning games and going to the playoffs with that group deserves COTY over getting hyped for starting the wrong QB

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Game is won and lost by consistent QB play. It's the difference Brock made.

Game is won when you can give your QB time to throw, ie the trenches again.

We've gon through the TTT stats.. it's not the OL

Purdy said Aiyuk was getting open, (when he got injured) he just needed another split second to get it to him but the protections failed.

He needed to step up into that clean pocket he had.

I blame Kyle more than the protections, but the protections definitely shoulders some of the blame. I just think Kyle was too aggressive on that drive, and should have worked more on the run game. I don't know if Kroft could have done anything more than he did, considering he's a 3rd stringer (I think) blocking on of the best edge rushers in the NFL.

Going forward, I hope Kyle stays more patient against good defenses. I hope Kyle realizes he has a franchise QB in Brock (potentially 2 in Trey) and does a lot more work schemewise to protect them better and get better protection talent around them. That includes possibly better TEs that can pass block better as well as OLinemen that can pass block with the best.

The offensive line was much better than what I would have predicted at the beginning of the year, and it only broke down in the NFCCG against an elite pass rush team. Great accomplishment but they can now build on that success.

There was a clean pocket to step up into. Brock just needs to speed up his internal clock a bit. So that alarm goes off sooner. He should be counting 3 mississippi and than start buying time for himself by stepping up or looking to escape. I pefer he step up everytime he has a clean pocket. This is the NFL and elite pass rushers get paid big money for a reason.

Like I have stated a few times in this thread. I would rather have Juice on the field over any TE on our roster not named George Kittle. Juice is a better run blocker, route runner, pass catcher as well as a better pass protector than any of our backup TE's. With our top 5 weapons on offense, we can run any formation and scheme out of 21 personnel because of how versatile they all are.

Coach:

I hope all, at least most, of my fellow 49ers fans will agree--a season is not a success or failure based upon whether one reaches the Super Bowl.

Considering all the challenges the team faced this year, the 49ers had a Great Season.

Your staff and management have built a great team and we cannot wait to enjoy watching the 49ers play next season.

And putting on my medic hat for a moment, the most important consideration for at least this fan is not winning--but that all team members remain safe during the season and the pleasure we will receive from seeing the entire team healthy and enjoying playing--especially since we receive so much pleasure from watching you all do so.

Respectfully submitted

49ers Fan Class of 79

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Game is won and lost by consistent QB play. It's the difference Brock made.

Game is won when you can give your QB time to throw, ie the trenches again.

We've gon through the TTT stats.. it's not the OL

Purdy said Aiyuk was getting open, (when he got injured) he just needed another split second to get it to him but the protections failed.

He needed to step up into that clean pocket he had.

I blame Kyle more than the protections, but the protections definitely shoulders some of the blame. I just think Kyle was too aggressive on that drive, and should have worked more on the run game. I don't know if Kroft could have done anything more than he did, considering he's a 3rd stringer (I think) blocking on of the best edge rushers in the NFL.

Going forward, I hope Kyle stays more patient against good defenses. I hope Kyle realizes he has a franchise QB in Brock (potentially 2 in Trey) and does a lot more work schemewise to protect them better and get better protection talent around them. That includes possibly better TEs that can pass block better as well as OLinemen that can pass block with the best.

The offensive line was much better than what I would have predicted at the beginning of the year, and it only broke down in the NFCCG against an elite pass rush team. Great accomplishment but they can now build on that success.

There was a clean pocket to step up into. Brock just needs to speed up his internal clock a bit. So that alarm goes off sooner. He should be counting 3 mississippi and than start buying time for himself by stepping up or looking to escape. I pefer he step up everytime he has a clean pocket. This is the NFL and elite pass rushers get paid big money for a reason.

Like I have stated a few times in this thread. I would rather have Juice on the field over any TE on our roster not named George Kittle. Juice is a better run blocker, route runner, pass catcher as well as a better pass protector than any of our backup TE's. With our top 5 weapons on offense, we can run any formation and scheme out of 21 personnel because of how versatile they all are.

If "if and buts were candy and nuts..." Kyle had a rookie QB going against the best pass rush in the NFL, he needs to be more patient and let the ground game work. The result of the play, clean pocket or no clean pocket, was a devastating injury to his young franchise QB. Freak injury or no freak injury, I put most of the blame on Kyle for having too much confidence in Brock, which - in the long run - run should be a good thing. And Kyle being Kyle and being too aggressive.

I view it like how Kyle drafted Joe Williams, he saw the talent, but he just outsmarted himself because what really mattered wasn't on film. What really matters is protecting your QB in an NFL season. He lost 3 in one season. That could be just bad luck, but maybe not? He prides his system as being so QB friendly that supposedly any QB can run it. He does a lot of play action and depends on a strong run game. So he drafts OLinemen that are better run blockers. Maybe its time to rethink that if he's going to pass against the best pass rush team in the NFL - instead of running on them. Just my two centavos.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Purdy ran the offense better than Jimmy. Brock's run is the best our offense has looked under Kyle. This is a case where he may have just lucked into his long term QB.

Dabolls offense sucked. Dan Jones sucks, and his WRs suck. Just winning games and going to the playoffs with that group deserves COTY over getting hyped for starting the wrong QB

Awesome, you don't think any of that has to do with coaching? He STILL the last pick in the draft, still a rookie and was QB3 all year.

Yeah Jones sucks so bad he's about to make $30M+ a year lol. They didn't beat a single playoff team. They squeaked into a larger playoff pool. Bravo. They avg 21 pts per game, so amazing.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Game is won and lost by consistent QB play. It's the difference Brock made.

Game is won when you can give your QB time to throw, ie the trenches again.

We've gon through the TTT stats.. it's not the OL

Purdy said Aiyuk was getting open, (when he got injured) he just needed another split second to get it to him but the protections failed.

He needed to step up into that clean pocket he had.

I blame Kyle more than the protections, but the protections definitely shoulders some of the blame. I just think Kyle was too aggressive on that drive, and should have worked more on the run game. I don't know if Kroft could have done anything more than he did, considering he's a 3rd stringer (I think) blocking on of the best edge rushers in the NFL.

Going forward, I hope Kyle stays more patient against good defenses. I hope Kyle realizes he has a franchise QB in Brock (potentially 2 in Trey) and does a lot more work schemewise to protect them better and get better protection talent around them. That includes possibly better TEs that can pass block better as well as OLinemen that can pass block with the best.

The offensive line was much better than what I would have predicted at the beginning of the year, and it only broke down in the NFCCG against an elite pass rush team. Great accomplishment but they can now build on that success.

There was a clean pocket to step up into. Brock just needs to speed up his internal clock a bit. So that alarm goes off sooner. He should be counting 3 mississippi and than start buying time for himself by stepping up or looking to escape. I pefer he step up everytime he has a clean pocket. This is the NFL and elite pass rushers get paid big money for a reason.

Like I have stated a few times in this thread. I would rather have Juice on the field over any TE on our roster not named George Kittle. Juice is a better run blocker, route runner, pass catcher as well as a better pass protector than any of our backup TE's. With our top 5 weapons on offense, we can run any formation and scheme out of 21 personnel because of how versatile they all are.

If "if and buts were candy and nuts..." Kyle had a rookie QB going against the best pass rush in the NFL, he needs to be more patient and let the ground game work. The result of the play, clean pocket or no clean pocket, was a devastating injury to his young franchise QB. Freak injury or no freak injury, I put most of the blame on Kyle for having too much confidence in Brock, which - in the long run - run should be a good thing. And Kyle being Kyle and being too aggressive.

I view it like how Kyle drafted Joe Williams, he saw the talent, but he just outsmarted himself because what really mattered wasn't on film. What really matters is protecting your QB in an NFL season. He lost 3 in one season. That could be just bad luck, but maybe not? He prides his system as being so QB friendly that supposedly any QB can run it. He does a lot of play action and depends on a strong run game. So he drafts OLinemen that are better run blockers. Maybe its time to rethink that if he's going to pass against the best pass rush team in the NFL - instead of running on them. Just my two centavos.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Philly was playing to stop the run and the short passing game. Philly just went down the field and scored a TD. The last thing we needed to do is run into a brick wall and go 3 and out early and give the eagles an opportunity at building a bigger lead and the momentum. We were moving the ball through the passing game just fine. Kyle schemed Aiyuk open for a chunk play. If you want to argue that Kyle is to blame because of a poor personnel decision, I agree. But to try and blame it on scheme. GTFOH!

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Philly was playing to stop the run and the short passing game. Philly just went down the field and scored a TD. The last thing we needed to do is run into a brick wall and go 3 and out early and give the eagles an opportunity at building a bigger lead and the momentum. We were moving the ball through the passing game just fine. Kyle schemed Aiyuk open for a chunk play. If you want to argue that Kyle is to blame because of a poor personnel decision, I agree. But to try and blame it on scheme. GTFOH!

People complain about running the ball instead of passing to setup the run. People complain about not running the ball enough. It's all emotional, trying to blame someone for not getting the results they wanted.

on that play with Reddick, it was just a good gamble on his part. As a defender you're taught to defend the run first. He didn't even try to on that play-action. If that was a handoff…he would have had a blown assignment and an explosive. He got lucky and then beat his guy. Also Brock HAS to know that matchup is there on his right side. He HAS to have more pocket awareness/faster internal clock.

is what it is. There's a whole other team that's pretty freaking good that they have to play against.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Philly was playing to stop the run and the short passing game. Philly just went down the field and scored a TD. The last thing we needed to do is run into a brick wall and go 3 and out early and give the eagles an opportunity at building a bigger lead and the momentum. We were moving the ball through the passing game just fine. Kyle schemed Aiyuk open for a chunk play. If you want to argue that Kyle is to blame because of a poor personnel decision, I agree. But to try and blame it on scheme. GTFOH!

People complain about running the ball instead of passing to setup the run. People complain about not running the ball enough. It's all emotional, trying to blame someone for not getting the results they wanted.

on that play with Reddick, it was just a good gamble on his part. As a defender you're taught to defend the run first. He didn't even try to on that play-action. If that was a handoff…he would have had a blown assignment and an explosive. He got lucky and then beat his guy. Also Brock HAS to know that matchup is there on his right side. He HAS to have more pocket awareness/faster internal clock.

is what it is. There's a whole other team that's pretty freaking good that they have to play against.

You're preaching to the choir, botha.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Purdy ran the offense better than Jimmy. Brock's run is the best our offense has looked under Kyle. This is a case where he may have just lucked into his long term QB.

Dabolls offense sucked. Dan Jones sucks, and his WRs suck. Just winning games and going to the playoffs with that group deserves COTY over getting hyped for starting the wrong QB

Awesome, you don't think any of that has to do with coaching? He STILL the last pick in the draft, still a rookie and was QB3 all year.

Yeah Jones sucks so bad he's about to make $30M+ a year lol. They didn't beat a single playoff team. They squeaked into a larger playoff pool. Bravo. They avg 21 pts per game, so amazing.

Jimmy was once the highest paid player in the NFL. I don't care about his salary lol. It's not a good roster and he went to the playoffs in his first year as a HC. Just give credit where it's due, he did deserve it this year.

And Brock gets a lot of credit for just walking in and playing like that. Kyles coaching couldn't get Jimmy or Trey to run the offense like Brock. Brock came in and elevated the offense whereas Daboll came in and elevated the Giants. It's Dabolls award this year

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Jimmy was once the highest paid player in the NFL. I don't care about his salary lol. It's not a good roster and he went to the playoffs in his first year as a HC. Just give credit where it's due, he did deserve it this year.

And Brock gets a lot of credit for just walking in and playing like that. Kyles coaching couldn't get Jimmy or Trey to run the offense like Brock. Brock came in and elevated the offense whereas Daboll came in and elevated the Giants. It's Dabolls award this year

No he didn't deserve it. Doug Peterson did the same thing. s**t the Vikings were sub .500 last yr and then went 13-4! With the same damn roster. No one said anything about what Kevin o'Connell did.

Great he was better than a dog s**t HC in Joe Judge, that doesn't make you COTY. You can pretend Jones stinks but YES he will get paid this yr because he actually doesn't stink.

Kyle's coaching got Jimmy to have one of the highest winning % in the league. We all know he's not great. Brock ran the scheme setup by the HC. Man you're so ungrateful.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

No he didn't deserve it. Doug Peterson did the same thing. s**t the Vikings were sub .500 last yr and then went 13-4! With the same damn roster. No one said anything about what Kevin o'Connell did.

Great he was better than a dog s**t HC in Joe Judge, that doesn't make you COTY. You can pretend Jones stinks but YES he will get paid this yr because he actually doesn't stink.

Kyle's coaching got Jimmy to have one of the highest winning % in the league. We all know he's not great. Brock ran the scheme setup by the HC. Man you're so ungrateful.

The Vikings have way more talent than the Giants. Same with the Jags and this isn't Pedersons first year as a HC. Daboll deserved it and they got it right. I think Kyle will get a COTY, Daboll was just the right choice this season

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The Vikings have way more talent than the Giants. Same with the Jags and this isn't Pedersons first year as a HC. Daboll deserved it and they got it right. I think Kyle will get a COTY, Daboll was just the right choice this season

Fake news. Giants have 1st rd picks and high end drafted guys all over that roster. They've spent cash all over the place the past couple years. The only thing they need help at is WR and that's not to say they didn't spend cash at that position either.

That was a roster that could win games all the same and they did vs non-playoff caliber teams. Bravo Daboll.

No one was more deserving for COTY than Shanahan, who the hell gets to the NFC Championship with their third QB???

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Fake news. Giants have 1st rd picks and high end drafted guys all over that roster. They've spent cash all over the place the past couple years. The only thing they need help at is WR and that's not to say they didn't spend cash at that position either.

That was a roster that could win games all the same and they did vs non-playoff caliber teams. Bravo Daboll.

You're acting like Kyle went through a gauntlet of a schedule this year. Dabolls roster is worse (way worse) than ours. They spend money on golladay. Its not like I'm saying anything outlandish man. Daboll is in fact the COTY lol

Look man, I'm forced to watch that Giants every week. Almost all my friends are Giants fans. I like to think I have an idea of what they are and aren't. They squeaked by with s**t luck wins and couldn't beat a single playoff team. There was more deserving HCs imo and overall you're not gonna say anything that will change my opinion on it.