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  • Giedi
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Oh man. Could jimmy be back on the market? Oh man.

Well, conceivably, if those three foot fractures don't heal in time for him to play during the season. I can see that happening.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Oh man. Could jimmy be back on the market? Oh man.

Well, conceivably, if those three foot fractures don't heal in time for him to play during the season. I can see that happening.

That was a terrible looking break. I just happened to see it again the other day. This all isn't surprising in the least.

As much as I like Brock, I can't say this early that he'd be a hall of famer, there's just no way to jump that far. Even if you were to get that crazy this early, could you actually argue this soon that he'd be better than Montana and Young?

In this NFL, I feel like Joe and Steve would be lighting it up with 40+ PPG.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on May 30, 2023 at 7:50 AM ]
  • thl408
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:

As much as I like Brock, I can't say this early that he'd be a hall of famer AND better than Montana and Young.

In this NFL, I feel like Joe and Steve would be lighting it up with 40+ PPG.

It's not about the Xs and Os, it's about the Jimmys and the Joes. Give me Kyle and Joe.
Originally posted by thl408:
It's not about the Xs and Os, it's about the Jimmys and the Joes. Give me Kyle and Joe.

I picked C too. A great coach matters, but a generational player will help any good coach shine. Brady carried BB for years.
Jimmy is a walking injury.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:

As much as I like Brock, I can't say this early that he'd be a hall of famer AND better than Montana and Young.

In this NFL, I feel like Joe and Steve would be lighting it up with 40+ PPG.

It's not about the Xs and Os, it's about the Jimmys and the Joes. Give me Kyle and Joe.

I saw a guy on Twitter say Brock and Walsh because of Walsh. love Bill but that's ridiculous. Give me kyle a a Montana and it's really not close. (Would love young and kyle in today's league)
Give me Young and Kyle
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Does Kyle go with Reid in strategizing *no more fullback* and is that why he drafted TWO tight ends in this draft cycle?

Among the many changes to NFL offenses over recent decades has been the long, slow decline of the fullback position. Chiefs coach Andy Reid recognizes that.
The Chiefs let fullback Michael Burton leave for the Broncos in free agency this offseason, and Reid said the Chiefs won't be bringing in a fullback to replace him. An extra tight end would be more likely to take up the fullback's roster spot.
https://sports.yahoo.com/andy-reid-fullbacks-eased-nfl-090159765.html

No. Weve just lost all positional discipline when drafting.. Thats why.

What do you mean by positional discipline? Drafting for priority positions (QB, Edge, OT)? Or draft slot versus predraft grade (reaching for a low rated prospect)? Or something else.

I mean drafting for positions of greatest need, then selecting bpa for that position.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Does Kyle go with Reid in strategizing *no more fullback* and is that why he drafted TWO tight ends in this draft cycle?

Among the many changes to NFL offenses over recent decades has been the long, slow decline of the fullback position. Chiefs coach Andy Reid recognizes that.
The Chiefs let fullback Michael Burton leave for the Broncos in free agency this offseason, and Reid said the Chiefs won't be bringing in a fullback to replace him. An extra tight end would be more likely to take up the fullback's roster spot.
https://sports.yahoo.com/andy-reid-fullbacks-eased-nfl-090159765.html

No. Weve just lost all positional discipline when drafting.. Thats why.

Or, for whatever reason, his best player available led him to the two Tight Ends drafted?

Do we need two tight ends if kittle is healthy and coming back. Not sure i see it.
  • thl408
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Does Kyle go with Reid in strategizing *no more fullback* and is that why he drafted TWO tight ends in this draft cycle?

Among the many changes to NFL offenses over recent decades has been the long, slow decline of the fullback position. Chiefs coach Andy Reid recognizes that.
The Chiefs let fullback Michael Burton leave for the Broncos in free agency this offseason, and Reid said the Chiefs won't be bringing in a fullback to replace him. An extra tight end would be more likely to take up the fullback's roster spot.
https://sports.yahoo.com/andy-reid-fullbacks-eased-nfl-090159765.html

No. Weve just lost all positional discipline when drafting.. Thats why.

Or, for whatever reason, his best player available led him to the two Tight Ends drafted?

Do we need two tight ends if kittle is healthy and coming back. Not sure i see it.

I think they knew they wanted to upgrade TE2. From the draft results, that's what I deduced. Then, similar to how they drafted Trey Sermon and Eli Mitchell in the same draft, perhaps that drafted Latu because they gave him a high grade, then later in the draft they saw BPA with Brayden Willis so they went ahead and drafted another.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Does Kyle go with Reid in strategizing *no more fullback* and is that why he drafted TWO tight ends in this draft cycle?

Among the many changes to NFL offenses over recent decades has been the long, slow decline of the fullback position. Chiefs coach Andy Reid recognizes that.
The Chiefs let fullback Michael Burton leave for the Broncos in free agency this offseason, and Reid said the Chiefs won't be bringing in a fullback to replace him. An extra tight end would be more likely to take up the fullback's roster spot.
https://sports.yahoo.com/andy-reid-fullbacks-eased-nfl-090159765.html

No. Weve just lost all positional discipline when drafting.. Thats why.

Or, for whatever reason, his best player available led him to the two Tight Ends drafted?

Do we need two tight ends if kittle is healthy and coming back. Not sure i see it.

I think they knew they wanted to upgrade TE2. From the draft results, that's what I deduced. Then, similar to how they drafted Trey Sermon and Eli Mitchell in the same draft, perhaps that drafted Latu because they gave him a high grade, then later in the draft they saw BPA with Brayden Willis so they went ahead and drafted another.

Hm.In the meantime, our starting rg graded 49, our starting rt has less than 500 career snaps, and we lost 1700 snaps on the defensive line.

Assuming hargrave at +650, +300 for armstead (i.e. he doesn't get injured), and +150 for Jackson (BE REALISTIC) we're still short a full time player.

Plus you can go ahead and -150 for Bosa because we don't want to run him 750 snaps.

But..it makes sense to go all in for an extra tight end?

And a receiver (We have the #1 or #2 receiver room in the league)?

And not take the #2 kicker in the draft and use the 3rd rounder to find a horse we like?

This is why people write nasty things about our draft discipline.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Oh man. Could jimmy be back on the market? Oh man.

Well, conceivably, if those three foot fractures don't heal in time for him to play during the season. I can see that happening.

JGs fine folks
why do you think LV has Hoyer and a 4th round rook behind JG
why do you think JG accepted the reworked deal

keep calm folks

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Oh man. Could jimmy be back on the market? Oh man.

Well, conceivably, if those three foot fractures don't heal in time for him to play during the season. I can see that happening.

JGs fine folks
why do you think LV has Hoyer and a 4th round rook behind JG
why do you think JG accepted the reworked deal

keep calm folks


I'm sensing deja vu all over again.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:

As much as I like Brock, I can't say this early that he'd be a hall of famer, there's just no way to jump that far. Even if you were to get that crazy this early, could you actually argue this soon that he'd be better than Montana and Young?

In this NFL, I feel like Joe and Steve would be lighting it up with 40+ PPG.

Option D should be Tomsula and Jimmy G.
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