49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
We shall see. But a journeyman undrafted center, a n untested 4th and 5th round pick on the right side of the line, and no depth doesn't instill confidence.

both Brendel and Burford were really good last year I think the only ? is RT

not saying we have an elite OL but I don't think we are bottom tier either

It's impossible to have every single unit be good to elite. It cost way too much money to have both a good defensive and offensive line, especially when you have a bunch of money tied up in other skill positions. If our line performs similar to last season with more continuity and only replacing our RT, then I believe they end up middle of the pack again, which is more than enough to help us win a title.

The problematic issue is our depth, but I trust that our front office will figure this out. We also have all our draft picks, so it wouldn't shock me if the offensive line gets an upgrade if we need it. Kyle and John won't watch this season go down the drain because of poor OLine play. I just don't think there is a rush right now to address an issue that we don't even know if it's really a weakness yet. Remember how some felt about Banks at the start of last season? He changed how people thought about him pretty quickly and Colton could do the same. If not, we'll acquire someone else to start at RT.

I trust our front office and coaches.

Statistically they were better than middle of the pack. They were top 10 actually. But they just didn't pass the "eye test" of the fan base.

That's fantastic.
I felt better about the line last year than I have in a long time, not sure if it was Deebo, CMC etc or improvement as a unit.

IMHO, it was a bit of all of the above. Foerster talks about how intense and detailed this system is and how long it takes to learn. This is why Kyle typically brings in veterans who already know his system vs. going young top talent and developing them. Banks had a red shirt year. Burford platooning with Brunskill. Brendel already knew Foerster's system for years. They needed time on the field to grow.

Throw is quick-release QB's, short-area winning YAC monsters and CMC as the best outlet ever and that all plays off each other.

With 4 out 5 guys on the line having a year together in the system should mean improvement. Maybe we jump up a couple of rankings and reach top 5 this season.

THAT is certainly possible. I'm excited to see the growth in year 2!

our OL this year (when healthy) will be the best OL we've had since Harbaugh was here.

That may be your only good take ever. Haha.

Now nainmoonz is gonna give this OL a nickname

Oh noooooo! Haha.

Originally posted by 9moon:
our OL this year (when healthy) will be the best OL we've had since Harbaugh was here.

oh s**t and i was kind of optimistic about our OL this year

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by 9moon:
our OL this year (when healthy) will be the best OL we've had since Harbaugh was here.

oh s**t and i was kind of optimistic about our OL this year

Ha. Kiss od death right there.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
We shall see. But a journeyman undrafted center, a n untested 4th and 5th round pick on the right side of the line, and no depth doesn't instill confidence.

both Brendel and Burford were really good last year I think the only ? is RT

not saying we have an elite OL but I don't think we are bottom tier either

It's impossible to have every single unit be good to elite. It cost way too much money to have both a good defensive and offensive line, especially when you have a bunch of money tied up in other skill positions. If our line performs similar to last season with more continuity and only replacing our RT, then I believe they end up middle of the pack again, which is more than enough to help us win a title.

The problematic issue is our depth, but I trust that our front office will figure this out. We also have all our draft picks, so it wouldn't shock me if the offensive line gets an upgrade if we need it. Kyle and John won't watch this season go down the drain because of poor OLine play. I just don't think there is a rush right now to address an issue that we don't even know if it's really a weakness yet. Remember how some felt about Banks at the start of last season? He changed how people thought about him pretty quickly and Colton could do the same. If not, we'll acquire someone else to start at RT.

I trust our front office and coaches.

Statistically they were better than middle of the pack. They were top 10 actually. But they just didn't pass the "eye test" of the fan base.

That's fantastic.
I felt better about the line last year than I have in a long time, not sure if it was Deebo, CMC etc or improvement as a unit.

IMHO, it was a bit of all of the above. Foerster talks about how intense and detailed this system is and how long it takes to learn. This is why Kyle typically brings in veterans who already know his system vs. going young top talent and developing them. Banks had a red shirt year. Burford platooning with Brunskill. Brendel already knew Foerster's system for years. They needed time on the field to grow.

Throw is quick-release QB's, short-area winning YAC monsters and CMC as the best outlet ever and that all plays off each other.

With 4 out 5 guys on the line having a year together in the system should mean improvement. Maybe we jump up a couple of rankings and reach top 5 this season.

THAT is certainly possible. I'm excited to see the growth in year 2!

our OL this year (when healthy) will be the best OL we've had since Harbaugh was here.

That may be your only good take ever. Haha.

Now nainmoonz is gonna give this OL a nickname

Oh noooooo! Haha.

bang bang, move the chain gang

We need a coach that can develop a QB.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We need a coach that can develop a QB.

You mean a coach like the coach who has been developing Brock Purdy ?

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We need a coach that can develop a QB.

You mean a coach like the coach who has been developing Brock Purdy ?

We really don't know if he's developed him at all at this point. Jimmy also flashed greatness at the start but that I would pretty much credit his college coach and belicheck for right?

Same with purdy. It's not like he got some special program as the third string guy. His success from a coaching standpoint is almost assuredly mostly from his college and high school coaches at this point.

If he looks substantially improved this season then we can start dishing credit to the 49ers staff.

Under shanahan I have yet to see year over year improvement from any QBs yet.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We need a coach that can develop a QB.

You mean a coach like the coach who has been developing Brock Purdy ?

We really don't know if he's developed him at all at this point. Jimmy also flashed greatness at the start but that I would pretty much credit his college coach and belicheck for right?

Same with purdy. It's not like he got some special program as the third string guy. His success from a coaching standpoint is almost assuredly mostly from his college and high school coaches at this point.

If he looks substantially improved this season then we can start dishing credit to the 49ers staff.

Under shanahan I have yet to see year over year improvement from any QBs yet.

I doubt Kyle invested a considerable amount of time with Mr. Irrelevant.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We need a coach that can develop a QB.

That coach would be God, but God doesn't exist.. well, doesn't exist physically

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We need a coach that can develop a QB.

You mean a coach like the coach who has been developing Brock Purdy ?

We really don't know if he's developed him at all at this point. Jimmy also flashed greatness at the start but that I would pretty much credit his college coach and belicheck for right?

Same with purdy. It's not like he got some special program as the third string guy. His success from a coaching standpoint is almost assuredly mostly from his college and high school coaches at this point.

If he looks substantially improved this season then we can start dishing credit to the 49ers staff.

Under shanahan I have yet to see year over year improvement from any QBs yet.

I doubt Kyle invested a considerable amount of time with Mr. Irrelevant.

Purdy was fighting for his life for a roster spot last year against "Nate the Great". I doubt Kyle even cared. All of Purdy's quarterback development came from Iowa State and high school coaches

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We need a coach that can develop a QB.

You mean a coach like the coach who has been developing Brock Purdy ?

We really don't know if he's developed him at all at this point. Jimmy also flashed greatness at the start but that I would pretty much credit his college coach and belicheck for right?

Same with purdy. It's not like he got some special program as the third string guy. His success from a coaching standpoint is almost assuredly mostly from his college and high school coaches at this point.

If he looks substantially improved this season then we can start dishing credit to the 49ers staff.

Under shanahan I have yet to see year over year improvement from any QBs yet.

No matter what string you are, you still sit in the same meeting rooms, same film rooms, share the same practice fields and get firsthand coaching and feedback from the coaches. You may have fewer reps and fewer opportunities but the ability to learn, grow and get coached up is still there.

It's also been shown multiple times by a few different posters on here that QBs coached by Kyle tend to have their most productive years under him.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We need a coach that can develop a QB.

You mean a coach like the coach who has been developing Brock Purdy ?

We really don't know if he's developed him at all at this point. Jimmy also flashed greatness at the start but that I would pretty much credit his college coach and belicheck for right?

Same with purdy. It's not like he got some special program as the third string guy. His success from a coaching standpoint is almost assuredly mostly from his college and high school coaches at this point.

If he looks substantially improved this season then we can start dishing credit to the 49ers staff.

Under shanahan I have yet to see year over year improvement from any QBs yet.

I doubt Kyle invested a considerable amount of time with Mr. Irrelevant.

True. But just judging from griese's excitement for purdy in a preseason game last year, it appears griese spent a lot of time with him.

Originally posted by evil:
No matter what string you are, you still sit in the same meeting rooms, same film rooms, share the same practice fields and get firsthand coaching and feedback from the coaches. You may have fewer reps and fewer opportunities but the ability to learn, grow and get coached up is still there.

It's also been shown multiple times by a few different posters on here that QBs coached by Kyle tend to have their most productive years under him.

I guess I see it the other way. I see Kyle as a great offensive mind/coach but I have not seen the QB whisperer always talked about. I see it as his greatest weakness from the offensive side of things. But hey, that's me.

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by evil:
No matter what string you are, you still sit in the same meeting rooms, same film rooms, share the same practice fields and get firsthand coaching and feedback from the coaches. You may have fewer reps and fewer opportunities but the ability to learn, grow and get coached up is still there.

It's also been shown multiple times by a few different posters on here that QBs coached by Kyle tend to have their most productive years under him.

I guess I see it the other way. I see Kyle as a great offensive mind/coach but I have not seen the QB whisperer always talked about. I see it as his greatest weakness from the offensive side of things. But hey, that's me.

I never called him nor implied he is a "QB whisperer".

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by evil:
No matter what string you are, you still sit in the same meeting rooms, same film rooms, share the same practice fields and get firsthand coaching and feedback from the coaches. You may have fewer reps and fewer opportunities but the ability to learn, grow and get coached up is still there.

It's also been shown multiple times by a few different posters on here that QBs coached by Kyle tend to have their most productive years under him.

I guess I see it the other way. I see Kyle as a great offensive mind/coach but I have not seen the QB whisperer always talked about. I see it as his greatest weakness from the offensive side of things. But hey, that's me.

I never called him nor implied he is a "QB whisperer".

That's why Griese is in the bldg, and it is no coincidence, Brock happened under Griese