49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Jimmy is fine, he isn't elite (can't stay on the field) and the way the league is now you need that guy. Maybe you can squeak out a SB win, margin of error is vastly smaller.

I don't think objective fans/NFL executives are gonna pick Jimmy over Shanahan.

Hell no they aren't going to pick Jimmy over Shanny. Shanny is top 5 coach in the league. Well top 5 signal caller in the league at the very least. That said, I still don't understand how you can hold a QB to the standard of needing to win a SB. Yet, the HC isn't held to the same standard. .

I don't think it has anything to do with Jimmy not winning a SB. Its all about his playoff performances combined with his inability to stay healthy.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I don't think it has anything to do with Jimmy not winning a SB. Its all about his playoff performances combined with his inability to stay healthy.

His health I get. That was the initial reason for wanting to move on. Somehow though it went from availability to non ability just to prop up the prospects that posters wanted to bring in. I was ready to move on from Jimmy last year too. But say what you want when the guy is out there he wins.

Just funny to me the different standards But whatevs.

Originally posted by krizay:
Hell no they aren't going to pick Jimmy over Shanny. Shanny is top 5 coach in the league. Well top 5 signal caller in the league at the very least. That said, I still don't understand how you can hold a QB to the standard of needing to win a SB. Yet, the HC isn't held to the same standard. .

I already explained it. Of course it's all just opinions.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I don't think it has anything to do with Jimmy not winning a SB. Its all about his playoff performances combined with his inability to stay healthy.

His health I get. That was the initial reason for wanting to move on. Somehow though it went from availability to non ability just to prop up the prospects that posters wanted to bring in. I was ready to move on from Jimmy last year too. But say what you want when the guy is out there he wins.

Just funny to me the different standards But whatevs.

So you think that only 4 TD's and 6 INT's with a passer rating of 74.1 in 6 playoff games is acceptable for a $100+ million QB?

Originally posted by YACBros85:
So you think that only 4 TD's and 6 INT's with a passer rating of 74.1 in 6 playoff games is acceptable for a $100+ million QB?

No, no it's not. I mean we all watch the games, there's some nuance to all of this. We're talking about a coach vs a player.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I don't think it has anything to do with Jimmy not winning a SB. Its all about his playoff performances combined with his inability to stay healthy.

His health I get. That was the initial reason for wanting to move on. Somehow though it went from availability to non ability just to prop up the prospects that posters wanted to bring in. I was ready to move on from Jimmy last year too. But say what you want when the guy is out there he wins.

Just funny to me the different standards But whatevs.

So you think that only 4 TD's and 6 INT's with a passer rating of 74.1 in 6 playoff games is acceptable for a $100+ million QB?

You forgot to add a 4-2 record in the playoffs.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I don't think it has anything to do with Jimmy not winning a SB. Its all about his playoff performances combined with his inability to stay healthy.

His health I get. That was the initial reason for wanting to move on. Somehow though it went from availability to non ability just to prop up the prospects that posters wanted to bring in. I was ready to move on from Jimmy last year too. But say what you want when the guy is out there he wins.

Just funny to me the different standards But whatevs.

So you think that only 4 TD's and 6 INT's with a passer rating of 74.1 in 6 playoff games is acceptable for a $100+ million QB?

You forgot to add a 4-2 record in the playoffs.

With those #s, 95% of the credit for that record goes to the rest of the team, defense in particular. Perfect example of a team winning despite their QB.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
And Reid was 0-20 at one point, Tomlin is 1-15, Payton is 1-15… trying to make a HC bad because they haven't won a Super Bowl is one of the dumbest, childish, and most uneducated hills to die on.

Same could be said for QB too, no? If the coach doesn't have to win one but get you close. The QB should be afforded the same latitude one would think.

Hard to win with mediocrity at QB or when the QBs get injured.

This is so full of crap. Niners win with Jimmy.

I've been told over and over again that the best we can hope for in this day of salary cap is making the playoffs. Then it's all about luck and anyone can win the superbowl at that point, and that we should be thankful we are getting in year in and year out.

But when it comes to Jimmy he needs to be great in the playoffs to get us over the hump. Well which one is it? Why does Jimmy need to be a hall of fame talent, but shanny just needs to take us to the playoffs. That is such a flaky take. The narrative changes when we talk about Shanahan and Jimmy. The very definition of double standard

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I don't think it has anything to do with Jimmy not winning a SB. Its all about his playoff performances combined with his inability to stay healthy.

His health I get. That was the initial reason for wanting to move on. Somehow though it went from availability to non ability just to prop up the prospects that posters wanted to bring in. I was ready to move on from Jimmy last year too. But say what you want when the guy is out there he wins.

Just funny to me the different standards But whatevs.

So you think that only 4 TD's and 6 INT's with a passer rating of 74.1 in 6 playoff games is acceptable for a $100+ million QB?

You forgot to add a 4-2 record in the playoffs.

With those #s, 95% of the credit for that record goes to the rest of the team, defense in particular. Perfect example of a team winning despite their QB.

BUT yet when when jimmy and Brock fo down they get crushed. DESPITE their qb my ass.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
And Reid was 0-20 at one point, Tomlin is 1-15, Payton is 1-15… trying to make a HC bad because they haven't won a Super Bowl is one of the dumbest, childish, and most uneducated hills to die on.

Same could be said for QB too, no? If the coach doesn't have to win one but get you close. The QB should be afforded the same latitude one would think.

Hard to win with mediocrity at QB or when the QBs get injured.

This is so full of crap. Niners win with Jimmy.

Exactly. We've been winning with mediocrity at the QB position for a while now. Throw Alex and Kap into that scenario as well. Just won't be able to win it all.

In hockey there's something called "shots on goal." The more shots you get on goal the higher the likelihood you will score. It's the same thing with NFL playoffs, especially conference championships. A team increases it's likelihood of getting to the Superbowl, and winning it, with more conference championship appearances.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I don't think it has anything to do with Jimmy not winning a SB. Its all about his playoff performances combined with his inability to stay healthy.

His health I get. That was the initial reason for wanting to move on. Somehow though it went from availability to non ability just to prop up the prospects that posters wanted to bring in. I was ready to move on from Jimmy last year too. But say what you want when the guy is out there he wins.

Just funny to me the different standards But whatevs.

So you think that only 4 TD's and 6 INT's with a passer rating of 74.1 in 6 playoff games is acceptable for a $100+ million QB?

You forgot to add a 4-2 record in the playoffs.

With those #s, 95% of the credit for that record goes to the rest of the team, defense in particular. Perfect example of a team winning despite their QB.

BUT yet when when jimmy and Brock fo down they get crushed. DESPITE their qb my ass.

OK, you got me. Jimmy is better than absolutely no quarterback at all, lol.

Didn't they score their only touchdown of that game after Purdy went down?

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I don't think it has anything to do with Jimmy not winning a SB. Its all about his playoff performances combined with his inability to stay healthy.

His health I get. That was the initial reason for wanting to move on. Somehow though it went from availability to non ability just to prop up the prospects that posters wanted to bring in. I was ready to move on from Jimmy last year too. But say what you want when the guy is out there he wins.

Just funny to me the different standards But whatevs.

So you think that only 4 TD's and 6 INT's with a passer rating of 74.1 in 6 playoff games is acceptable for a $100+ million QB?

You forgot to add a 4-2 record in the playoffs.

With those #s, 95% of the credit for that record goes to the rest of the team, defense in particular. Perfect example of a team winning despite their QB.

Exactly! In the 2021 playoffs, the defense gave up an average of 15.7 ppg against DAL (31.2 ppg), GB (26.5 ppg) and LAR (27.1 ppg).

Originally posted by jcs:
You forgot to add a 4-2 record in the playoffs.

Shows exactly how great Kyle is. Can win despite his Qb sh****ng the bed.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I don't think it has anything to do with Jimmy not winning a SB. Its all about his playoff performances combined with his inability to stay healthy.

His health I get. That was the initial reason for wanting to move on. Somehow though it went from availability to non ability just to prop up the prospects that posters wanted to bring in. I was ready to move on from Jimmy last year too. But say what you want when the guy is out there he wins.

Just funny to me the different standards But whatevs.

So you think that only 4 TD's and 6 INT's with a passer rating of 74.1 in 6 playoff games is acceptable for a $100+ million QB?

You forgot to add a 4-2 record in the playoffs.

With those #s, 95% of the credit for that record goes to the rest of the team, defense in particular. Perfect example of a team winning despite their QB.

BUT yet when when jimmy and Brock fo down they get crushed. DESPITE their qb my ass.

OK, you got me. Jimmy is better than absolutely no quarterback at all, lol.

Didn't they score their only touchdown of that game after Purdy went down?

When someone says DEPITE of, it means without affect. If they really were winning despite of Jimmy they wouldn't have lost 31-7. So no, this team isn't winning games DESPITE Jimmy.