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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Look man, I'm forced to watch that Giants every week. Almost all my friends are Giants fans. I like to think I have an idea of what they are and aren't. They squeaked by with s**t luck wins and couldn't beat a single playoff team. There was more deserving HCs imo and overall you're not gonna say anything that will change my opinion on it.

I don't expect you to change your opinion, you're too emotionally invested in Kyle getting his COTY. Just telling you why your opinion of Kyle being the COTY wasn't shared by most of the voters
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Feb 10, 2023 at 7:00 AM ]
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You're acting like Kyle went through a gauntlet of a schedule this year. Dabolls roster is worse (way worse) than ours. They spend money on golladay. Its not like saying anything outlandish man. Daboll is in fact the COTY lol

Lol neither did NY (have a gauntlet of a schedule) and again when they did face any playoff team, they lost.

they spent cash on Golladay and Shepard. I said they needed help at WR, but you're acting like that team had nothing across the board…which in fact tells me you don't pay attention to that team. I did and have for a f**king long time.

no s**t he's the COTY, he shouldn't have been and outside of Kyle there were better options. You'd think coach of the year means who's the best coach, which he most certainly is not.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I don't expect you to change your opinion, you're too emotionally invested in Kyle getting his COTY. Just telling you why your opinion of Kyle being the COTY wasn't shared by most of the voters

Lol I could say the same damn thing about you! I read your nonsense posts in this thread about him. Why would I ever expect you to say anything different? So save me the bias takes my dude.

I also didn't say it should have been Kyle no matter what. I said there were better options. I also don't believe for a f**king second that Daboll was the best coach in the NFL this past yr…which is what that award should mean.
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Game is won and lost by consistent QB play. It's the difference Brock made.

Game is won when you can give your QB time to throw, ie the trenches again.
We've gon through the TTT stats.. it's not the OL

Purdy said Aiyuk was getting open, (when he got injured) he just needed another split second to get it to him but the protections failed.

He needed to step up into that clean pocket he had.

I blame Kyle more than the protections, but the protections definitely shoulders some of the blame. I just think Kyle was too aggressive on that drive, and should have worked more on the run game. I don't know if Kroft could have done anything more than he did, considering he's a 3rd stringer (I think) blocking on of the best edge rushers in the NFL.

Going forward, I hope Kyle stays more patient against good defenses. I hope Kyle realizes he has a franchise QB in Brock (potentially 2 in Trey) and does a lot more work schemewise to protect them better and get better protection talent around them. That includes possibly better TEs that can pass block better as well as OLinemen that can pass block with the best.

The offensive line was much better than what I would have predicted at the beginning of the year, and it only broke down in the NFCCG against an elite pass rush team. Great accomplishment but they can now build on that success.

There was a clean pocket to step up into. Brock just needs to speed up his internal clock a bit. So that alarm goes off sooner. He should be counting 3 mississippi and than start buying time for himself by stepping up or looking to escape. I pefer he step up everytime he has a clean pocket. This is the NFL and elite pass rushers get paid big money for a reason.

Like I have stated a few times in this thread. I would rather have Juice on the field over any TE on our roster not named George Kittle. Juice is a better run blocker, route runner, pass catcher as well as a better pass protector than any of our backup TE's. With our top 5 weapons on offense, we can run any formation and scheme out of 21 personnel because of how versatile they all are.

If "if and buts were candy and nuts..." Kyle had a rookie QB going against the best pass rush in the NFL, he needs to be more patient and let the ground game work. The result of the play, clean pocket or no clean pocket, was a devastating injury to his young franchise QB. Freak injury or no freak injury, I put most of the blame on Kyle for having too much confidence in Brock, which - in the long run - run should be a good thing. And Kyle being Kyle and being too aggressive.

I view it like how Kyle drafted Joe Williams, he saw the talent, but he just outsmarted himself because what really mattered wasn't on film. What really matters is protecting your QB in an NFL season. He lost 3 in one season. That could be just bad luck, but maybe not? He prides his system as being so QB friendly that supposedly any QB can run it. He does a lot of play action and depends on a strong run game. So he drafts OLinemen that are better run blockers. Maybe its time to rethink that if he's going to pass against the best pass rush team in the NFL - instead of running on them. Just my two centavos.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Philly was playing to stop the run and the short passing game. Philly just went down the field and scored a TD. The last thing we needed to do is run into a brick wall and go 3 and out early and give the eagles an opportunity at building a bigger lead and the momentum. We were moving the ball through the passing game just fine. Kyle schemed Aiyuk open for a chunk play. If you want to argue that Kyle is to blame because of a poor personnel decision, I agree. But to try and blame it on scheme. GTFOH!

Then we agree, Kyle is to blame at least partially. I think that big score by the Eagles had him in panic mode in the beginning, sort of like how the previous NY Giants/Eagles game went where the NY coach went for it on 4th down. The Commanders coach was very patient in their win against the Eagles. Again it was basically the beginning of the game, not the 2nd Qtr or 3rd Qtr. Its going to be a learning experience for him, just like the Joe Williams incident. He has to be more patient as he gets closer to the Superbowl.

Losing 3 QBs in a season, don't tell me you don't even look at and evaluate the scheme? Come on now. On top of that - you *have to* evaluate the scheme because you just discovered your franchise QB and want to tailor the offense to his skill set, the best possible way.
Grrr you're not a great coach because you helped put together a really good roster and won a ton of games lol. No way can you win an award that's suppose to go to the coach that was the best in the league.

I mean that's like saying Mahomes shouldn't be MVP because he has a great roster and coach around him. I guess it should have gone to Geno Smith or some guy that did well despite his coach and roster? Wait that's not how it works.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I don't expect you to change your opinion, you're too emotionally invested in Kyle getting his COTY. Just telling you why your opinion of Kyle being the COTY wasn't shared by most of the voters

Lol I could say the same damn thing about you! I read your nonsense posts in this thread about him. Why would I ever expect you to say anything different? So save me the bias takes my dude.

I also didn't say it should have been Kyle no matter what. I said there were better options. I also don't believe for a f**king second that Daboll was the best coach in the NFL this past yr…which is what that award should mean.

How am I biased when I said Kyle already should have won one and will win one? The fact that I'm not dying for Kyle to win a dumb award is probably the reason i come to the same conclusion as the voters
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
How am I biased when I said Kyle already should have won one and will win one? The fact that I'm not dying for Kyle to win a dumb award is probably the reason i come to the same conclusion as the voters

I'm not dying either, for whatever reason you think I am…I said there was others that deserved it over Daboll.

He was not the best coach in the NFL this year. They treat this award like it's comeback player of the year or some weird s**t. Not who's the best. Which is what it stands for.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Game is won and lost by consistent QB play. It's the difference Brock made.

Game is won when you can give your QB time to throw, ie the trenches again.
We've gon through the TTT stats.. it's not the OL

Purdy said Aiyuk was getting open, (when he got injured) he just needed another split second to get it to him but the protections failed.

He needed to step up into that clean pocket he had.

I blame Kyle more than the protections, but the protections definitely shoulders some of the blame. I just think Kyle was too aggressive on that drive, and should have worked more on the run game. I don't know if Kroft could have done anything more than he did, considering he's a 3rd stringer (I think) blocking on of the best edge rushers in the NFL.

Going forward, I hope Kyle stays more patient against good defenses. I hope Kyle realizes he has a franchise QB in Brock (potentially 2 in Trey) and does a lot more work schemewise to protect them better and get better protection talent around them. That includes possibly better TEs that can pass block better as well as OLinemen that can pass block with the best.

The offensive line was much better than what I would have predicted at the beginning of the year, and it only broke down in the NFCCG against an elite pass rush team. Great accomplishment but they can now build on that success.

There was a clean pocket to step up into. Brock just needs to speed up his internal clock a bit. So that alarm goes off sooner. He should be counting 3 mississippi and than start buying time for himself by stepping up or looking to escape. I pefer he step up everytime he has a clean pocket. This is the NFL and elite pass rushers get paid big money for a reason.

Like I have stated a few times in this thread. I would rather have Juice on the field over any TE on our roster not named George Kittle. Juice is a better run blocker, route runner, pass catcher as well as a better pass protector than any of our backup TE's. With our top 5 weapons on offense, we can run any formation and scheme out of 21 personnel because of how versatile they all are.

If "if and buts were candy and nuts..." Kyle had a rookie QB going against the best pass rush in the NFL, he needs to be more patient and let the ground game work. The result of the play, clean pocket or no clean pocket, was a devastating injury to his young franchise QB. Freak injury or no freak injury, I put most of the blame on Kyle for having too much confidence in Brock, which - in the long run - run should be a good thing. And Kyle being Kyle and being too aggressive.

I view it like how Kyle drafted Joe Williams, he saw the talent, but he just outsmarted himself because what really mattered wasn't on film. What really matters is protecting your QB in an NFL season. He lost 3 in one season. That could be just bad luck, but maybe not? He prides his system as being so QB friendly that supposedly any QB can run it. He does a lot of play action and depends on a strong run game. So he drafts OLinemen that are better run blockers. Maybe its time to rethink that if he's going to pass against the best pass rush team in the NFL - instead of running on them. Just my two centavos.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Philly was playing to stop the run and the short passing game. Philly just went down the field and scored a TD. The last thing we needed to do is run into a brick wall and go 3 and out early and give the eagles an opportunity at building a bigger lead and the momentum. We were moving the ball through the passing game just fine. Kyle schemed Aiyuk open for a chunk play. If you want to argue that Kyle is to blame because of a poor personnel decision, I agree. But to try and blame it on scheme. GTFOH!

Then we agree, Kyle is to blame at least partially. I think that big score by the Eagles had him in panic mode in the beginning, sort of like how the previous NY Giants/Eagles game went where the NY coach went for it on 4th down. The Commanders coach was very patient in their win against the Eagles. Again it was basically the beginning of the game, not the 2nd Qtr or 3rd Qtr. Its going to be a learning experience for him, just like the Joe Williams incident. He has to be more patient as he gets closer to the Superbowl.

Losing 3 QBs in a season, don't tell me you don't even look at and evaluate the scheme? Come on now. On top of that - you *have to* evaluate the scheme because you just discovered your franchise QB and want to tailor the offense to his skill set, the best possible way.

It was nothing like what the giants did. 49ers and eagles are evenly matched on paper. The giants roster doesn't even come close to the roster of the eagles or niners. There was absolutely nothing wrong with Kyle's scheme early in the game. But you can continue to move the goal posts if you want.
This is a f**king nightmare.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-167072/
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
This is a f**king nightmare.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-167072/

Hire me, I'll walk out with the boombox, setup the playlist, and make sure everyone gets their orange slices & Capri Suns
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Feb 10, 2023 at 7:56 AM ]
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
This is a f**king nightmare.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-167072/

Do 49ers get like a 7th round comp pick for this?
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
This is a f**king nightmare.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-167072/

Do 49ers get like a 7th round comp pick for this?

Only if he's 1/4 Eskimo
A blindfolded monkey, with this roster, and that schedule, could have gone to the playoffs.

If trey had started all year Shanahan would have been 7-10.

IMO Shanahan got lucky trey went out. It would have exposed him.
Originally posted by JustinMT:
What does this man have to do to get Coach of the Year?

Win it all
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
A blindfolded monkey, with this roster, and that schedule, could have gone to the playoffs.

If trey had started all year Shanahan would have been 7-10.

IMO Shanahan got lucky trey went out. It would have exposed him.


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