49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

The #49ers are hiring Klint Kubiak to a top role on Kyle Shanahan's offensive staff, replacing Bobby Slowik, per sources.

Kubiak, the former #Vikings OC and #Broncos QB coach, steps into a spot that has been a promotion factory, with Slowik most recently becoming Houston's OC. pic.twitter.com/kXDodotQwj

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) February 16, 2023

Gotta collect those Kubiak's like Pokemon.





Only one left to go and he's a scout for Dallas.

A "promotion factory." Love it.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by krizay:
To me it appears when teams are stopping the run. They don't go for all that motion crap. They don't adjust their defense at all. Those are the times I wish he would just like up and play.

Juice essentially said same thing I think it was during the Dallas play off game. When he and the RBs basically asked him to quit the motions and run right at them.

So.....

Yeah it should depend on opponent.

Analytics showed that Dallas was one of the best, if not the best against presnap motions. They were too disciplined for that to be effective. Juice pointed that out to Kyle and they started rolling.

This is very true as you get deeper in the playoffs. The defenses get more disciplined and more talented. Play fakes and the assorted misdirection plays don't work as well the deeper you go in the playoffs.

At that point your teams execution is key as well as the sheer talent your team becomes important. One possible adjustment would be to not adjust or do a lot of motions. Basically - change up and just play smash mouth for a quarter or two, then change up again later - back to motions and fakes.

In other words, as much as Kyle likes to be balanced and unpredictable in the playoffs, maybe the secret is to just line up and go toe to toe - establish that run dominance, and then go from there.

That is not true. It was reported that the Eagles defense were bad against pre snap motion and it ended up making a huge impact in the SB. Bay2Bay is correct in that it is opponent dependent.

Once you get to the final four, these are talented teams. They (example Eagles) May be bad at pre-snap motions, but they won 14 games for a reason. My point is simply that sometimes Kyle just has to (as Krizay said) just line up and play smash mouth football, and forget the fancy shmancy motion eye-candy stuff once he gets to a certain level. That's where the big powerful OLines and DLines come into play. Most defensive Teams are too good to get fooled often once you are deep in the playoffs.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by krizay:
To me it appears when teams are stopping the run. They don't go for all that motion crap. They don't adjust their defense at all. Those are the times I wish he would just like up and play.

Juice essentially said same thing I think it was during the Dallas play off game. When he and the RBs basically asked him to quit the motions and run right at them.

So.....

Yeah it should depend on opponent.

Analytics showed that Dallas was one of the best, if not the best against presnap motions. They were too disciplined for that to be effective. Juice pointed that out to Kyle and they started rolling.

This is very true as you get deeper in the playoffs. The defenses get more disciplined and more talented. Play fakes and the assorted misdirection plays don't work as well the deeper you go in the playoffs.

At that point your teams execution is key as well as the sheer talent your team becomes important. One possible adjustment would be to not adjust or do a lot of motions. Basically - change up and just play smash mouth for a quarter or two, then change up again later - back to motions and fakes.

In other words, as much as Kyle likes to be balanced and unpredictable in the playoffs, maybe the secret is to just line up and go toe to toe - establish that run dominance, and then go from there.

That is not true. It was reported that the Eagles defense were bad against pre snap motion and it ended up making a huge impact in the SB. Bay2Bay is correct in that it is opponent dependent.

Once you get to the final four, these are talented teams. They (example Eagles) May be bad at pre-snap motions, but they won 14 games for a reason. My point is simply that sometimes Kyle just has to (as Krizay said) just line up and play smash mouth football, and forget the fancy shmancy motion eye-candy stuff once he gets to a certain level. That's where the big powerful OLines and DLines come into play. Most defensive Teams are too good to get fooled often once you are deep in the playoffs.

Our motions give us information and helps with blocking angles. It's not f**king fancy it's strategy.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by krizay:
To me it appears when teams are stopping the run. They don't go for all that motion crap. They don't adjust their defense at all. Those are the times I wish he would just like up and play.

Juice essentially said same thing I think it was during the Dallas play off game. When he and the RBs basically asked him to quit the motions and run right at them.

So.....

Yeah it should depend on opponent.

Analytics showed that Dallas was one of the best, if not the best against presnap motions. They were too disciplined for that to be effective. Juice pointed that out to Kyle and they started rolling.

This is very true as you get deeper in the playoffs. The defenses get more disciplined and more talented. Play fakes and the assorted misdirection plays don't work as well the deeper you go in the playoffs.

At that point your teams execution is key as well as the sheer talent your team becomes important. One possible adjustment would be to not adjust or do a lot of motions. Basically - change up and just play smash mouth for a quarter or two, then change up again later - back to motions and fakes.

In other words, as much as Kyle likes to be balanced and unpredictable in the playoffs, maybe the secret is to just line up and go toe to toe - establish that run dominance, and then go from there.

That is not true. It was reported that the Eagles defense were bad against pre snap motion and it ended up making a huge impact in the SB. Bay2Bay is correct in that it is opponent dependent.

Once you get to the final four, these are talented teams. They (example Eagles) May be bad at pre-snap motions, but they won 14 games for a reason. My point is simply that sometimes Kyle just has to (as Krizay said) just line up and play smash mouth football, and forget the fancy shmancy motion eye-candy stuff once he gets to a certain level. That's where the big powerful OLines and DLines come into play. Most defensive Teams are too good to get fooled often once you are deep in the playoffs.

Our motions give us information and helps with blocking angles. It's not f**king fancy it's strategy.

How was the blocking angle on that Purdy play action pass?

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by krizay:
To me it appears when teams are stopping the run. They don't go for all that motion crap. They don't adjust their defense at all. Those are the times I wish he would just like up and play.

Juice essentially said same thing I think it was during the Dallas play off game. When he and the RBs basically asked him to quit the motions and run right at them.

So.....

Yeah it should depend on opponent.

Analytics showed that Dallas was one of the best, if not the best against presnap motions. They were too disciplined for that to be effective. Juice pointed that out to Kyle and they started rolling.

This is very true as you get deeper in the playoffs. The defenses get more disciplined and more talented. Play fakes and the assorted misdirection plays don't work as well the deeper you go in the playoffs.

At that point your teams execution is key as well as the sheer talent your team becomes important. One possible adjustment would be to not adjust or do a lot of motions. Basically - change up and just play smash mouth for a quarter or two, then change up again later - back to motions and fakes.

In other words, as much as Kyle likes to be balanced and unpredictable in the playoffs, maybe the secret is to just line up and go toe to toe - establish that run dominance, and then go from there.

That is not true. It was reported that the Eagles defense were bad against pre snap motion and it ended up making a huge impact in the SB. Bay2Bay is correct in that it is opponent dependent.

Once you get to the final four, these are talented teams. They (example Eagles) May be bad at pre-snap motions, but they won 14 games for a reason. My point is simply that sometimes Kyle just has to (as Krizay said) just line up and play smash mouth football, and forget the fancy shmancy motion eye-candy stuff once he gets to a certain level. That's where the big powerful OLines and DLines come into play. Most defensive Teams are too good to get fooled often once you are deep in the playoffs.

Our motions give us information and helps with blocking angles. It's not f**king fancy it's strategy.

How was the blocking angle on that Purdy play action pass?

What? The short motion with Deebo on that play. You understand this is a dumb post right?

Originally posted by DrEll:
Lol wut. Horrible analogy by Joe. How many shots on goal did the 90s Bills have ? Or the 00s Eagles have ? Nothing to show for some pretty decent rosters.

They had more shots than the 70s-80s and 00s Bills and the 80s-90s Eagles had.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by krizay:
To me it appears when teams are stopping the run. They don't go for all that motion crap. They don't adjust their defense at all. Those are the times I wish he would just like up and play.

Juice essentially said same thing I think it was during the Dallas play off game. When he and the RBs basically asked him to quit the motions and run right at them.

So.....

Yeah it should depend on opponent.

Analytics showed that Dallas was one of the best, if not the best against presnap motions. They were too disciplined for that to be effective. Juice pointed that out to Kyle and they started rolling.

This is very true as you get deeper in the playoffs. The defenses get more disciplined and more talented. Play fakes and the assorted misdirection plays don't work as well the deeper you go in the playoffs.

At that point your teams execution is key as well as the sheer talent your team becomes important. One possible adjustment would be to not adjust or do a lot of motions. Basically - change up and just play smash mouth for a quarter or two, then change up again later - back to motions and fakes.

In other words, as much as Kyle likes to be balanced and unpredictable in the playoffs, maybe the secret is to just line up and go toe to toe - establish that run dominance, and then go from there.

That is not true. It was reported that the Eagles defense were bad against pre snap motion and it ended up making a huge impact in the SB. Bay2Bay is correct in that it is opponent dependent.

Once you get to the final four, these are talented teams. They (example Eagles) May be bad at pre-snap motions, but they won 14 games for a reason. My point is simply that sometimes Kyle just has to (as Krizay said) just line up and play smash mouth football, and forget the fancy shmancy motion eye-candy stuff once he gets to a certain level. That's where the big powerful OLines and DLines come into play. Most defensive Teams are too good to get fooled often once you are deep in the playoffs.

Our motions give us information and helps with blocking angles. It's not f**king fancy it's strategy.

How was the blocking angle on that Purdy play action pass?

What? The short motion with Deebo on that play. You understand this is a dumb post right?

I'm not gonna pretend that 'm thl/Jonny when it comes to Xs and Os, but holy s**t, so many people here post their opinions like it's fact and are completely clueless...At least know a bit of X's and O's before you make such bs statements.

Especially as 49er fans, it's like they completely forgot about Walsh and he also brought in a "fancy" offense for that time.

Plus Kyle's teams have always been very physical, his WRs block like FBs ffs. Ya absolutely a dumb post.

The idea that motion, which I'm not going to get into an elementary discussion on how it helps us, all of a sudden isn't helpful when we play good teams… just doesn't make sense, lol

Wow! I didn't know there's a lot of potentially outstanding coaches in this forum. Get your resume done and give it to Shanahan…who knows. No sarcasm intended, by the way. I am really impressed.

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Sadly you're totally right.

But you're not gonna get much agreement on this board. Hella dudes here in denial in order to cope with our current team blowing their 3rd chance in 6 years at a trophy.

its ok to be critical of your team making catastrophic team history changing mistakes. Doesn't make you any less of a fan guys.

Lot of people are in denial or just plain stupid

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Sadly you're totally right.

But you're not gonna get much agreement on this board. Hella dudes here in denial in order to cope with our current team blowing their 3rd chance in 6 years at a trophy.

its ok to be critical of your team making catastrophic team history changing mistakes. Doesn't make you any less of a fan guys.

Lot of people are in denial or just plain stupid

It's not a lot of people, just you two

Hey guys let's just change our entire scheme once we get deep in the playoffs. No more of that fancy motion stuff. Just line up and play smash mouth. Nvm the fact the offense was top 3 the last 7 weeks and your riding a huge win streak bc of it. Dust off Harbaughs playbook and let's go!!!!

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by krizay:
To me it appears when teams are stopping the run. They don't go for all that motion crap. They don't adjust their defense at all. Those are the times I wish he would just like up and play.

Juice essentially said same thing I think it was during the Dallas play off game. When he and the RBs basically asked him to quit the motions and run right at them.

So.....

Yeah it should depend on opponent.

Analytics showed that Dallas was one of the best, if not the best against presnap motions. They were too disciplined for that to be effective. Juice pointed that out to Kyle and they started rolling.

This is very true as you get deeper in the playoffs. The defenses get more disciplined and more talented. Play fakes and the assorted misdirection plays don't work as well the deeper you go in the playoffs.

At that point your teams execution is key as well as the sheer talent your team becomes important. One possible adjustment would be to not adjust or do a lot of motions. Basically - change up and just play smash mouth for a quarter or two, then change up again later - back to motions and fakes.

In other words, as much as Kyle likes to be balanced and unpredictable in the playoffs, maybe the secret is to just line up and go toe to toe - establish that run dominance, and then go from there.

That is not true. It was reported that the Eagles defense were bad against pre snap motion and it ended up making a huge impact in the SB. Bay2Bay is correct in that it is opponent dependent.

Once you get to the final four, these are talented teams. They (example Eagles) May be bad at pre-snap motions, but they won 14 games for a reason. My point is simply that sometimes Kyle just has to (as Krizay said) just line up and play smash mouth football, and forget the fancy shmancy motion eye-candy stuff once he gets to a certain level. That's where the big powerful OLines and DLines come into play. Most defensive Teams are too good to get fooled often once you are deep in the playoffs.

Your point was that the deeper you get into the playoffs, the more disciplined the defenses are and therefor the less vulnerable they are to play fakes and misdirection. The eagles were not disciplined in the area of play fakes and misdirection and it showed in the SB. We had the number 1 defense going into the playoffs with one of the best MLB's in the league and Philly's zone read and RPO's made him and our top rush defense look average in the redzone giving up 4 TD's on the ground. So again, like Bay2Bay said, it is oppenent dependent. That stuff works against a defense like the eagles but doesn't against a defense like the cowboys.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
It's not a lot of people, just you two

You and a few others take the prize bub

The Shanahan and Kubiak circle--- Kyle, Klint, Kline, and Klay... MmmK