49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
If its shannahan making the call then we are F'ed. Look at his track record so far. SI is already calling trey one of the top 10 worst busts. The 49ers need to fire his a$$ on principal alone. Get his arrogant a$$ outta here for the trey F up alone.

This post has big "I miss Jim Tomsula" energy.

Jim Tomsula, our headcoach at one time with the ALL-TIME BEST WIN percentage in our franchise's history?

whats not to miss?

Walsh. What a bum!

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
All these rumors of trading Lance and the drafting of Arnold, is Shanahan working in the laboratory mixing something up?

If its shannahan making the call then we are F'ed. Look at his track record so far. SI is already calling trey one of the top 10 worst busts. The 49ers need to fire his a$$ on principal alone. Get his arrogant a$$ outta here for the trey F up alone.

Lol

my fav moment of the 49er draft season.. you gotta love coach Shanny

Kyle Shanahan knows what you think Kyle Shanahan wants to do. The Niners have garnered a reputation for loading up on running backs in the middle rounds of the NFL draft, but the team threw a curveball with the selection of Michigan kicker Jake Moody at 99th overall on Friday. It's the highest we've seen a kicker go in the draft since the Bucs invested a second-round pick in Roberto Aguayo in 2016. That move ended in calamity for Tampa Bay, but Shanahan didn't sound worried about history repeating itself. "You gotta know how high we think of you, man," the coach said in a phone call to Moody. "We didn't take a running back; we spent a third-round pick on a kicker." Oh, Shanny!

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

wins by more than 1 score since 2021

18 - BUF
17
16
15 - SF
14 - KC, PHI, DAL
13 - CIN
12
11 - GB, NE
10 - LAR, ARI
9 - TB, NO, SEA
8 - CLE, MIA, TEN
7 - LAC, CAR, DEN, IND
6 - BAL, JAX, DET
5 - CHI, WAS, LV
4 - HOU, MIN
3 - PIT, NYJ
2 - NYG, ATL

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) May 1, 2023

A welcome change from the previous good regime and their tendency to never score enough to put games away.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

wins by more than 1 score since 2021

18 - BUF
17
16
15 - SF
14 - KC, PHI, DAL
13 - CIN
12
11 - GB, NE
10 - LAR, ARI
9 - TB, NO, SEA
8 - CLE, MIA, TEN
7 - LAC, CAR, DEN, IND
6 - BAL, JAX, DET
5 - CHI, WAS, LV
4 - HOU, MIN
3 - PIT, NYJ
2 - NYG, ATL

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) May 1, 2023

I guess we didn't need a PK in the 3rd.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

wins by more than 1 score since 2021

18 - BUF
17
16
15 - SF
14 - KC, PHI, DAL
13 - CIN
12
11 - GB, NE
10 - LAR, ARI
9 - TB, NO, SEA
8 - CLE, MIA, TEN
7 - LAC, CAR, DEN, IND
6 - BAL, JAX, DET
5 - CHI, WAS, LV
4 - HOU, MIN
3 - PIT, NYJ
2 - NYG, ATL

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) May 1, 2023

I guess we didn't need a PK in the 3rd.

Brock Purdy is the difference between 15 and 14.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

the most efficient personnel grouping to pass out of last year was 12 personnel

12 personnel usage rate on pass plays:

34% - BAL
29% - KC
27% - SEA
23% - ATL
22% - GB
21% - NO
20% - TEN, PIT, HOU
19% - ARI
17% - DEN
16% - NYG, CLE, JAX, NYJ
15% - DAL, LAC
14% - PHI, WAS, CAR…

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) May 4, 2023

Perhaps that's why the 3rd round TE was drafted. We'll see if he can quickly get up to speed and start contributing. The one thing that might make this chart misleading a bit is that there are only a handful of teams in the league that use a fullback (21 personnel). So the list of teams that can pitch in with the 21 (fullback in) versus 12 (two TEs) "battle", as to which grouping is more efficient to pass out of is very limited. I wonder how the 49ers' 21 personnel stacks up with the league's 12 when it comes to passing efficiency (whatever that means).

I think a big takeaway from that chart is that the league's slot CB is better than the league's SAM linebacker when it comes to pass coverage. This makes sense as the slot CB could be considered a starter while the SAM LB is the part time player. So defenses will naturally place higher priority on the slot CB. 11 personnel was all the craze the past couple years - most teams used it over 60% of the time. Let's see if there is a shift to more 12/21 now.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

the most efficient personnel grouping to pass out of last year was 12 personnel

12 personnel usage rate on pass plays:

34% - BAL
29% - KC
27% - SEA
23% - ATL
22% - GB
21% - NO
20% - TEN, PIT, HOU
19% - ARI
17% - DEN
16% - NYG, CLE, JAX, NYJ
15% - DAL, LAC
14% - PHI, WAS, CAR…

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) May 4, 2023

Perhaps that's why the 3rd round TE was drafted. We'll see if he can quickly get up to speed and start contributing. The one thing that might make this chart misleading a bit is that there are only a handful of teams in the league that use a fullback (21 personnel). So the list of teams that can pitch in with the 21 (fullback in) versus 12 (two TEs) "battle", as to which grouping is more efficient to pass out of is very limited. I wonder how the 49ers' 21 personnel stacks up with the league's 12 when it comes to passing efficiency (whatever that means).

I think a big takeaway from that chart is that the league's slot CB is better than the league's SAM linebacker when it comes to pass coverage. This makes sense as the slot CB could be considered a starter while the SAM LB is the part time player. So defenses will naturally place higher priority on the slot CB. 11 personnel was all the craze the past couple years - most teams used it over 60% of the time. Let's see if there is a shift to more 12/21 now.

I found it interesting that the TEs are getting higher amount of targets vs the common 2 high shell defense.

also KC adjusting to this to win a SB after losing Hill .

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

the most efficient personnel grouping to pass out of last year was 12 personnel

12 personnel usage rate on pass plays:

34% - BAL
29% - KC
27% - SEA
23% - ATL
22% - GB
21% - NO
20% - TEN, PIT, HOU
19% - ARI
17% - DEN
16% - NYG, CLE, JAX, NYJ
15% - DAL, LAC
14% - PHI, WAS, CAR…

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) May 4, 2023

Perhaps that's why the 3rd round TE was drafted. We'll see if he can quickly get up to speed and start contributing. The one thing that might make this chart misleading a bit is that there are only a handful of teams in the league that use a fullback (21 personnel). So the list of teams that can pitch in with the 21 (fullback in) versus 12 (two TEs) "battle", as to which grouping is more efficient to pass out of is very limited. I wonder how the 49ers' 21 personnel stacks up with the league's 12 when it comes to passing efficiency (whatever that means).

I think a big takeaway from that chart is that the league's slot CB is better than the league's SAM linebacker when it comes to pass coverage. This makes sense as the slot CB could be considered a starter while the SAM LB is the part time player. So defenses will naturally place higher priority on the slot CB. 11 personnel was all the craze the past couple years - most teams used it over 60% of the time. Let's see if there is a shift to more 12/21 now.

I found it interesting that the TEs are getting higher amount of targets vs the common 2 high shell defense.

also KC adjusting to this to win a SB after losing Hill .

I assume you are referencing this tweet in that thread:
I wonder if he's still talking about 12 personnel, or TEs in general (in any grouping). Kyle has been making half hearted attempts at finding a good receiving TE2, signing old Jordan Reed, toying around with Jordan Mathews the TE formerly known as a WR, hoping Woerner would develop into a decent receiving TE. He finally went out and spent decent draft capital on a TE prospect.

Belichick spoke in depth about the pros and cons between having a FB on the field (21) versus a second TE (12). Long story short, a FB is better for the run game, a second TE is better for the pass game.

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
All these rumors of trading Lance and the drafting of Arnold, is Shanahan working in the laboratory mixing something up?

If its shannahan making the call then we are F'ed. Look at his track record so far. SI is already calling trey one of the top 10 worst busts. The 49ers need to fire his a$$ on principal alone. Get his arrogant a$$ outta here for the trey F up alone.

Don't be ridiculous. Of course Shanahan had a say in the drafting of Lance. As did Lynch. And York. I don't know who Arnold is, but if you are referring to Darnold we didn't draft him. Look it up. I don't care what SI think and neither should anybody else.

Yeah, look at his track record. What did he inherit? Clue: absolutely nothing, a dreadful team. And what has he built? You ought to know this if you are a supporter. You got a problem?

Not many coaches get fired for one draft. I wonder why. Maybe it's because the draft is a lottery, and in the case of Shanahan and Lynch, what they have done with the team anyway is quite stunning.

Rams and Seahawks fans want him sacked, though.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

the most efficient personnel grouping to pass out of last year was 12 personnel

12 personnel usage rate on pass plays:

34% - BAL
29% - KC
27% - SEA
23% - ATL
22% - GB
21% - NO
20% - TEN, PIT, HOU
19% - ARI
17% - DEN
16% - NYG, CLE, JAX, NYJ
15% - DAL, LAC
14% - PHI, WAS, CAR…

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) May 4, 2023

Perhaps that's why the 3rd round TE was drafted. We'll see if he can quickly get up to speed and start contributing. The one thing that might make this chart misleading a bit is that there are only a handful of teams in the league that use a fullback (21 personnel). So the list of teams that can pitch in with the 21 (fullback in) versus 12 (two TEs) "battle", as to which grouping is more efficient to pass out of is very limited. I wonder how the 49ers' 21 personnel stacks up with the league's 12 when it comes to passing efficiency (whatever that means).

I think a big takeaway from that chart is that the league's slot CB is better than the league's SAM linebacker when it comes to pass coverage. This makes sense as the slot CB could be considered a starter while the SAM LB is the part time player. So defenses will naturally place higher priority on the slot CB. 11 personnel was all the craze the past couple years - most teams used it over 60% of the time. Let's see if there is a shift to more 12/21 now.

I found it interesting that the TEs are getting higher amount of targets vs the common 2 high shell defense.

also KC adjusting to this to win a SB after losing Hill .

I assume you are referencing this tweet in that thread:

I love it also (and TE-targets are having more success vs en vogue 2-high shell defenses than WR or RB targets as well)

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) May 4, 2023

I wonder if he's still talking about 12 personnel, or TEs in general (in any grouping). Kyle has been making half hearted attempts at finding a good receiving TE2, signing old Jordan Reed, toying around with Jordan Mathews the TE formerly known as a WR, hoping Woerner would develop into a decent receiving TE. He finally went out and spent decent draft capital on a TE prospect.

Belichick spoke in depth about the pros and cons between having a FB on the field (21) versus a second TE (12). Long story short, a FB is better for the run game, a second TE is better for the pass game.

Here is Bellichick breaking down the three tight end formation for the Browns. I think there's a possibility Kyle is going to go three tight end base with Purdy being able to pass so arcuately from it.

This is an excellent watch from last night.

I highly recommend it.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

the most efficient personnel grouping to pass out of last year was 12 personnel

12 personnel usage rate on pass plays:

34% - BAL
29% - KC
27% - SEA
23% - ATL
22% - GB
21% - NO
20% - TEN, PIT, HOU
19% - ARI
17% - DEN
16% - NYG, CLE, JAX, NYJ
15% - DAL, LAC
14% - PHI, WAS, CAR…

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) May 4, 2023

Perhaps that's why the 3rd round TE was drafted. We'll see if he can quickly get up to speed and start contributing. The one thing that might make this chart misleading a bit is that there are only a handful of teams in the league that use a fullback (21 personnel). So the list of teams that can pitch in with the 21 (fullback in) versus 12 (two TEs) "battle", as to which grouping is more efficient to pass out of is very limited. I wonder how the 49ers' 21 personnel stacks up with the league's 12 when it comes to passing efficiency (whatever that means).

I think a big takeaway from that chart is that the league's slot CB is better than the league's SAM linebacker when it comes to pass coverage. This makes sense as the slot CB could be considered a starter while the SAM LB is the part time player. So defenses will naturally place higher priority on the slot CB. 11 personnel was all the craze the past couple years - most teams used it over 60% of the time. Let's see if there is a shift to more 12/21 now.

I found it interesting that the TEs are getting higher amount of targets vs the common 2 high shell defense.

also KC adjusting to this to win a SB after losing Hill .

I assume you are referencing this tweet in that thread:

I love it also (and TE-targets are having more success vs en vogue 2-high shell defenses than WR or RB targets as well)

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) May 4, 2023

I wonder if he's still talking about 12 personnel, or TEs in general (in any grouping). Kyle has been making half hearted attempts at finding a good receiving TE2, signing old Jordan Reed, toying around with Jordan Mathews the TE formerly known as a WR, hoping Woerner would develop into a decent receiving TE. He finally went out and spent decent draft capital on a TE prospect.

Belichick spoke in depth about the pros and cons between having a FB on the field (21) versus a second TE (12). Long story short, a FB is better for the run game, a second TE is better for the pass game.

Here is Bellichick breaking down the three tight end formation for the Browns. I think there's a possibility Kyle is going to go three tight end base with Purdy being able to pass so arcuately from it.

When you say "3TE base", what do you mean? That this 3TE grouping will be replacing their usual 21 personnel (2rb/1te/2wr) as the primary grouping that keeps the defense's base personnel (4 DBs) on the field?

"Purdy being able to pass so arcuately from it". When did they do this last season? I don't recall Kittle Dwelley and Woerner being on the field at the same time last season.