Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
And I don't need pff's rankings to prove you wrong. Its just the first step in my argument. You provide very little evidence for anything and then turn around demand every bit of available evidence in order to get you to back off on your extreme takes on the o line.
There's nothing extreme about admitting who had the two best lines last year. That's like trying to say the 9ers and Eagles didn't have the two best DL's or overall defenses.
I also haven't asked you for anything. You're working OT to try to prove the Chiefs didn't have a top OL.
I just showed you what the best OL and DL site said from start to finish and nobody disagreed...until now. 
I must have missed it? What thread? What day?
I already gave you establish the run's season start ranking, mid season rankings and playoff rankings.
Chiefs #2 to start the season, #3 mid-season by Thorn and #3 going into the playoffs.
They are just as knowledgeable on the DL:
Tier 1: Every-Week Starters
Dallas Cowboys
The Dan Quinn-led Cowboys finished as the D/ST2 last season and arguably got better in the offseason. They drafted the highly-regarded Mazi Smith to be an anchor in the middle of the defensive line, with Micah Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence back as the outside anchors in pass rush. Dallas also signed Stephon Gilmore to man the other corner position opposite Trevon Diggs. There are playmakers at every level of this defense, while they boast Thorn's No. 1-ranked defensive line. They should be an elite fantasy defense once again this season.
Philadelphia Eagles
Philly was a consistent fantasy performer last season, finishing as the D/ST5 thanks to a league-high 70 sacks. Their 25.5% pressure rate ranked second behind only Dallas, and they largely return the same personnel up front with first-round pick Jalen Carter substituted for offseason departure Javon Hargrave. Their star power paired with depth up front gives them a consistent fantasy floor with upside for more each week with Darius Slay and James Bradberry manning the outside corner positions.
San Francisco 49ers
DeMeco Ryans may have left for the head coaching position in Houston, but the San Francisco defense should excel once again in 2023. Their top-end talent and depth up front give them an amazing floor, with playmakers littered throughout the secondary adding elite weekly upside. Combine that with a Charmin-soft schedule in the early going and playing in the same division as the Rams and Cardinals, and the 49ers have a great chance to finish above their D/ST3 finish in 2022. Their first four matchups against the Steelers, Rams, Giants, and Cardinals all feature offensive lines landing in the bottom 10 of Brandon Thorn's Offensive Line rankings.
You probably won't dispute them on this though, huh?
Unless PFF tells you otherwise.
[ Edited by NCommand on Aug 18, 2023 at 5:57 PM ]
My man! 