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Originally posted by evil:
So he helped build and develop the talent on a so called stacked Super Bowl ready roster and you want to fire that guy?

Yup....he did all that and can't win the big one .. absolutely..going on 7 yrs and and still no QB, no title.
Aren't u tired of coming up short?
Originally posted by tankle104:
Lol what Kyle really needs is the team to stay healthy. We must be closing in on some sort of record over a 6 year span for season ending injuries. I mean it's just been ridiculous. It seriously has had to be a 1% chance or less for us to have all these injuries every year.

Since Kyle has been here we have been the most injured team in the league according to espn
Originally posted by dmax:
Originally posted by evil:
So he helped build and develop the talent on a so called stacked Super Bowl ready roster and you want to fire that guy?

Yup....he did all that and can't win the big one .. absolutely..going on 7 yrs and and still no QB, no title.
Aren't u tired of coming up short?

And replace him with who smart guy? I am sure your response will be as dumb as your posts.
Originally posted by dmax:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Lol what Kyle really needs is the team to stay healthy. We must be closing in on some sort of record over a 6 year span for season ending injuries. I mean it's just been ridiculous. It seriously has had to be a 1% chance or less for us to have all these injuries every year.

Since Kyle has been here we have been the most injured team in the league according to espn

Cool now you're giving reasons why Kyle hasn't won the big one. Unless you're suggesting Kyle injures his players. Like when Jimmy G was running out of bounds the camera didn't show it but Kyle pushed him to stay in bounds causing his knee to buckle. Or when Nick Bosa had his knee bent over a mass of bodies we all thought it was the Jets TE but Kyle stole the uniform and ran out there and did it.
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
And replace him with who smart guy? I am sure your response will be as dumb as your posts.

someone who will and can get us over the hump smart guy. Y'all act like kyle is this super head coach.
Say something else about my "dumb" posts swoosh and you and i will have a problem
[ Edited by dmax on Jun 9, 2023 at 7:22 AM ]
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Cool now you're giving reasons why Kyle hasn't won the big one. Unless you're suggesting Kyle injures his players. Like when Jimmy G was running out of bounds the camera didn't show it but Kyle pushed him to stay in bounds causing his knee to buckle. Or when Nick Bosa had his knee bent over a mass of bodies we all thought it was the Jets TE but Kyle stole the uniform and ran out there and did it.

i dont know what kyle is or isnt doing in practice...the facts are we have the most injuries of any team since kyles tenure
it was from espn...
Originally posted by dmax:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
And replace him with who smart guy? I am sure your response will be as dumb as your posts.

someone who will and can get us over the hump smart guy. Y'all act like kyle is this super head coach.
Say something else about my "dumb" posts swoosh and you and i will have a problem

Gents, I haven't banned anyone all week. Maybe stop trying so hard to be my next victim?
Originally posted by English:
Gents, I haven't banned anyone all week. Maybe stop trying so hard to be my next victim?

sigh..yes sir
Originally posted by dmax:
Originally posted by evil:
So he helped build and develop the talent on a so called stacked Super Bowl ready roster and you want to fire that guy?

Yup....he did all that and can't win the big one .. absolutely..going on 7 yrs and and still no QB, no title.
Aren't u tired of coming up short?

Football isn't that simple.
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by dmax:
Originally posted by evil:
So he helped build and develop the talent on a so called stacked Super Bowl ready roster and you want to fire that guy?

Yup....he did all that and can't win the big one .. absolutely..going on 7 yrs and and still no QB, no title.
Aren't u tired of coming up short?

Football isn't that simple.
it is if you jump onto every winning team
Originally posted by dmax:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Cool now you're giving reasons why Kyle hasn't won the big one. Unless you're suggesting Kyle injures his players. Like when Jimmy G was running out of bounds the camera didn't show it but Kyle pushed him to stay in bounds causing his knee to buckle. Or when Nick Bosa had his knee bent over a mass of bodies we all thought it was the Jets TE but Kyle stole the uniform and ran out there and did it.

i dont know what kyle is or isnt doing in practice...the facts are we have the most injuries of any team since kyles tenure
it was from espn...

I'm mean do you think Kyle is deliberately doing something to cause injuries. A lot of people were saying injuries was why Kyles W/L record looked bad. Ow that he was a winning record it's a testament of how good of a coach we have that he can endure so many injuries and keep on winning. But because he hasn't gotten over the hump and won a Super Bowl you think he should be fired? When it's painfully obvious Kyles in the top 5 of HCs in the NFL. I genuinely do not get how you can still be upset with him as a coach. I appreciate the Talladega Nights "if your not first, your last" bravado but hell man he was high when he said that.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I'm mean do you think Kyle is deliberately doing something to cause injuries. A lot of people were saying injuries was why Kyles W/L record looked bad. Ow that he was a winning record it's a testament of how good of a coach we have that he can endure so many injuries and keep on winning. But because he hasn't gotten over the hump and won a Super Bowl you think he should be fired? When it's painfully obvious Kyles in the top 5 of HCs in the NFL. I genuinely do not get how you can still be upset with him as a coach. I appreciate the Talladega Nights "if your not first, your last" bravado but hell man he was high when he said that.

..you are all right
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This is the kind of stuff I'm into. A shift is underway and it's going to be very interesting to see how it shakes out. Player talent is still the most important factor, and always will be, but as far as scheme goes, there is an adapting process taking place as offenses adjust to the defensive shift in philosophy in forcing offenses to dink and dunk.
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https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2023/6/5/23744080/five-games-2022-season-nfl-scheme-wars
If defenses are going to keep pace, they'll have to get more creative. Simply lining up in static two-high coverages isn't as effective a solution as it may have been a year ago. Quarterbacks are already learning how to pick those defenses apart, and the dual-threat QBs don't even need to put the ball in the air to do it. The 2022 season showed us that the only way to keep pace with the league's increasingly creative offensive strategies is with equally creative defensive answers. This means more shrewdly designed coverage disguises, more simulated pressures, and even more game plans specifically tailored to stopping individual offenses. In that way, the NFL's scheme war is becoming an arms race in which quantity is just as vital as quality.
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Too long not reading that article (too bad, you are missing out):
- Defenses saw LAR and KC shredding pass defenses (2018-2021). In comes Fangio's scheme (2 high coverages) to combat that. Sacrifices run defense, forces passing game to take shorter completions.
- Breaks down five matchups in the 2022 season that showed what is happening with regards to offense versus defense. Includes breakdown of SF versus DEN 2022.
- Defenses will need to lean on disguise to make QBs and OLs think. Simply playing two deep safeties is no longer enough.
Originally posted by thl408:
This is the kind of stuff I'm into. A shift is underway and it's going to be very interesting to see how it shakes out. Player talent is still the most important factor, and always will be, but as far as scheme goes, there is an adapting process taking place as offenses adjust to the defensive shift in philosophy in forcing offenses to dink and dunk.
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https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2023/6/5/23744080/five-games-2022-season-nfl-scheme-wars
If defenses are going to keep pace, they'll have to get more creative. Simply lining up in static two-high coverages isn't as effective a solution as it may have been a year ago. Quarterbacks are already learning how to pick those defenses apart, and the dual-threat QBs don't even need to put the ball in the air to do it. The 2022 season showed us that the only way to keep pace with the league's increasingly creative offensive strategies is with equally creative defensive answers. This means more shrewdly designed coverage disguises, more simulated pressures, and even more game plans specifically tailored to stopping individual offenses. In that way, the NFL's scheme war is becoming an arms race in which quantity is just as vital as quality.
---------------
Too long not reading that article (too bad, you are missing out):
- Defenses saw LAR and KC shredding pass defenses (2018-2021). In comes Fangio's scheme (2 high coverages) to combat that. Sacrifices run defense, forces passing game to take shorter completions.
- Breaks down five matchups in the 2022 season that showed what is happening with regards to offense versus defense. Includes breakdown of SF versus DEN 2022.
- Defenses will need to lean on disguise to make QBs and OLs think. Simply playing two deep safeties is no longer enough.

Or the NFL competition committee could take their jobs seriously and give defenses some rule changes instead of making their jobs harder every year.
Originally posted by thl408:
This is the kind of stuff I'm into. A shift is underway and it's going to be very interesting to see how it shakes out. Player talent is still the most important factor, and always will be, but as far as scheme goes, there is an adapting process taking place as offenses adjust to the defensive shift in philosophy in forcing offenses to dink and dunk.
----------------
https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2023/6/5/23744080/five-games-2022-season-nfl-scheme-wars
If defenses are going to keep pace, they'll have to get more creative. Simply lining up in static two-high coverages isn't as effective a solution as it may have been a year ago. Quarterbacks are already learning how to pick those defenses apart, and the dual-threat QBs don't even need to put the ball in the air to do it. The 2022 season showed us that the only way to keep pace with the league's increasingly creative offensive strategies is with equally creative defensive answers. This means more shrewdly designed coverage disguises, more simulated pressures, and even more game plans specifically tailored to stopping individual offenses. In that way, the NFL's scheme war is becoming an arms race in which quantity is just as vital as quality.
---------------
Too long not reading that article (too bad, you are missing out):
- Defenses saw LAR and KC shredding pass defenses (2018-2021). In comes Fangio's scheme (2 high coverages) to combat that. Sacrifices run defense, forces passing game to take shorter completions.
- Breaks down five matchups in the 2022 season that showed what is happening with regards to offense versus defense. Includes breakdown of SF versus DEN 2022.
- Defenses will need to lean on disguise to make QBs and OLs think. Simply playing two deep safeties is no longer enough.

My suspicion was KC moved out Hill, as somewhat of an admission that they weren't gonna attack downfield as much, D already shifted a bit to the 2 high safety look, in fear of his speed. They were paced by Kelce as a matchup nightmare in the short to intermediate game, and Pacheco, who is a hammer. Keep those safeties back, and they'll just pound the ball at you, or check it down to McKinnon in the pass game, who can use his speed to outflank linebackers in coverage. My question is do we have the downfield game, to get those safeties off the LOS? That was the hope with TL. We want to see the 2 high safeties with our ground game, it would play into our hands.
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