49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Earlier in the season, there was lots of talk about tanking....soft tank, hard tank, whatever tank so we get top 2-5 pick in draft. Then with 0-2, 0-4, and now 0-6, some fans were well on their way. But if anyone thinks kyle and lynch are taking this laying down, they are grossly mistaken. They want each and every win they can squeeze out fo the game. They are NOT tanking, especially kyle. All you had to do was look at him on the sideline last Sunday to see a guy tormented by this team's play...ok, his QBs play. Then the yank and in comes CJ. I take kyle at his word of wanting DJ on the clipboard all yr, learning by watching. Unfortunately, there was nothign to learn from Hoyer, so kyle upped his CJ insertion date and game 6, midway thru it, he pulls hoyer.

So those who are so certain we are picking in the top 5 this yr, you are in for a surprise. Because kyle is going to do anything he can to get as many Ws as he can. Forget the top 5 pick. He is gunning for winning every single game we get in. Now, that may not mean a bunch of wins, but we aren't losing on out either. I took the over of 4.5 Ws and with hoyer in, that looked like a lead plated loser. Now we shall see. But for you tankers out there, fuggedaboudit. Isn't happening. Kyle is going for the gold, and regardless of how many or how few...he is going to try and win them all. With CJ, that is a lot more likely than with Hoyer. Hoyer probably could have made it. But that is now off the table and kyle is gunning for Ws...not Ls...he has been humiliated to date, and that is about to change.

Impossible to create a "Winning Culture" if you never win any games.

Originally posted by jcs:
Impossible to create a "Winning Culture" if you never win any games.

this times infinity, how come people can not understand that.. do they think a 0-16 team no matter how we do in the victory bowl at the end of the year will attract players. you are what your record is.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by jcs:

Impossible to create a "Winning Culture" if you never win any games.

this times infinity, how come people can not understand that.. do they think a 0-16 team no matter how we do in the victory bowl at the end of the year will attract players. you are what your record is.

Spot on jcs, and right on cc. That is no guarantee how many we win, but it IS a guarantee of how hard kyle tries to win 'em all. He NEVER was in it to get a top 5 draft pick. NEVER.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Earlier in the season, there was lots of talk about tanking....soft tank, hard tank, whatever tank so we get top 2-5 pick in draft. Then with 0-2, 0-4, and now 0-6, some fans were well on their way. But if anyone thinks kyle and lynch are taking this laying down, they are grossly mistaken. They want each and every win they can squeeze out fo the game. They are NOT tanking, especially kyle. All you had to do was look at him on the sideline last Sunday to see a guy tormented by this team's play...ok, his QBs play. Then the yank and in comes CJ. I take kyle at his word of wanting DJ on the clipboard all yr, learning by watching. Unfortunately, there was nothign to learn from Hoyer, so kyle upped his CJ insertion date and game 6, midway thru it, he pulls hoyer.

So those who are so certain we are picking in the top 5 this yr, you are in for a surprise. Because kyle is going to do anything he can to get as many Ws as he can. Forget the top 5 pick. He is gunning for winning every single game we get in. Now, that may not mean a bunch of wins, but we aren't losing on out either. I took the over of 4.5 Ws and with hoyer in, that looked like a lead plated loser. Now we shall see. But for you tankers out there, fuggedaboudit. Isn't happening. Kyle is going for the gold, and regardless of how many or how few...he is going to try and win them all. With CJ, that is a lot more likely than with Hoyer. Hoyer probably could have made it. But that is now off the table and kyle is gunning for Ws...not Ls...he has been humiliated to date, and that is about to change.

Impossible to create a "Winning Culture" if you never win any games.

So he only gets 1 quarter of the season to create this "Winning Culture"?

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Spot on jcs, and right on cc. That is no guarantee how many we win, but it IS a guarantee of how hard kyle tries to win 'em all. He NEVER was in it to get a top 5 draft pick. NEVER.

our moron dc went soft vs the cards in over time and i hold him totally to blame for that loss. just like the super bowl. the coaches are supposed to put our players in the best possible place to win games. i know some feel like we just need better players on defense and of course we do..... but if they did bring in a new dc it would not be a tragic thing for our team

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by mojave45:

That's some funny, and insane stuff right there. No HC worth a crap gives a rats ass about what a bunch of self important armchair amateurs has to say on a fan forum.

Tits Kelly and Dumsula could learn a thing or two... Where are they now?

Baalke could have learned a thing or two from Sus.

thanks P.

one love

I don't think anybody is calling for the dismissal of KS yet.... they still need to burn another year off that contract before it can be considered... they simply can't eat 5 years.... but KS has to show the ability to develop Beathard.... the Hoyer experience has been a major disappointment and black mark on KS.... we need to know that he can mentor a young QB, or we're going to be stuck with overpaying for Cousins, which will be a franchise ruining mistake.... 10 games to prove himself.

Originally posted by Follower:

I don't think anybody is calling for the dismissal of KS yet.... they still need to burn another year off that contract before it can be considered... they simply can't eat 5 years.... but KS has to show the ability to develop Beathard.... the Hoyer experience has been a major disappointment and black mark on KS.... we need to know that he can mentor a young QB, or we're going to be stuck with overpaying for Cousins, which will be a franchise ruining mistake.... 10 games to prove himself.

Youre jumping the gun a lil too much there my dude lol.

Originally posted by Follower:

I don't think anybody is calling for the dismissal of KS yet.... they still need to burn another year off that contract before it can be considered... they simply can't eat 5 years.... but KS has to show the ability to develop Beathard.... the Hoyer experience has been a major disappointment and black mark on KS.... we need to know that he can mentor a young QB, or we're going to be stuck with overpaying for Cousins, which will be a franchise ruining mistake.... 10 games to prove himself.

When has Paraag negotiated any franchise ruining contract?

Originally posted by Follower:

I don't think anybody is calling for the dismissal of KS yet.... they still need to burn another year off that contract before it can be considered... they simply can't eat 5 years.... but KS has to show the ability to develop Beathard.... the Hoyer experience has been a major disappointment and black mark on KS.... we need to know that he can mentor a young QB, or we're going to be stuck with overpaying for Cousins, which will be a franchise ruining mistake.... 10 games to prove himself.

Calling for dismissal of Kyle? Unhhh....why exactly would someone even think about that? Because last time i looked, kyle took over a garbage bin of used, failed , awful players and he and lynch had to get rid of 32 of them just to keep the place from smelling like a sewer. This was the most inept, poorly qualified , talent-less team i have ever seen...and i mean in the NFL, not just SF. Kyle's job to start with was to get some talent...hell, any talent on the field. We had NOTHING. NOTHING. And first thing you think of is "nobody is thinking of Kyle's dismissal yet? Wow, watch some football, bubba. It is nigh on impossible to coach guys wiht zippo, zero talent. And that is all that kyle had. Gagbert and kap? Nothing at QB. No WRs. NONE. No FB. Maybe half of one TE. And then the OL...beadles, kilgore, Theus, et al. UGLY. We do have two fine OTs. But that 's it on O. Okay, we did have Carlos.

On D, we had...umm...DeFo. LBs...washed up or injured or both. No ohter help on DL except AA and he was ill suited to 4-3. CBs? There's a joke. Safeties...Reid? Ha, there's another joke. CBs?Nope, nothing there either. So how, just exactly how is kyle supposed to conjure up Ws with that motley, moldy crew? Well, you start with a bull dozer and go thru the middle of the team. Get rid of 2/3 of the players, and bring in new. Who knows if they are good or not. But now, after FA, Draft, trades, at least kyle has Buck, Solly, Reuben (hopefully Sunday), Dontae, Ward, DJones, mithchell, Dooms, but all the rest is adios. So Kyle's first job was to obtain talent, not coach it. Adding Garcon, Kittle, TT helped....Au Jus...helped. Hyde has been a big contributor. Trenton coming around has been huge. Staley is still top 10 OT. And of course, now we have CJ...Those he can coach. It is the other 12-14 players we don't have that are hard to coach. So let's not start on Kyle's dismissal or even thinking about it. Let him get his potential FR QB surprise pick some games in his knapsack. Let's see what kyle can do with a potentially very gifted Qb, unheralded as all get out. Then, this time 3-4 yrs down the road, you can talk about "Kyle's dismissal"

To do that now? That would be just downright goofy. Oh, wasn't there a 6 yr contract in there somewhere, also? For a change, the owner's son took a long range view of things and if you htink they are talking about or even considering, "Kyles' dismissal," you are dead wrong.

Originally posted by Follower:
I don't think anybody is calling for the dismissal of KS yet.... they still need to burn another year off that contract before it can be considered... they simply can't eat 5 years.... but KS has to show the ability to develop Beathard.... the Hoyer experience has been a major disappointment and black mark on KS.... we need to know that he can mentor a young QB, or we're going to be stuck with overpaying for Cousins, which will be a franchise ruining mistake.... 10 games to prove himself.

You know, there is a reason why he got a 6 year contract right? But he only has 10 games left to prove himself?



You're funny dude!

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Earlier in the season, there was lots of talk about tanking....soft tank, hard tank, whatever tank so we get top 2-5 pick in draft. Then with 0-2, 0-4, and now 0-6, some fans were well on their way. But if anyone thinks kyle and lynch are taking this laying down, they are grossly mistaken. They want each and every win they can squeeze out fo the game. They are NOT tanking, especially kyle. All you had to do was look at him on the sideline last Sunday to see a guy tormented by this team's play...ok, his QBs play. Then the yank and in comes CJ. I take kyle at his word of wanting DJ on the clipboard all yr, learning by watching. Unfortunately, there was nothign to learn from Hoyer, so kyle upped his CJ insertion date and game 6, midway thru it, he pulls hoyer.

So those who are so certain we are picking in the top 5 this yr, you are in for a surprise. Because kyle is going to do anything he can to get as many Ws as he can. Forget the top 5 pick. He is gunning for winning every single game we get in. Now, that may not mean a bunch of wins, but we aren't losing on out either. I took the over of 4.5 Ws and with hoyer in, that looked like a lead plated loser. Now we shall see. But for you tankers out there, fuggedaboudit. Isn't happening. Kyle is going for the gold, and regardless of how many or how few...he is going to try and win them all. With CJ, that is a lot more likely than with Hoyer. Hoyer probably could have made it. But that is now off the table and kyle is gunning for Ws...not Ls...he has been humiliated to date, and that is about to change.

Impossible to create a "Winning Culture" if you never win any games.

So he only gets 1 quarter of the season to create this "Winning Culture"?

Did I say that?

Originally posted by mojave45:

That's some funny, and insane stuff right there. No HC worth a crap gives a rats ass about what a bunch of self important armchair amateurs has to say on a fan forum.

With the way Jed turns on his hires it wouldn't surprise me if he's a Zoner.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Earlier in the season, there was lots of talk about tanking....soft tank, hard tank, whatever tank so we get top 2-5 pick in draft. Then with 0-2, 0-4, and now 0-6, some fans were well on their way. But if anyone thinks kyle and lynch are taking this laying down, they are grossly mistaken. They want each and every win they can squeeze out fo the game. They are NOT tanking, especially kyle. All you had to do was look at him on the sideline last Sunday to see a guy tormented by this team's play...ok, his QBs play. Then the yank and in comes CJ. I take kyle at his word of wanting DJ on the clipboard all yr, learning by watching. Unfortunately, there was nothign to learn from Hoyer, so kyle upped his CJ insertion date and game 6, midway thru it, he pulls hoyer.

So those who are so certain we are picking in the top 5 this yr, you are in for a surprise. Because kyle is going to do anything he can to get as many Ws as he can. Forget the top 5 pick. He is gunning for winning every single game we get in. Now, that may not mean a bunch of wins, but we aren't losing on out either. I took the over of 4.5 Ws and with hoyer in, that looked like a lead plated loser. Now we shall see. But for you tankers out there, fuggedaboudit. Isn't happening. Kyle is going for the gold, and regardless of how many or how few...he is going to try and win them all. With CJ, that is a lot more likely than with Hoyer. Hoyer probably could have made it. But that is now off the table and kyle is gunning for Ws...not Ls...he has been humiliated to date, and that is about to change.

Impossible to create a "Winning Culture" if you never win any games.

So he only gets 1 quarter of the season to create this "Winning Culture"?

Did I say that?

No you didn't say that, just asking you that question.

I'm liking this! Welcome back WCO.

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