49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Yet, Jimmy bit his pride and stayed with the Niners as a backup to Lance when his trade value was close to nil. The only thing weird was Brock Purdy came in cold as rookie 7th round and played better than both of them lol

I think a lot of folks are going to be surprised this season at how Brock and Kyle have done the Vulcan mind meld in terms of the offensive scheme. Brock is the perfect QB for Kyle. All the motions and formations tip the defenses hand to Brock and if Brock knows where to go, with his processor (which only gets better with time), Brock should just get better and better.

If we carry more than three tight ends on the 53 man roster, I'm betting the main reason is because of Brock, and how Kyle wants to change the offense to suit Brock's talents. When the TE motions, it gives the defensive coverage away, so how about two of them moving around. Its going to be a headache for defenses.

Don't know how true it is but John Chapman stated the other day on his 53 man roster prediction video that the 49ers keep 4 TE's every year.

My past recollection has been 3, but now with Purdy saying he likes to throw to TEs, I'm paying much more attention to the position this year. Specially if the two tight end set can help protect Brock better than the 11 personnel can.

Just go here and filter by the September rosters: https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/SF

So basically its been 3 TE's up until last year when we kept 4.

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Yet, Jimmy bit his pride and stayed with the Niners as a backup to Lance when his trade value was close to nil. The only thing weird was Brock Purdy came in cold as rookie 7th round and played better than both of them lol

I think a lot of folks are going to be surprised this season at how Brock and Kyle have done the Vulcan mind meld in terms of the offensive scheme. Brock is the perfect QB for Kyle. All the motions and formations tip the defenses hand to Brock and if Brock knows where to go, with his processor (which only gets better with time), Brock should just get better and better.

If we carry more than three tight ends on the 53 man roster, I'm betting the main reason is because of Brock, and how Kyle wants to change the offense to suit Brock's talents. When the TE motions, it gives the defensive coverage away, so how about two of them moving around. Its going to be a headache for defenses.

Don't know how true it is but John Chapman stated the other day on his 53 man roster prediction video that the 49ers keep 4 TE's every year.

My past recollection has been 3, but now with Purdy saying he likes to throw to TEs, I'm paying much more attention to the position this year. Specially if the two tight end set can help protect Brock better than the 11 personnel can.

I really enjoyed his connections with Kittle last year.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Yet, Jimmy bit his pride and stayed with the Niners as a backup to Lance when his trade value was close to nil. The only thing weird was Brock Purdy came in cold as rookie 7th round and played better than both of them lol

I think a lot of folks are going to be surprised this season at how Brock and Kyle have done the Vulcan mind meld in terms of the offensive scheme. Brock is the perfect QB for Kyle. All the motions and formations tip the defenses hand to Brock and if Brock knows where to go, with his processor (which only gets better with time), Brock should just get better and better.

If we carry more than three tight ends on the 53 man roster, I'm betting the main reason is because of Brock, and how Kyle wants to change the offense to suit Brock's talents. When the TE motions, it gives the defensive coverage away, so how about two of them moving around. Its going to be a headache for defenses.

Don't know how true it is but John Chapman stated the other day on his 53 man roster prediction video that the 49ers keep 4 TE's every year.

My past recollection has been 3, but now with Purdy saying he likes to throw to TEs, I'm paying much more attention to the position this year. Specially if the two tight end set can help protect Brock better than the 11 personnel can.

I really enjoyed his connections with Kittle last year.

Ya he's fine with Kittle but our other TEs are trash. I worry much more about the depth/talent there than even our OL. We can't depend on any of them if Kittle goes down. I'm annoyed with how poorly we've done with TEs under KS.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Yet, Jimmy bit his pride and stayed with the Niners as a backup to Lance when his trade value was close to nil. The only thing weird was Brock Purdy came in cold as rookie 7th round and played better than both of them lol

I think a lot of folks are going to be surprised this season at how Brock and Kyle have done the Vulcan mind meld in terms of the offensive scheme. Brock is the perfect QB for Kyle. All the motions and formations tip the defenses hand to Brock and if Brock knows where to go, with his processor (which only gets better with time), Brock should just get better and better.

If we carry more than three tight ends on the 53 man roster, I'm betting the main reason is because of Brock, and how Kyle wants to change the offense to suit Brock's talents. When the TE motions, it gives the defensive coverage away, so how about two of them moving around. Its going to be a headache for defenses.

Don't know how true it is but John Chapman stated the other day on his 53 man roster prediction video that the 49ers keep 4 TE's every year.

My past recollection has been 3, but now with Purdy saying he likes to throw to TEs, I'm paying much more attention to the position this year. Specially if the two tight end set can help protect Brock better than the 11 personnel can.

I really enjoyed his connections with Kittle last year.

Ya he's fine with Kittle but our other TEs are trash. I worry much more about the depth/talent there than even our OL. We can't depend on any of them if Kittle goes down. I'm annoyed with how poorly we've done with TEs under KS.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by pdc20:
Kyle is a weirdo as far as the QB position.
The guy thought he could do a season, 16 games, with Brian Hoyer and Matt Barkley.
He didn't want to scout the QBs in 2017 because of Cousins.
He's a hell of a coach and hopefully he stays here for a while but sometimes, he's surprising as far as player evaluations.
He thought Purdy was similar to Mullens. When he said that, I thought that he never saw Purdy play with Iowa State.

Griese and Kubiak are the ones behind drafting Purdy

Obviously Kyle has to agree, but they were his biggest cheerleaders

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by pdc20:
Kyle is a weirdo as far as the QB position.
The guy thought he could do a season, 16 games, with Brian Hoyer and Matt Barkley.
He didn't want to scout the QBs in 2017 because of Cousins.
He's a hell of a coach and hopefully he stays here for a while but sometimes, he's surprising as far as player evaluations.
He thought Purdy was similar to Mullens. When he said that, I thought that he never saw Purdy play with Iowa State.

Griese and Kubiak are the ones behind drafting Purdy

Obviously Kyle has to agree, but they were his biggest cheerleaders

Agree, but I have to credit Kyle for pulling the trigger and making the decision to draft Purdy. He saw enough to do that from what Kubiak and Greise gave him pre-draft.

Having said that, they basically got *lucky* and picked the correct lotto numbers. On Kyle as a QB coach - he's still learning. I love that he's always grown every year that he's been a coach.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Yet, Jimmy bit his pride and stayed with the Niners as a backup to Lance when his trade value was close to nil. The only thing weird was Brock Purdy came in cold as rookie 7th round and played better than both of them lol

I think a lot of folks are going to be surprised this season at how Brock and Kyle have done the Vulcan mind meld in terms of the offensive scheme. Brock is the perfect QB for Kyle. All the motions and formations tip the defenses hand to Brock and if Brock knows where to go, with his processor (which only gets better with time), Brock should just get better and better.

If we carry more than three tight ends on the 53 man roster, I'm betting the main reason is because of Brock, and how Kyle wants to change the offense to suit Brock's talents. When the TE motions, it gives the defensive coverage away, so how about two of them moving around. Its going to be a headache for defenses.

Don't know how true it is but John Chapman stated the other day on his 53 man roster prediction video that the 49ers keep 4 TE's every year.

My past recollection has been 3, but now with Purdy saying he likes to throw to TEs, I'm paying much more attention to the position this year. Specially if the two tight end set can help protect Brock better than the 11 personnel can.

I really enjoyed his connections with Kittle last year.

Ya he's fine with Kittle but our other TEs are trash. I worry much more about the depth/talent there than even our OL. We can't depend on any of them if Kittle goes down. I'm annoyed with how poorly we've done with TEs under KS.

I am not sure we really need a good second TE when we have Juice.

Good to have for sure. But if our 2nd TE is so good that we need to him on the field, then how often is Juice going to be on the field.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Yet, Jimmy bit his pride and stayed with the Niners as a backup to Lance when his trade value was close to nil. The only thing weird was Brock Purdy came in cold as rookie 7th round and played better than both of them lol

I think a lot of folks are going to be surprised this season at how Brock and Kyle have done the Vulcan mind meld in terms of the offensive scheme. Brock is the perfect QB for Kyle. All the motions and formations tip the defenses hand to Brock and if Brock knows where to go, with his processor (which only gets better with time), Brock should just get better and better.

If we carry more than three tight ends on the 53 man roster, I'm betting the main reason is because of Brock, and how Kyle wants to change the offense to suit Brock's talents. When the TE motions, it gives the defensive coverage away, so how about two of them moving around. Its going to be a headache for defenses.

Don't know how true it is but John Chapman stated the other day on his 53 man roster prediction video that the 49ers keep 4 TE's every year.

My past recollection has been 3, but now with Purdy saying he likes to throw to TEs, I'm paying much more attention to the position this year. Specially if the two tight end set can help protect Brock better than the 11 personnel can.

I really enjoyed his connections with Kittle last year.

Ya he's fine with Kittle but our other TEs are trash. I worry much more about the depth/talent there than even our OL. We can't depend on any of them if Kittle goes down. I'm annoyed with how poorly we've done with TEs under KS.

I am not sure we really need a good second TE when we have Juice.

Good to have for sure. But if our 2nd TE is so good that we need to him on the field, then how often is Juice going to be on the field.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Yet, Jimmy bit his pride and stayed with the Niners as a backup to Lance when his trade value was close to nil. The only thing weird was Brock Purdy came in cold as rookie 7th round and played better than both of them lol

I think a lot of folks are going to be surprised this season at how Brock and Kyle have done the Vulcan mind meld in terms of the offensive scheme. Brock is the perfect QB for Kyle. All the motions and formations tip the defenses hand to Brock and if Brock knows where to go, with his processor (which only gets better with time), Brock should just get better and better.

If we carry more than three tight ends on the 53 man roster, I'm betting the main reason is because of Brock, and how Kyle wants to change the offense to suit Brock's talents. When the TE motions, it gives the defensive coverage away, so how about two of them moving around. Its going to be a headache for defenses.

Don't know how true it is but John Chapman stated the other day on his 53 man roster prediction video that the 49ers keep 4 TE's every year.

My past recollection has been 3, but now with Purdy saying he likes to throw to TEs, I'm paying much more attention to the position this year. Specially if the two tight end set can help protect Brock better than the 11 personnel can.

I really enjoyed his connections with Kittle last year.

Ya he's fine with Kittle but our other TEs are trash. I worry much more about the depth/talent there than even our OL. We can't depend on any of them if Kittle goes down. I'm annoyed with how poorly we've done with TEs under KS.

I am not sure we really need a good second TE when we have Juice.

Good to have for sure. But if our 2nd TE is so good that we need to him on the field, then how often is Juice going to be on the field.

Agree on Juice being basically another TE, but he's played more fullback than TE. Again, most teams don't have fullbacks so it's kind of a wash. Colletto was a possible replacement for Juszczyk, so that's kind of a TE pick. Then you have Latu and Braden Willis as two TE picks. So in a sense that's three new TE's they brought in for a redesigned Brock offense.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by pdc20:
Kyle is a weirdo as far as the QB position.
The guy thought he could do a season, 16 games, with Brian Hoyer and Matt Barkley.
He didn't want to scout the QBs in 2017 because of Cousins.
He's a hell of a coach and hopefully he stays here for a while but sometimes, he's surprising as far as player evaluations.
He thought Purdy was similar to Mullens. When he said that, I thought that he never saw Purdy play with Iowa State.

Griese and Kubiak are the ones behind drafting Purdy

Obviously Kyle has to agree, but they were his biggest cheerleaders

Agree, but I have to credit Kyle for pulling the trigger and making the decision to draft Purdy. He saw enough to do that from what Kubiak and Greise gave him pre-draft.

Having said that, they basically got *lucky* and picked the correct lotto numbers. On Kyle as a QB coach - he's still learning. I love that he's always grown every year that he's been a coach.

I mean, it was the last pick in the draft. It's not like Kyle went out on a dangerous limb to draft a guy that his QB coach was advocating for with the last pick.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Yet, Jimmy bit his pride and stayed with the Niners as a backup to Lance when his trade value was close to nil. The only thing weird was Brock Purdy came in cold as rookie 7th round and played better than both of them lol

I think a lot of folks are going to be surprised this season at how Brock and Kyle have done the Vulcan mind meld in terms of the offensive scheme. Brock is the perfect QB for Kyle. All the motions and formations tip the defenses hand to Brock and if Brock knows where to go, with his processor (which only gets better with time), Brock should just get better and better.

If we carry more than three tight ends on the 53 man roster, I'm betting the main reason is because of Brock, and how Kyle wants to change the offense to suit Brock's talents. When the TE motions, it gives the defensive coverage away, so how about two of them moving around. Its going to be a headache for defenses.

Don't know how true it is but John Chapman stated the other day on his 53 man roster prediction video that the 49ers keep 4 TE's every year.

My past recollection has been 3, but now with Purdy saying he likes to throw to TEs, I'm paying much more attention to the position this year. Specially if the two tight end set can help protect Brock better than the 11 personnel can.

I really enjoyed his connections with Kittle last year.

Ya he's fine with Kittle but our other TEs are trash. I worry much more about the depth/talent there than even our OL. We can't depend on any of them if Kittle goes down. I'm annoyed with how poorly we've done with TEs under KS.

I am not sure we really need a good second TE when we have Juice.

Good to have for sure. But if our 2nd TE is so good that we need to him on the field, then how often is Juice going to be on the field.

Agree on Juice being basically another TE, but he's played more fullback than TE. Again, most teams don't have fullbacks so it's kind of a wash. Colletto was a possible replacement for Juszczyk, so that's kind of a TE pick. Then you have Latu and Braden Willis as two TE picks. So in a sense that's three new TE's they brought in for a redesigned Brock offense.

is it really redesigned though ?

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Yet, Jimmy bit his pride and stayed with the Niners as a backup to Lance when his trade value was close to nil. The only thing weird was Brock Purdy came in cold as rookie 7th round and played better than both of them lol

I think a lot of folks are going to be surprised this season at how Brock and Kyle have done the Vulcan mind meld in terms of the offensive scheme. Brock is the perfect QB for Kyle. All the motions and formations tip the defenses hand to Brock and if Brock knows where to go, with his processor (which only gets better with time), Brock should just get better and better.

If we carry more than three tight ends on the 53 man roster, I'm betting the main reason is because of Brock, and how Kyle wants to change the offense to suit Brock's talents. When the TE motions, it gives the defensive coverage away, so how about two of them moving around. Its going to be a headache for defenses.

Don't know how true it is but John Chapman stated the other day on his 53 man roster prediction video that the 49ers keep 4 TE's every year.

My past recollection has been 3, but now with Purdy saying he likes to throw to TEs, I'm paying much more attention to the position this year. Specially if the two tight end set can help protect Brock better than the 11 personnel can.

I really enjoyed his connections with Kittle last year.

Ya he's fine with Kittle but our other TEs are trash. I worry much more about the depth/talent there than even our OL. We can't depend on any of them if Kittle goes down. I'm annoyed with how poorly we've done with TEs under KS.

I am not sure we really need a good second TE when we have Juice.

Good to have for sure. But if our 2nd TE is so good that we need to him on the field, then how often is Juice going to be on the field.

Agree on Juice being basically another TE, but he's played more fullback than TE. Again, most teams don't have fullbacks so it's kind of a wash. Colletto was a possible replacement for Juszczyk, so that's kind of a TE pick. Then you have Latu and Braden Willis as two TE picks. So in a sense that's three new TE's they brought in for a redesigned Brock offense.

is it really redesigned though ?

I saw the run oriented tweaks in the Chargers game. I saw some two TE sets. With Mason running it - that offense looked unstoppable. Either that or Chargers second stringers suck at stopping the up the gut runs.

Originally posted by captveg:
I think it's pretty obvious at this point that Shanahan has trouble evaluating QBs from afar, but when they are on his roster he has a real solid grasp on what those QBs are likely to accomplish.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by captveg:
I think it's pretty obvious at this point that Shanahan has trouble evaluating QBs from afar, but when they are on his roster he has a real solid grasp on what those QBs are likely to accomplish.

Are there coaches that evaluate QBs better from afar and worse when the QB is on the roster?