49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Honestly, I don't know why some people post in this forum. One of the people I have on my blocked list has made over 92,000 posts and I don't think I have ever seen a single positive comment from him, on the team, on any particular player, in fact on any aspect of anything regarding the 49ers. I don't know how the economics of web sites works, maybe there is some financial incentive to keep people logging in or visiting the forum but it seems to me that the moderators would be doing everyone in the forum a favor by permanently banning some of the people who just make it a point to come in here and talk s**t and never have ANYTHING constructive, or interesting, or insightful to add to the discussion. It just drags down the conversation and makes the forum a less attractive place to visit or contribute to.

The 49ers keep coming close to victory with no ounce of gold to show for it in 2017. Sunday's 26-24 loss at Washington marks the fifth consecutive game San Francisco has lost by a field goal or less. The Niners are now 0-6 under rookie coach Kyle Shanahan this season after going 2-14 in Chip Kelly's final year.
But who cares?

San Francisco is winning in the big picture for later, even if nothing shows up in the standings now.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/san-francisco-49ers-john-lynch-kyle-shanahanalary-cap-space-nfl-draft-picks/12eeu6745ost61izipxto6bsld

This was supposed to a be major rebuild for general manager John Lynch and more of an audit season for Shanahan. It was hard to expect good results, as they had to overhaul their defense and figure out the best pieces on offense. In terms of improving the team for the short term and evaluating it for the long term, it has been a smashing success.
Last year's 49ers were lost. In addition to their lack of young talent and being too old in spots with their personnel, there was no plan or execution, especially at quarterback. This year, in contrast, it's clear Lynch and Shanahan are men with a plan and have been since they were hired together.
Given the way Deshaun Watson has been playing for the Texans and the fact that Mitchell Trubisky just sparked the Bears to victory, Lynch and Shanahan are bound to get more talk-show flack for passing on a first-round QB early and choosing to stockpile picks. Much of that decision was tied to the stopgap route with a struggling Brian Hoyer.

That short-sighted narrative should have changed a little after the team benched Hoyer in favor or rookie third-rounder C.J. Beathard, who nearly completed a huge second-half comeback against the Redskins and showed plenty of upside as the likely new starter going forward.
At the same time, the player the Niners did pick at No. 3 overall, defensive end Solomon Thomas, broke out with his best game as a pro pass rusher with his second career sack among seven tackles. Inside linebacker Reuben Foster, their second first-rounder, should return next week, as indicated by the team's decision to part ways with longtime stalwart NaVorro Bowman.
Shanahan also has delivered more sneaky gamesmanship regarding the use of his backs, veteran Carlos Hyde and undrafted rookie Matt Breida. It's very similar to his early days with the Falcons' duo of Devonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman in 2015, before he maximized their usage together.
Breida and rookie fifth-round tight end George Kittle have been key contributors. Rookie fifth-round wide receiver Trent Taylor has flashed as a return man and an ideal slot option. That's all behind Pierre Garcon, who was a terrific free-agent signing as their top wideout, picking up where he left off in a Shanahan offense from his Redskins past. Two more veteran additions, Alrdick Robinson and Marquise Goodwin, have helped as speed elements of late.

So the 49ers' record might be the same as that of the Browns, but don't confuse them for that clueless, winless mess in Cleveland. The Browns have seen limited results from their high-volume drafting and have been reluctant to let their most skilled kids play no matter the growing pains. (See the benching of DeShone Kizer for Kevin Hogan.) Lynch and Shanahan are doing things smarter than the similar "highly educated meets offensive minded" combination of Sashi Brown and Hue Jackson.
The 49ers want to win games as much as the Browns do, but San Francisco seems more content with the fact that it was not supposed to go anywhere this season. Lynch and Shanahan have been aggressive in making changes wherever necessary. They're not attached to sentimental favorites of either the 49ers' past (Bowman) or their own (Hoyer).

The NFL is a cold business, but the rational over the emotional wins in management and coaching, Bill Belichick being the ultimate case in point. Even he had to go through one bad re-assessment season before his current genius run with the Patriots.
There are signs everywhere that say the 49ers are improving. They are only a few field goals from being 5-1 instead of 0-6. Being better at winning close games is something that takes time for a mostly young team finding its way.

Once Lynch and Shanahan see the goods they've got and what they still need to get, they can go to work for 2018. According to OverTheCap.com, they are sitting on $62.6 million in salary cap space. After Kittle made tight end Vance McDonald expendable for a trade to Pittsburgh before the season, they're up to nine picks already in next year's draft, including five in the first three rounds.

If Beathard works out, they will have plenty of spending and drafting flexibility next year. If not, they can go harder after that franchise QB through either route.
Given how bad Hoyer was at times, Beathard will put them in position to win a few games. They've already stacked up well against teams that, on paper, should be much better. They've fought to the end in every game except the Week 1 loss to Carolina, meaning the players are buying into Shanahan and playing consistently hard for him.
From a distance, it might seem like the 49ers are going further downhill this season. In reality, they have jump-started their climb back to NFC relevance.

Just a Follower following quality work....

Originally posted by Follower:

Just a Follower following quality work....

Then ignore Grant Gohn, Lowell Cohn and Tim Kamakawi.....

I'll throw you a bone.... Matt Barrows is really good.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Well, it's pretty obvious what we need to work on:

#49ers had 7 dropped passes yesterday, giving them a total of 20 on the year. That is most in the NFL.

We're #1 in penalties, drops and missed tackles.

Yes, but watch that percentage drop when the receivers KNOW the ball will be there. Now it is all on them. And yes, TT did have a pair of drops, along with virtually everyone else, but once they know the ball will be there, they will be paying more attention...heck even "no see 'um Aldrick" . Watch the drops start to go down. With hoyer, you pretty well knew there was a 50/50 chance at best of the ball being there, and the guys just were not paying attention...or dialed in, if you will. They are not going to want to let their potential FR QB down. With hoyer, he was just marking time and the WRs and TEs played accordingly. Now it counts...in their minds...so they will start to drop less and less. Let's see if it works out that way.

Yesterday's drops were disgusting. NOT NFL material. Any of them.

Interesting even the D played better once CJ was brot in. Has to be something mental in knowing your REAL QB is back there. Worked on the D, it will work for WRs, TEs and RBs.

The defense plays better when the offense actually does something and gives them a chance to catch their breath.

Originally posted by Follower:

I'll throw you a bone.... Matt Barrows is really good.

The Matt's are really good.

the team made some small progress yesterday on offense but come on,. our defense is still wretched. maybe foster will help but nothing is helping this wretched secondary. we drop balls and make mistakes. now moral victories and all this talk about what our record SHOULD be is fine and dandy. but somewhere along the line the team has got to figure out to win games and not lose them. other wise they will be losers long after this fiasco of a year is over. may not matter to the fans if the team wins. but it does to the players. this whole its ok to lose cuz we are playing close is well.. nonsense . you have no wining culture. guys will want to leave and we will have to continue to over pay people to come here. and then the issue of trying to put people in the stands if your team goes 0-16. that is a whole other kettle of fish

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Follower:
I'll throw you a bone.... Matt Barrows is really good.

The Matt's are really good.

this guy is def a troll, probably a parking lot poster under a different screen name

Originally posted by cciowa:

the team made some small progress yesterday on offense but come on,. our defense is still wretched. maybe foster will help but nothing is helping this wretched secondary. we drop balls and make mistakes. now moral victories and all this talk about what our record SHOULD be is fine and dandy. but somewhere along the line the team has got to figure out to win games and not lose them. other wise they will be losers long after this fiasco of a year is over. may not matter to the fans if the team wins. but it does to the players. this whole its ok to lose cuz we are playing close is well.. nonsense . you have no wining culture. guys will want to leave and we will have to continue to over pay people to come here. and then the issue of trying to put people in the stands if your team goes 0-16. that is a whole other kettle of fish

I think if a healthy Foster plays yesterday then I think we would have won. Seeing it in person makes you realize how bad Coyle and Armstrong were yesterday. Coyle is really slow to react. Both linebackers were abused in coverage, especially the screen game. If Foster is in there then I doubt all those easy yardage screens would have been there. Foster is still a rookie and he's going to get beat as well but his instincts are already much better than Ray Ray and Coyle, especially Coyle. Coyle is a good special teamer but doesn't belong on the field as a starter.

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by FL9er:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

he's the best coach we've had since Harbaugh. regardless of record. that's a fact. and that's why he got a 6-year deal. LONG term process.

You guys really need to stop replying to Grant.

is Follower grant cohn?

Yes.

Jesus, anyone who is a naysayer is either Cohn or Kawakami?

LOL...no dude, he actually IS Grant.

no he isn't, lol.

Seems like doxxing is OK in NT as long as the person being doxxed is "negative".

NC is nothing more than a hardcore homer who sat in the Silver lining/positive thread all offseason with gumdrops and ice cream. so makes sense

Do you even read what I post? Check out the Saleh thread sometime...Roman...Harold...Armstead...Hoyer...etc.

But attack the posts, not the poster.

Reported.

j/k

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
All I know is that the ShanaLynch 9ers are more fun to watch than any 9er regime since Mooch... even with Harbs the offense was like watching paint dry and not nearly as entertaining as what we have now...

ARROW UP IMO

Everything is down. Ticket prices, viewership numbers, jersey sales. This is one of the worst Niner regimes so far. The fact that you think it beats out the magic of the Harbo era is cute.

Lol

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Kyle Shanahan on C.J. Beathard: "I think he gives us the best chance to win going forward. ... I was excited about how he played."




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Oh well let's just move forward.

Almost everyone was saying this would be a blow out and the dam would finally crack. All the new players, bowman gone, and bringing in a rookie qb when down 14-0 and we still could have won! This team will eventually click. Maybe not this season but next. The most inmportant thing is the young guys buying into the program and playing with effort. And so far no one can question they have. Patience!