49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 9moon:
I'm not THAT upset about the Trey Lance trade, but the Brick After Brick Brothers decision has been nothing but COMEDY...

NO to Brady
NO to Stafford

Trading 2 extra first rounders for Lance then giving up on the kid basically after 1 year. These are just the basic examples of why both must go..

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9moon:
SO, u don't think he should go ?

I know this much, he BEST win, and win with the QBs we have now..

Nobody with a functional brain thinks he should go.

There's two groups who even flirt with the idea:
- The first acts as if this is the DeBartolo Niners and it's the 1980-90's still when it was an uncapped league and the franchise was ahead of the curve (mainly with a cutting edge offense) and one of the biggest spenders. Super Bowl wins are basically an entitlement to this group.
- People who are upset about Trey Lance.

I'm not THAT upset about the Trey Lance trade, but the Brick After Brick Brothers decision has been nothing but COMEDY...

NO to Brady
NO to Stafford

Trading 2 extra first rounders for Lance then giving up on the kid basically after 1 year. These are just the basic examples of why both must go..

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
There haven't been coaches fired for less though. He is coming off a 13 win season.

I just showed you one who won a SB and went to multiple playoffs in 5 yrs. Canned. Schottenheimer went 14-2 the yr he got fired. Dugey got fired after going 30-18 his last 3 yrs in TB. Made the playoffs all 3 yrs and 4 of the 6 seasons, with only one losing season (year 1).

• Kyle doesnt have to worry about losing a power struggle to his GM about which players to play because he has final say in everything.
• Jed doesnt meddle like Dean Spanos does. Marty couldn't wait to be shown the door.

Originally posted by boast:
ehhh. missing a lot of context for the real reasons Pederson and Schotty were fired.

• Kyle doesnt have to worry about losing a power struggle to his GM about which players to play because he has final say in everything.
• Jed doesnt meddle like Dean Spanos does. Marty couldn't wait to be shown the door.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9moon:
SO, u don't think he should go ?

I know this much, he BEST win, and win with the QBs we have now..

Nobody with a functional brain thinks he should go.

There's two groups who even flirt with the idea:
- The first acts as if this is the DeBartolo Niners and it's the 1980-90's still when it was an uncapped league and the franchise was ahead of the curve (mainly with a cutting edge offense) and one of the biggest spenders. Super Bowl wins are basically an entitlement to this group.
- People who are upset about Trey Lance.

I'm not THAT upset about the Trey Lance trade, but the Brick After Brick Brothers decision has been nothing but COMEDY...

NO to Brady
NO to Stafford

Trading 2 extra first rounders for Lance then giving up on the kid basically after 1 year. These are just the basic examples of why both must go..

If we were a last place team and not close to being competitive, then you might have a point. But we're not and you don't

To dismantle something when it's not broken, is not going to fix anything

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:
ehhh. missing a lot of context for the real reasons Pederson and Schotty were fired.

• Kyle doesnt have to worry about losing a power struggle to his GM about which players to play because he has final say in everything.
• Jed doesnt meddle like Dean Spanos does. Marty couldn't wait to be shown the door.

They fired Schottenheimer cuz he couldn't win in the playoffs, and hired Norv Turner, a guy who can't win in the regular season. It was an all time classic move.

Originally posted by 9moon:
NORV, just like Kyle was always attractive because of his ability to design play... and just like Kyle, he's nothing more than a very very good OC..

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9moon:
NORV, just like Kyle was always attractive because of his ability to design play... and just like Kyle, he's nothing more than a very very good OC..

Unlike Norv (at least the Chargers version), Kyle took over a bottom level roster and has turned them into a perennial Super Bowl contender.

Norv took over arguably the most well rounded roster in the NFL at the time and mostly underachieved over his tenure, though they did have two AFC title appearances in his first 3 years before dropping off into .500 oblivion.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It took some pretty interesting maneuvering to turn a draft of LaDainian Tomlinson round 1, Drew Brees round 2, into zero SB appearances.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9moon:
NORV, just like Kyle was always attractive because of his ability to design play... and just like Kyle, he's nothing more than a very very good OC..

Unlike Norv (at least the Chargers version), Kyle took over a bottom level roster and has turned them into a perennial Super Bowl contender.

Norv took over arguably the most well rounded roster in the NFL at the time and mostly underachieved over his tenure, though they did have two AFC title appearances in his first 3 years before dropping off into .500 oblivion.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:
ehhh. missing a lot of context for the real reasons Pederson and Schotty were fired.

• Kyle doesnt have to worry about losing a power struggle to his GM about which players to play because he has final say in everything.
• Jed doesnt meddle like Dean Spanos does. Marty couldn't wait to be shown the door.

They fired Schottenheimer cuz he couldn't win in the playoffs, and hired Norv Turner, a guy who can't win in the regular season. It was an all time classic move.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It took some pretty interesting maneuvering to turn a draft of LaDainian Tomlinson round 1, Drew Brees round 2, into zero SB appearances.

That's the Spanos ownership for you.

Likely still get there and get a ring if Marlon McCree holds onto the football in the 06 divisional round.

Originally posted by 9moon:
... AND tell me how Kyle did in his Super Bowl experiences and NFCCG ??

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I covered this in earlier posts. We're not entitled to win the Super Bowl. Super Bowl or bust is an outdated cliche that dates back to an era of football 30 years past and an ownership and league that doesn't exist anymore.

You win SB's by contending for them. Kyle hasn't been solely responsible for the failure to secure a title and is arguably the primary reason we're in position to win one.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
My one KS critique is as good as he is with the playsheet, he can call games tight with his decision making. Like the Juice up the gut, then punt in plus territory sequence in the NFCCG. We had a bot in real time telling us, that KS was lowering our win odds as it was happening. He should lean more into the analytics imo. Especially with this talent we have now. Rather see CMC, BA, Kittle out there on 4th down than Moody, or Wish. Plus territory punts should be abolished imo. Punts are voluntary turnovers.