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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by dmax:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
I think a lot of posters would be happy if we go 12-5, 13-4 every year but never win a Superbowl.

That's where I feel we are. We don't make enough splash one year signings to have overwhelming talent to overcome the coaching deficiencies needed to win.

Unless purdy is Joe/Tom 2 I don't believe shanahan can win 4 games in a row and call them all correctly against 4 teams with equal or more talent and as good or better coaching.

Oh more than a few...which is a loser mentality

Same guys would have stuck with Marvin lewis. " he gets us to the playoffs every year!!!"

Marvin Lewis is 0-7 in the playoffs.

Kyle is 6-3 in the playoffs.
Originally posted by KiwiM3:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by dmax:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
I think a lot of posters would be happy if we go 12-5, 13-4 every year but never win a Superbowl.

That's where I feel we are. We don't make enough splash one year signings to have overwhelming talent to overcome the coaching deficiencies needed to win.

Unless purdy is Joe/Tom 2 I don't believe shanahan can win 4 games in a row and call them all correctly against 4 teams with equal or more talent and as good or better coaching.

Oh more than a few...which is a loser mentality

Same guys would have stuck with Marvin lewis. " he gets us to the playoffs every year!!!"

Marvin Lewis is 0-7 in the playoffs.

Kyle is 6-3 in the playoffs.

I don't care. Kyle is 0-6 in Superbowl attempts.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I don't care. Kyle is 0-6 in Superbowl attempts.

So was Bill Belichick in his first 6 seasons
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I'm not directing this at anyone specific, I'm just saying... there's too many extremely well-respected players and coaches who call Kyle a genius, mastermind, wizard, and future HOF coach for me to take the average fan's take as anything remotely credible.

I've been a football nerd my whole life, and while I'm not employed by the NFL or a team, I see what these football professionals see. If you know football, I don't understand why some others can't see the same thing. No one is saying Kyle never ever makes a mistake or is infallible. Like, duh, he's human. But come on. We have people legit going to the extreme of saying we should fire him. Downright asinine.

I guess the average fan refuses to give any credence to Kyle's current and former players and coaches who were actually with him every day and/or study his stuff because they have to face him.

A lot of it is just Jimmy homerism (anything to absolve him of blame), and then it's kind of a habit now.
31 Coaches should be fired every year according to some on here.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by KiwiM3:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by dmax:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
I think a lot of posters would be happy if we go 12-5, 13-4 every year but never win a Superbowl.

That's where I feel we are. We don't make enough splash one year signings to have overwhelming talent to overcome the coaching deficiencies needed to win.

Unless purdy is Joe/Tom 2 I don't believe shanahan can win 4 games in a row and call them all correctly against 4 teams with equal or more talent and as good or better coaching.

Oh more than a few...which is a loser mentality

Same guys would have stuck with Marvin lewis. " he gets us to the playoffs every year!!!"

Marvin Lewis is 0-7 in the playoffs.

Kyle is 6-3 in the playoffs.

I don't care. Kyle is 0-6 in Superbowl attempts.

And Reid was 0-20 at one point, Tomlin is 1-15, Payton is 1-15… trying to make a HC bad because they haven't won a Super Bowl is one of the dumbest, childish, and most uneducated hills to die on.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
And Reid was 0-20 at one point, Tomlin is 1-15, Payton is 1-15… trying to make a HC bad because they haven't won a Super Bowl is one of the dumbest, childish, and most uneducated hills to die on.

Same could be said for QB too, no? If the coach doesn't have to win one but get you close. The QB should be afforded the same latitude one would think.
Originally posted by DrEll:
We can name a handful of teams that have won MULTIPLE Superbowls since the last time we did. So it may be hard win one, but not as hard as some of you make it seem. Why don't you just go down the list starting with Denver in 98-99 then see how many teams won multiple times in that time span. You'll be surprised that it's quite a few. Just off the top of my head….Ravens, Patriots, Giants, Bucs, Broncos, Rams, Steelers, Chiefs, Packers. There might be some more but that's close to a third of the league.

too many excuses for this fan base…

😂 so in one breath it's Kyle's fault…your "evidence" to back that up is other teams with DIFFERENT head coaches won more than once. Do you see how stupid that is?

only coaches on that list to win two are Reid (after 20+ yrs of NOT winning it all), Tom Coughlin and the worlds luckiest catch (which had zero to do with coaching), and Bill with the GOAT (who hasn't won s**t since Tommy left).

what a weak ass rebuttal…do everyone a favor and go be a bronco or giants fan, you know because they've won more than one SB
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
And Reid was 0-20 at one point, Tomlin is 1-15, Payton is 1-15… trying to make a HC bad because they haven't won a Super Bowl is one of the dumbest, childish, and most uneducated hills to die on.

Same could be said for QB too, no? If the coach doesn't have to win one but get you close. The QB should be afforded the same latitude one would think.

Whataboutisms?

No you can't say the same thing. Not when you have to pay that QB $100M + and he's not good enough to be at the level as the guys that are consistently in the playoffs. Also at what point are you gonna stop betting on a horse that can never finish a race? Dude can't stay healthy and he was due for a new deal.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Feb 15, 2023 at 4:53 AM ]
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
And Reid was 0-20 at one point, Tomlin is 1-15, Payton is 1-15… trying to make a HC bad because they haven't won a Super Bowl is one of the dumbest, childish, and most uneducated hills to die on.

Same could be said for QB too, no? If the coach doesn't have to win one but get you close. The QB should be afforded the same latitude one would think.

Hard to win with mediocrity at QB or when the QBs get injured.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Hard to win with mediocrity at QB or when the QBs get injured.

Jimmy is fine, he isn't elite (can't stay on the field) and the way the league is now you need that guy. Maybe you can squeak out a SB win, margin of error is vastly smaller.

I don't think objective fans/NFL executives are gonna pick Jimmy over Shanahan.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Feb 15, 2023 at 4:53 AM ]
Originally posted by random49er:
Who should the fan base hire after firing Kyle?

There's never a legit answer to this…before Payton got hired one or two people said him. He hasn't won s**t in over a decade (with Brees). People would be screaming to have him fired years ago.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Feb 15, 2023 at 5:08 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
And Reid was 0-20 at one point, Tomlin is 1-15, Payton is 1-15… trying to make a HC bad because they haven't won a Super Bowl is one of the dumbest, childish, and most uneducated hills to die on.

Payton had 16 years with a HOF QB and the only time he won a SB is when the league grabbed his team by the hand in the playoffs and gave them a push so they could run endless stories about perseverance after New Orleans got flooded over in Katrina.

Kyle has as many conference championship appearances as the Saints franchise in its entire history and some of the same people bashing Kyle wanted him fired and replaced by that guy.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
And Reid was 0-20 at one point, Tomlin is 1-15, Payton is 1-15… trying to make a HC bad because they haven't won a Super Bowl is one of the dumbest, childish, and most uneducated hills to die on.

Payton had 16 years with a HOF QB and the only time he won a SB is when the league grabbed his team by the hand in the playoffs and gave them a push so they could run endless stories about perseverance after New Orleans got flooded over in Katrina.

Kyle has as many conference championship appearances as the Saints franchise in its entire history and some of the same people bashing Kyle wanted him fired and replaced by that guy.

Dude it's unreal. Same stuff with Tomlin, he was handed a Super Bowl winning roster.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Feb 15, 2023 at 5:34 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Jimmy is fine, he isn't elite (can't stay on the field) and the way the league is now you need that guy. Maybe you can squeak out a SB win, margin of error is vastly smaller.

I don't think objective fans/NFL executives are gonna pick Jimmy over Shanahan.

Hell no they aren't going to pick Jimmy over Shanny. Shanny is top 5 coach in the league. Well top 5 signal caller in the league at the very least. That said, I still don't understand how you can hold a QB to the standard of needing to win a SB. Yet, the HC isn't held to the same standard. .
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