49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by dj43:
When I saw Smith get up and start punching his fists together, I told my wife, "he didn't catch it. Shanahan should challenge the catch." It just seemed such an obvious signal that he should have challenged on that basis alone, without needing to see the replays. (hindsight)

I'd agree he should have challenged, even without seeing a good replay given the impact of the play. That said it wasn't just Kyle's mistake. In the end it's still a bad call that the league's expedited review system failed to catch. To me, that's the greater failure.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by dj43:
When I saw Smith get up and start punching his fists together, I told my wife, "he didn't catch it. Shanahan should challenge the catch." It just seemed such an obvious signal that he should have challenged on that basis alone, without needing to see the replays. (hindsight)

I'd agree he should have challenged, even without seeing a good replay given the impact of the play. That said it wasn't just Kyle's mistake. In the end it's still a bad call that the league's expedited review system failed to catch. To me, that's the greater failure.

the " clapping " was a common sense that Kyle should have taken as a sign that it was not a catch.. .

he shoulda called a TO event if it was a waste.. WR Smith was inside the 10 yard line so it was worth calling the TO ... had that been reversed, we could have set the tone w/a good drive..

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/george-kittle-yearns-49ers-qb-continuity-brock-purdy-trey-lance-competition

Since the 2017 NFL season, the 49ers had one year (2021) in which their backup was called upon and three times they had to reach down to No. 3 on the depth chart.

"Being able to build a rapport with someone consistently would be very fun," he said. "That's not Jimmy's fault. That's not Trey's fault. That's not Brock's fault. It's just the situation we're in. For some reason, our quarterback position gets hurt sometimes."

Is Bill Belichick to blame for Jimmy's season ending injury in New England?

I been meaning to bring that up. Jimmy G was set to start 4 games in New England and only completed two. Guess Kyle gets the blame for that- not protecting the QB. All the way in Atlanta.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by dj43:
When I saw Smith get up and start punching his fists together, I told my wife, "he didn't catch it. Shanahan should challenge the catch." It just seemed such an obvious signal that he should have challenged on that basis alone, without needing to see the replays. (hindsight)

I'd agree he should have challenged, even without seeing a good replay given the impact of the play. That said it wasn't just Kyle's mistake. In the end it's still a bad call that the league's expedited review system failed to catch. To me, that's the greater failure.

the " clapping " was a common sense that Kyle should have taken as a sign that it was not a catch.. .

he shoulda called a TO event if it was a waste.. WR Smith was inside the 10 yard line so it was worth calling the TO ... had that been reversed, we could have set the tone w/a good drive..

It's a running clock. He catches at 10:20 on game clock. The snap is at 10 flat. He had less than 20 seconds.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by dj43:
When I saw Smith get up and start punching his fists together, I told my wife, "he didn't catch it. Shanahan should challenge the catch." It just seemed such an obvious signal that he should have challenged on that basis alone, without needing to see the replays. (hindsight)

I'd agree he should have challenged, even without seeing a good replay given the impact of the play. That said it wasn't just Kyle's mistake. In the end it's still a bad call that the league's expedited review system failed to catch. To me, that's the greater failure.

the " clapping " was a common sense that Kyle should have taken as a sign that it was not a catch.. .

he shoulda called a TO event if it was a waste.. WR Smith was inside the 10 yard line so it was worth calling the TO ... had that been reversed, we could have set the tone w/a good drive..

It's a running clock. He catches at 10:20 on game clock. The snap is at 10 flat. He had less than 20 seconds.

DID you not see him " clapping " ?? that was some kinda sign to HURRY UP I DID NOT CATCH IT..

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
What if we win another 13 games and make it to another NFCCG?

I want a super bowl win...ITS SUPER BOWL OR BUST.
Dont care if you win 13 games in a row and come up short in the NFCCG...YOU DIDNT WIN THE BIG PRIZE

So all feelings and no logic?

Say we go 13-4 in the regular season in 2023 and win 2 playoff games and lose in the NFCCG again just like this past season. That would earn him a 42-18 record or a 70% win percentage over a 3 year span. That would make him the coach with the highest win% in the NFC over that same time span. No way you get rid of him after another 76% winning season and deep playoff run.

Now lets put logic aside and go back to feelings. We are simply spectators. We have absolutely no control over wins and losses. We don't put in any of the work or make any of the sacrifices that these coaches make in order to do their jobs at a high level. You don't think Kyle Shanahan wants to win a SB more than any 49er fan out there? The dude puts his heart, soul and life into this game. Give the f**king guy a break. Better yet, give him your f**king support. Faithful, my ass.

Of course, head coaches work hard. Shanahan works hard and has a team that is singular in its team-first attitude. As a head coach, Shanahan has gotten to the NFC title game the last two years, one SB appearance, and a 6-3 playoff record. But Kyle may be like Mariucci. Mariucci was also great at getting the Niners into the playoffs if not far into the playoffs. It may be that 49ers' fans should enjoy the high percentage of victories and be ready for playoff losses.

Bill Walsh blamed himself for a loss to the Chicago Bears during the 1988 regular season. Once admitting he'd been too conservative, he changed his game plan and beat the Bears handily in the NFC title game at below freezing game in Chicago. I think this lack of admitting his mistakes is why Kyle holds himself back from achieving more success in the playoffs. He believes he wasn't mistaken in not calling throwing the red flag on the Eagles 4th down catch on their first TD drive, weighing a lost timeout vs. the chances of shutting down the Eagles' drive and setting a tone for the rest of the game. He believes he wasn't mistaken in not investing more in the offensive line that led to the end-of-season injuries to three QBs plus one with a concussion. Considering all that, Kyle did a great job.

Certainly, Kyle gets a lot of things right. Victories are proof of that. But he may not have that top gear to take the top prize.

Kyle admitted to being wrong on not looking at Mahommes. As far as the flag, yeah, he should've thrown it but my question is, what did he see from his vantage point? Either way, challenge flag or no, we were losing that game once Brock was out.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by dj43:
When I saw Smith get up and start punching his fists together, I told my wife, "he didn't catch it. Shanahan should challenge the catch." It just seemed such an obvious signal that he should have challenged on that basis alone, without needing to see the replays. (hindsight)

I'd agree he should have challenged, even without seeing a good replay given the impact of the play. That said it wasn't just Kyle's mistake. In the end it's still a bad call that the league's expedited review system failed to catch. To me, that's the greater failure.

the " clapping " was a common sense that Kyle should have taken as a sign that it was not a catch.. .

he shoulda called a TO event if it was a waste.. WR Smith was inside the 10 yard line so it was worth calling the TO ... had that been reversed, we could have set the tone w/a good drive..

It's a running clock. He catches at 10:20 on game clock. The snap is at 10 flat. He had less than 20 seconds.

DID you not see him " clapping " ?? that was some kinda sign to HURRY UP I DID NOT CATCH IT..

Again less than 20 secs. Less than. And that's from catch to snap. Tapping the knuckles it took him some seconds to get off the ground and start doing it. Again Philly they practiced and were ready for this moment, gotta give em credit and move on.

On that D Smith catch / non-catch, I think Philly did that well, more than KS got it wrong. No clear look and PHI played it perfect. Insane time from catch to snap considering it was a down field shot play.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
What if we win another 13 games and make it to another NFCCG?

I want a super bowl win...ITS SUPER BOWL OR BUST.
Dont care if you win 13 games in a row and come up short in the NFCCG...YOU DIDNT WIN THE BIG PRIZE

So all feelings and no logic?

Say we go 13-4 in the regular season in 2023 and win 2 playoff games and lose in the NFCCG again just like this past season. That would earn him a 42-18 record or a 70% win percentage over a 3 year span. That would make him the coach with the highest win% in the NFC over that same time span. No way you get rid of him after another 76% winning season and deep playoff run.

Now lets put logic aside and go back to feelings. We are simply spectators. We have absolutely no control over wins and losses. We don't put in any of the work or make any of the sacrifices that these coaches make in order to do their jobs at a high level. You don't think Kyle Shanahan wants to win a SB more than any 49er fan out there? The dude puts his heart, soul and life into this game. Give the f**king guy a break. Better yet, give him your f**king support. Faithful, my ass.

Of course, head coaches work hard. Shanahan works hard and has a team that is singular in its team-first attitude. As a head coach, Shanahan has gotten to the NFC title game the last two years, one SB appearance, and a 6-3 playoff record. But Kyle may be like Mariucci. Mariucci was also great at getting the Niners into the playoffs if not far into the playoffs. It may be that 49ers' fans should enjoy the high percentage of victories and be ready for playoff losses.

Bill Walsh blamed himself for a loss to the Chicago Bears during the 1988 regular season. Once admitting he'd been too conservative, he changed his game plan and beat the Bears handily in the NFC title game at below freezing game in Chicago. I think this lack of admitting his mistakes is why Kyle holds himself back from achieving more success in the playoffs. He believes he wasn't mistaken in not calling throwing the red flag on the Eagles 4th down catch on their first TD drive, weighing a lost timeout vs. the chances of shutting down the Eagles' drive and setting a tone for the rest of the game. He believes he wasn't mistaken in not investing more in the offensive line that led to the end-of-season injuries to three QBs plus one with a concussion. Considering all that, Kyle did a great job.

Certainly, Kyle gets a lot of things right. Victories are proof of that. But he may not have that top gear to take the top prize.

Kyle admitted to being wrong on not looking at Mahommes. As far as the flag, yeah, he should've thrown it but my question is, what did he see from his vantage point? Either way, challenge flag or no, we were losing that game once Brock was out.

Were the first 10 plays or however many scripted? If so, then this is absolutely true. If not I guess one could argue causality. Maybe if that play didn't happen Kyle calls the plays differently, but that's a HUGE stretch.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Gotta win at least one ring before I start calling him that

Lol.. fact

Originally posted by thl408:
SATAN

No comment

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I'd agree he should have challenged, even without seeing a good replay given the impact of the play. That said it wasn't just Kyle's mistake. In the end it's still a bad call that the league's expedited review system failed to catch. To me, that's the greater failure.

When the wr got up and started that fist signal,any good head coach worth his salt would have said " hmmm that's odd.. LET ME CHALLENGE THAT

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by dj43:
When I saw Smith get up and start punching his fists together, I told my wife, "he didn't catch it. Shanahan should challenge the catch." It just seemed such an obvious signal that he should have challenged on that basis alone, without needing to see the replays. (hindsight)

I'd agree he should have challenged, even without seeing a good replay given the impact of the play. That said it wasn't just Kyle's mistake. In the end it's still a bad call that the league's expedited review system failed to catch. To me, that's the greater failure.

the " clapping " was a common sense that Kyle should have taken as a sign that it was not a catch.. .

he shoulda called a TO event if it was a waste.. WR Smith was inside the 10 yard line so it was worth calling the TO ... had that been reversed, we could have set the tone w/a good drive..

It's a running clock. He catches at 10:20 on game clock. The snap is at 10 flat. He had less than 20 seconds.

DID you not see him " clapping " ?? that was some kinda sign to HURRY UP I DID NOT CATCH IT..

I agree that Kyle should have thrown a flag to at least challenge the play, but In the end, It had no affect on the outcome of the game anyway. We had little to zero chance of winning that game once our QB went down.

It was a frustrating way for season to come to end, knowing we couldn't fight back because we ran out of QBs In the end, but at least we made It that far to begin with, considering the Injuries we had to deal with regarding the QB position.

Originally posted by dmax:
When the wr got up and started that fist signal,any good head coach worth his salt would have said " hmmm that's odd.. LET ME CHALLENGE THAT

You assume Kyle can see the WR do that from where he was on the sideline. He more than likely couldn't considering where he was on the sideline and where the catch was made. So, again, he has to rely on other people. Can't rely on the defensive players because they ALWAYS say the WR didn't make the catch. Then Kyle sees one replay from an angle that seems like he made the catch. Then his time was up. It sucks, but this is the very reason the league is trying to implement self-reviews in these circumstances, because it's incredibly difficult on the HC to make a viable determination in such a limited time without a lot of information. The league failed at that here, too.

I think a lot of posters would be happy if we go 12-5, 13-4 every year but never win a Superbowl.

That's where I feel we are. We don't make enough splash one year signings to have overwhelming talent to overcome the coaching deficiencies needed to win.

Unless purdy is Joe/Tom 2 I don't believe shanahan can win 4 games in a row and call them all correctly against 4 teams with equal or more talent and as good or better coaching.